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Author Topic: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter  (Read 56239 times)

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #105 on: October 23, 2020, 07:59:24 PM »
I have new rotors to test with the drill, the contact strips that I have used is one, two in the shape of a cross (four contacts per revolution), I am going to make one with eight contacts per revolution, I am also going to get a solid core, and see the difference of induction. I think all that will improve

Thank you  synchro1 for your information, let's keep working and building with the contributions that each one inform

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #106 on: October 23, 2020, 09:23:36 PM »
The drill that I am using is like one of these at the lowest speed, I adjust the discs that I build and adapt to the shaft


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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #107 on: October 23, 2020, 09:43:24 PM »
Suspend a magnetic object by a rubber band over the top and see if you can get it to attract and jump while stretching with the power pulse.

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #107 on: October 23, 2020, 09:43:24 PM »
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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #108 on: October 24, 2020, 12:02:56 AM »
Suspend a magnetic object by a rubber band over the top and see if you can get it to attract and jump while stretching with the power pulse.

OK good as soon as I can I do it to see the effect of magnetism

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #109 on: October 24, 2020, 06:54:29 AM »
Okay. Continuing with the work, I built or assembled another rotor with 8 strips of transformer plates, balanced them on a plastic cover, and then fastened it to the drill, as you can see in the image.

Apply 24 volts to the coil. and I have configured the 12 volt car light with a diode to take advantage of the energy from the back fem.

By rotating the disk with the drill, I manually make contact with the wires in the contact bars, and the light starts to turn on, with this rotor with more blades, I further improve the brightness of the light, and the consumption of the coil. It is variable.

What I observe that sometimes there is very good brightness and speed of the disk and current consumption about 1.5 amp, but it also happens that sometimes I do not have much speed (due to greater pressure that I make on the contacts), and I get very good brightness and low current draw 0.9 to .06 amp more or less. it means that you have to find the right pulse or operating frequency, just like Art Porter did.

Then change the source for another 24 volt but higher amperage, in vacuum gave 33 volts, and with this source I get more lighting, I have not tested the circuit with battery, but I will.

With this new source when the bulb had good lighting, the voltage dropped to 25 volts and amperage from 1.5 to 0.5 amps, and as I said it is variable because sometimes it has very good brightness and low consumption.

I will continue with changes, I am going to change the core rods and put a solid core on the coil, I ask you friends, will it improve the induction, I think so, I await your comments.

I'm going to buy a relay, I'm going to see how to make a signal generator.
 
What I have done is move forward, so that I can create the Art Porter prototype with its recommendations and characteristics, if it worked for Mr. Art Porter, it should also work for us.Thank you soonModify message

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #110 on: October 24, 2020, 03:12:18 PM »
P channel Mosfet: This voltage gate controlled Field effect Transistor as a switch is much more sensitive then the current gate transistor. The proximity of the ground to the gate is a field effect that triggers the switch with no contact at very high frequency. This transistor will amplify the output a thousand times!


Fish for a flutter area in adjacency of the coil. Maybe a spacer between the magnet and coil will open an area that picks the field oscillation up. You only need a tiny area to self oscillate the coil at high frequency.

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #111 on: October 24, 2020, 03:41:06 PM »
The load is between the ground and P channel MOSFET on the right; This is the correct configuration.

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #112 on: October 25, 2020, 03:02:00 AM »
Thanks for the scheme  synchro1

Returning to work, the core of the coil with which I was working were welding rods, I replaced it with a solid core, to see what changes would occur, perhaps increase the induction a little more.

A test that made the voltage increased more, to 60 volts, and the back fem force increased, as well as the consumption, it was to be expected, well that is normal, more voltage, more induction, but also more consumption, I wondered there is not the via, because it is about achieving more induction with less consumption.

Well, to test the prototype with a relay, I bought a 24-volt car, in order to activate it I used a dc motor speed control.

Testing a spotlight first to see flicker when you control it with cruise control.

Already connected with the coil and with the relay and speed control, and a bulb with a rectifier to take advantage of the induction of the back fem, the circuit came into operation, the brightness of the bulb was not what was expected, it was low, and the consumption high Around 2.3 amps, and increasing the control frequency did not get better results.

It must be taken into account that the frequency of the speed control and its waveform is not the most suitable, for this device, nor the car relay is also not the most suitable. but I wanted to try with a relay and with a signal, and that's what I could get for now.

It is seen how the shape of the signal and the frequency are important to improve the induction of this Art Porter device.

I did a test with the magnets in attraction, to see what happened, and the result was the induction was not adequate, the focus had a minimum light, with which it can be deduced that the opposition of the NN poles gives us a better contribution to induction back fem.

The strength of the neodymium magnets is tremendous when I was placing them on the coil, they get together and catch my fingers, which hurts me, I'm fine, but you have to be very careful.

With what I did today, I can conclude that you have to have the right relay, the right signal generator.

Although, on the other hand, I have obtained the best result using my 8-strip contact disc, I am going to improve that rotor, I believe that you can have good results already with the rotor well done with copper plates, with contact carbons, etc.

Tomorrow I'm going to try another coil, it has more turns and a thicker core, I'll see what improvements I can get.

Little by little I am learning more and experimenting more, I am also going to start acquiring the pieces of Mr. Art Porter's project, 3 "x 1/2" magnets, wire? , the dayton 5x852 relay, the most expensive is the 2601 control.

I appreciate your information and comments, as well as your contributions.

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #113 on: October 25, 2020, 03:12:03 AM »
Just an FYI
Aaron Murakami did an interview with Paul Babcock and Paul gave a very simple recipe for an effective core material:
https://youtu.be/WXMWvloZBgQ?t=1045

Aaron made a video documenting the core build process: https://youtu.be/kpHEyzvc4dY

Paul is a Flyback guy (back emf), and so anyone experimenting as such should find Paul's teachings to be helpful.

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #113 on: October 25, 2020, 03:12:03 AM »
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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #114 on: October 25, 2020, 03:56:48 AM »
Thanks, I already saw the first video, and if your experiments are very interesting and important, it guides us, when you comment when the power is cut, the collapsed field provides a very fast induction high voltage and little current, and shows us how He found a solution and how to use the back emf.

Just a question where is the engine you mentioned can be built, are there replicas?

I will continue watching the following videos, thank you.

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #115 on: October 25, 2020, 04:22:53 AM »
Just a question where is the engine you mentioned can be built, are there replicas?

Was that question for me?
What engine?

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #115 on: October 25, 2020, 04:22:53 AM »
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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #116 on: October 25, 2020, 05:50:14 AM »
It is for those who have information about Mr. Paul Babcock's project

Something practical and prototype or a replica

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #117 on: October 25, 2020, 10:32:51 AM »

Look at the Homemade Reed Switch in this video. One wire wrapped around an iron nail! (Collecting Backspike).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EThAfZ07YU

Connecting one side of this spring wire Reed Switch to the ground and the other to the MOSFET gate would trigger the transister at proximity with no current passing between the electrodes.


All you need to do is fish for a position near the coil where the switch moves just a tiny bit; Much less flutter then you would need to run the contact switch with current!

A regular (Magnetic) Reed Switch coupled with a transistor or a Hall effect transistor combination would also furnish the coil with the oscillation; However, the MOSFET gate (ground voltage) sensitivity can't be beat!

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #118 on: October 25, 2020, 11:47:37 AM »
Let me try and reemphasize the central point:

The neutralization pulse needs to trigger on the tail end of the field implosion; Not the high side!

That's why the P channel MOSFET with the ground retraction feature on the switch is needed! It tucks the pulse in.

This works just the opposite from a normal Magnetic Reed switch or Hall effect transistor where the high field strength does the trigger work.

The P switch delivers a retarded pulse phase that increases the BEMF window. I think the P option applies to the other switchs too. You have no way to control the pulse timing with your Dremal! The coil needs off time for output. The destination reverses and becomes the source. There can be no input while the coil is outputting power as the source. The only BEMF output available from the coil is inside the off time frame you allow the coil to output power as source. You are fighting the output.

The coil needs to be off more then on to generate BEMF power!

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #119 on: October 25, 2020, 02:47:02 PM »
A Reed Switch (Ground to Gate) P channel MOSFET and Relay:

 

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