Author Topic: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter (Read 79523 times)

ramset · « **Reply #75 on:** June 22, 2017, 02:57:59 PM »

KehYo77

Sometime late last year a team went to help qualify Art's claim
there was an error found in the Duty cycle application [from the scope] to the output measurement.

pleas do not take my word for this
ask Art ,he is a good and honest fellow who sincerely believes in this quest.

respectfully
Chet
PS
I am having extreme difficulty reading and writing ATM [eye surgery issues]
I will not be available to discuss this here .

alextecmen · « **Reply #76 on:** October 16, 2020, 06:19:54 AM »

Greetings
It has been a long time since any advance of this engine has been written, or replicates that they have been realized.

I would like to know if anyone knows how this coil is built:
1.- what gauge of wire is used in its construction
2.- how many turns of wire does it have

I would appreciate if someone can inform
see you soon

kolbacict · « **Reply #77 on:** October 16, 2020, 09:27:17 AM »

Where does energy go from hysteresis losses? Into the warmth?

synchro1 · « **Reply #78 on:** October 16, 2020, 03:19:11 PM »

@Alextecmen,

It's all good! Art's coil looks around 30 gauge. (28-32)

Every magnet core coil shares the same features regardless of the copper wire gauge or number of turns:

The magnet reduces the coil's inductance. This allows the coil to switch on and off at a higher frequency. This causes the coil to draw more power and consequently raises the level of recoverable backspike.

Art Porter found that the ratio of magnet strength and coil inductance (Wire gauge and number of turns), and the frequency and strength of his A.C. input resulted in OU COP's of BEMF.

Anything will work depending on how you phase power to it. Ring frequency is the only factor that matters.

synchro1 · « **Reply #79 on:** October 16, 2020, 06:13:13 PM »

The amplitude of the AC input needs tp power the coil to an equal gauss of the magnet. The frequency of current reversal, timed to coincide with the Lenz reversal of the coil.

The coil inductance measured with the magnet inside the coil core will yield the correct SRF with the standard equation:

alextecmen · « **Reply #80 on:** October 17, 2020, 02:53:27 AM »

Quote from: synchro1 on October 16, 2020, 06:13:13 PM

The amplitude of the AC input needs tp power the coil to an equal gauss of the magnet. The frequency of current reversal, timed to coincide with the Lenz reversal of the coil.

The coil inductance measured with the magnet inside the coil core will yield the correct SRF with the standard equation:

OK, thank you, I found this information from

it is from another coil a little less long
will serve as orientation

lancaIV · « **Reply #81 on:** October 17, 2020, 03:24:40 AM »

What does the experimenter expect from this coil arrangement ?

Does he/she knows Keith Kenyons em-concept ?
The Angus-Motor ?
The Flynn Bros. magnetic coil arrangement, force amplifying/neutralizing ?!

Thomas Townsend Brown GB application his up to 1 Mio. times force out/eWatt in capacitive winding drive ?

Sanshiro Ogino s * basic factor * and effect ?
For higher mmf output = higher frequencies = higher RPM

Tesla Inc. cars with nominal 18000 (eight-ten thousands) RPM e-drives equipped

Based by T.T.Brown,Plauson,Imris : 2500 W continous force out/25 eWatt in possible ( as prototype realized )

It does not change much !
Sincerely

alextecmen · « **Reply #82 on:** October 17, 2020, 04:41:00 AM »

Here we have other data of the constructor
you look at your measurements, they seem pretty good to me.
But you have to experiment if this type of coil can really provide very good energy gain results.
Here are two questions, I can believe and I cannot believe
The tests and data that any source provide us must be validated, the safest way is to carry out the prototypes and test their operation.
Nothing costs to verify experimentally, if so desired, or required, everything according to our scope and possibilities

synchro1 · « **Reply #83 on:** October 17, 2020, 05:22:09 PM »

Art Porter's coil is designed to have an SRF of 60 cycles per second so he can run his 1500 watt lamp directly from the coil with no full wave bridge rectifier.

alextecmen · « **Reply #84 on:** October 18, 2020, 03:48:51 AM »

The control used by Art Porter is very expensive, it has a very high price.
There is one that knows a cheaper one and that can fulfill the same function of activating the relays.

Or if there is a scheme to build a simple control to activate the two relays. and at what frequency you have to operate them.

Thank you all for your comments and contributions

alextecmen · « **Reply #85 on:** October 19, 2020, 12:17:04 AM »

This is the way of working of the activation of the relays.

Cycle Description:
Step 1. Relay 1 is energized for 30 milliseconds.
Step 2. Relay 1 is de-energized for 10 milliseconds.
Step 3. Relay 2 is energized for 30 milliseconds.
Step 4. Relay 2 is de-energized for 10 milliseconds.
Returns to Step one and repeats as required.

This is the way of working of the activation of the relays.

24 VDC relay Dayton 5YP80

alextecmen · « **Reply #86 on:** October 19, 2020, 08:50:23 PM »

greetings to all

Continuing with this project and experimenting
I have 2 "x 0.7" magnets to test
I am going to carry out the project of the coil without movement, without moving parts, initially I am going to test with a coil that I have from a Bedini motor
So I will try different coils, any suggestions or comments welcome

alextecmen · « **Reply #87 on:** October 20, 2020, 02:35:04 AM »

Well I used the two opposite magnets in polarity with the coil, I fastened it with tape, or I was surprised to give it 24 v voltage, the top magnet shot out, with the luck that it did not hurt me and it was attached to a metal plate, I trust it is so strong momentum.
The coil applying the 24 volts consumes 3 amps, I am going to hold the magnets well to prevent it from flying off, I want to see how much energy I can have from the recoil of the cut of the emf.

I wanted to show you images but the page does not let me upload them, how much can I show them

alextecmen · « **Reply #88 on:** October 20, 2020, 05:02:01 AM »

I already tested the coil with opposing magnets, that is to say in the between the coil with equal polarity, the coil the core I have is a welding rod, when I put the magnets opposite to the coil core, the two were slightly attracted by core, I don't have the core that Mr Porter uses.
I held the magnets well to the coil so that they did not fly away, I applied 24 volts to it, manually, that is, I connect and disconnect the cable freely.
I put a car bulb, 1.5 amperes in series with a rectifier to use the recoil of the emf, but it did not turn on the bulb, then I put a 12 volt led bulb, and it turned on very bright when I cut the power, there it was back fem was present.

I'm going to have to get the nucleus that Art Porter proposes.
What if the great repulsion and force of the rejection of the magnets is present.

I was left with the desire to obtain energy and to turn on the car bulb, and it did not turn it on, only the 12 volt led

De que material propone Art Porter para el nucleo de la bobina?

synchro1 · « **Reply #89 on:** October 20, 2020, 01:47:55 PM »

@alextecman;

Quote from you:

"I wanted to show you images but the page does not let me upload them, how much can I show them".

Do you know the procedure to capture a screen shot? What kind of operating system are you using Mac or Windows.

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