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Author Topic: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter  (Read 61170 times)

Offline synchro1

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #120 on: October 25, 2020, 05:48:20 PM »

Gotoluc drives the ignition coil with a spark from a gator clip on a Neo magnet sphere. You can drive your magnet coil simply by jumping a spark off one of the magnets like Gotoluc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_3OkDvmp_Y

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #121 on: October 25, 2020, 07:52:10 PM »
@alextechmen You should use a $2 arduino nano instead of this expensive controller.

The control used by Art Porter is very expensive, it has a very high price.
There is one that knows a cheaper one and that can fulfill the same function of activating the relays.

Or if there is a scheme to build a simple control to activate the two relays. and at what frequency you have to operate them.

Thank you all for your comments and contributions

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #122 on: October 26, 2020, 06:30:15 AM »

The P switch delivers a retarded pulse phase that increases the BEMF window. I think the P option applies to the other switchs too. You have no way to control the pulse timing with your Dremal! The coil needs off time for output. The destination reverses and becomes the source. There can be no input while the coil is outputting power as the source. The only BEMF output available from the coil is inside the off time frame you allow the coil to output power as source. You are fighting the output.

The coil needs to be off more then on to generate BEMF power!


Agree, with my controller I am aware that it is not optimal as I mentioned, of course the field has to be interrupted, cut the current, and let the BEMF generate.

Mr. Art Porter mentions that the wave turn on should be 30 milliseconds, and the turn off 10 milliseconds, which gives about 25 hz, if I'm wrong, correct me.

In the test with the 8-strip machined rotor, when the connectors were pressed more and the speed of the disk slowed down, he got a good result, because, because it gave him more time to energize the coil and also gave him time to the quenching and induction of BEMF.

Let's do a test, I already did it, for example I make contact and energize the coil and hold for about 5 or 10 seconds, we have the magnetic field in the coil well formed, then I disconnect, I would expect the required induction to be generated, that the test bulb It will light up very well, but no, the bulb or a little lighting, no brightness, but because if I have a good field that was formed, and when it collapses it must induce very well.

Now let's continue with another test, I manually connect and disconnect the contacts quickly, now if I get a few flashes of light,
which indicates that you have to have a frequency and duty cycle in order to obtain the best BEMF induction, and of course not fight against the on and off cycle.

What I comment above is already known to all of you, most of you.

little by little I am going to incorporate the most optimal devices

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #122 on: October 26, 2020, 06:30:15 AM »
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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #123 on: October 26, 2020, 06:35:36 AM »
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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #124 on: October 26, 2020, 06:42:37 AM »
@alextechmen You should use a $2 arduino nano instead of this expensive controller.


If I have the arduinos, I'll see when I incorporate it,
I already have a circuit to make the generator with ic 555.
I have a pulse generator there, I hope to find it.
the proposal of
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(A Reed Switch (Ground to Gate) P channel MOSFET and Relay :)

It is also interesting
thanks for your contributions and proposals, comments and videos, so we continue to learn, inform and build

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #124 on: October 26, 2020, 06:42:37 AM »
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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #125 on: October 26, 2020, 06:58:15 AM »
I changed the bifilar coil for a bigger one, more wire, 2020 turns, wire 23 and 26, I used them in a bedini motor.

The result was that I did not turn on the 12 volt car light, I put a 75 watt incandence light on it, and the coil was powered with 60 volts, and it turned on 1/3 of its illumination, plus resistance plus voltage to power generate the back fem, but the way is not there to increase the voltage, of course I still do not have the appropriate signal generator, but I wanted to experiment.

The task is to replicate Mr. Porter, in a functional and practical way. Is it possible? Are the results true?

Around here one tries to achieve it or obtain some good energy.

Has anyone of you tried it? I have achieved good results

As always, I appreciate your comments and contributions

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #126 on: October 26, 2020, 06:05:01 PM »
here's the Arduino and a Hall effect sensor; this detects the magnetic field peak. the ground to gate p channel reed, the collapse.


the hall for top dead center power and the p channel for neutralization.

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #127 on: October 26, 2020, 06:25:50 PM »
Okay. Thanks, I'll check it, but the arduino has to be programmed

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #128 on: October 26, 2020, 06:32:06 PM »
Today I found the signal generator, I am going to have to adapt the power circuit to it, since I have it I can control the relay, or through transistors or mosfet, so I have some work, I want to try first in this way with the generator, and then I will do tests with what they have shared with me about the arduino control

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #128 on: October 26, 2020, 06:32:06 PM »
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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #129 on: October 30, 2020, 06:16:57 AM »
Greetings
Continuing with the work, I got up early today to assemble the power system of the salts generator, since yesterday I went to buy the components, taking advantage of the time that I have free, since one stops working due to family tasks. In what he likes, to carry out his hobbies, experiment, make prototypes, good at research is coil, and we do it according to our disposition of material and economic resources, and to our knowledge, perhaps most do not have a laboratory, but If you have a lot of desire and talent to discover new alternative sources of energy or improve them, adapting them etc.

The coil power management device was simple, a BC558 transistor, two resistors, and a tip 41 transistor, and connection cables.
Once assembled and connected to the signal generator and the coil, and the 12 volt bulb (BEMF pick-up element), the signal generator was fed with 12 volts, and the power or output device 33 volts.

Once everything was in operation and I turned on the circuit, and as the frequency increased, the bulb began to shine at 130 hz, and its brightness improved by increasing it to 270 hz, more light was achieved in the bulb, but the duty began to increase. signal and much improved the brightness of the photo

Increasing the frequency gave an increase in brightness but going from one range to another, for example 270 hz, at 370 hz, the brightness was increased, but every 100 hz of increase the increase was less and less, that is, if it increased but but less.

I also tested with change in duty signal, the brightest range was obtained from 1.65% to 1.70%, at any frequency.

Increase the frequency to many cycles above 1khz and more, there almost no longer any perceptible changes in the brightness of the bulb, what if it is advantageous at high frequencies is to avoid the hiss or hum of the frequency.

 In testing and making changes to other tests, the tip 41 transistor was damaged 3 times, in one because I turned on the coil without the capacitor bulb, and the BEMF struck the transistor.

I read applied voltage, amperage drawn by power element (magnetized coil).

The bulb is 12 volts, 21 Watts, in some of the readings 32.46 volts was applied, with a consumption of 0.52 amps which gives us 16.8 watts, the brightness of the bulb is at 90 or 95 of its total brightness.

By varying the frequency, duty had either an increase or decrease in current, increase or decrease in voltage, but in average terms, the 0.52 was the most repetitive.

Tomorrow if I have more time I will give you images of the reading.
I'm also going to try motfet transistors.

The coil used does not yet have the specifications that Mr. Art Porter proposes, I will make one according to your specifications, measurements, coil resistance, magnets, and the core.

From what I have commented, we welcome your comments and suggestions.

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #130 on: November 01, 2020, 12:46:39 AM »
greetings to all
Today I made a change, the power transistor, the work that I showed previously was with the tip 41 transistor, and I replaced it with the tip 122.

Everything seemed that it would not have any change, but when moving the duty signal, the brightness of the bulb increased considerably.

When measuring the consumption increase, so the same in the voltage and amperage focus.

It is a matter of continuing to search and see which elements are more optimal for the best performance to generate more profit.

What if I have to make another coil, since the one I'm using has very little ohms, I need it to have more, in order to raise the BEMF voltage, a value closer to those proposed by Mr. Art Porter.


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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #130 on: November 01, 2020, 12:46:39 AM »
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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #131 on: November 01, 2020, 05:39:59 AM »
Continuing with the project
Build a circuit to use the IRF 540 mosfet, and see what happened.
And if it is better to use mosfet to switch signals, I obtain much better brightness, and at a lower operating frequency, as well as less current consumption, the duty signal cycle also varies.

I have been working with 24 volts output on the power. I'm going to try 36 volts, so if I'm going to make another coil, I need 28 ohms, for more induction voltage.

I appreciate your comments and suggestions.


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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #132 on: November 02, 2020, 03:34:09 AM »
today greetings
I worked on Mr. Art Porter's coil project, I increased the voltage:
38 volts with a consumption of 1.10
48 volts with a consumption of 1.32

and it was to be expected more voltage plus lighting, I try to keep consumption at 1.5 to 0.6 more or less.

By changing the duty signal I get a super bright one, but the consumption increases 2 amp to 3 amp.

In the image that I show you there is more brightness, but I realize that the camera does not capture as bright as I see.

For now I have been feeding it through DC power sources, the interesting thing would be to do it with the batteries and see the operation time, the consumption time and the battery charge, if the BEMF voltage increases the operation of the battery operating the signal circuit, power circuit, coil, focus, would be the most interesting.
Although I have made voltage and current readings, where I have doubts is the measurement of the amperage and voltage BEMF,

The readings of the parameters are done with the MS21O9A, the BEMF with the hook of the tester in alternating current, and the voltage in AC.

The commutation consumption of the direct coil in series with the ammeter.

Something important and that is what I have been working with a single switching of a single polarity, that is, that I only energize the coil in a single sense of the polarity of the voltage application (+, -), I have not worked at the same time the change of polarity (-, +), I think that if I work both directions of polarity of voltage applied to the coil would have a better result? Do you think so?

As I work with a signal generator and I only apply the signal to the power circuit, I have to find a circuit or a way to do how to reverse the polarity of the voltage applied to the coil. You have any circuit or suggestion friends.

Thank you for your attention

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #133 on: November 02, 2020, 02:39:55 PM »
Art's BEMF output measurements were all through a Full wave bridge rectifier in D.C.

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Re: Magnetic amplification and neutralization motor by Art Porter
« Reply #134 on: November 02, 2020, 07:05:32 PM »
Thanks so is.  synchro1

The measurement that I take is after the diode.

Since I'm not applying double polarity to the coil, that's why I don't have the other signal cycle, so I can use the full-wave diode bridge.

The application of double polarity to coil I have to solve it.

Something very interesting watching one of Art Porter's videos, he comments that the input power he applied to the coil consumes 9 amps, and he had a 7 amp fuse, (interesting). but the reading he made with his oscilloscope gave him consumption close to 7 amperes.

Today I will perform tests with the largest coil, it is bifilar, one of the cables is 23 gauge, with 30 ohms, the other is 26 gauge, since I have the generator and I can apply the signal well to them and alter the duty cycle, I will see the results.

I appreciate your contribution  synchro1  , thank you

 

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