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Author Topic: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB  (Read 18504 times)

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Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« on: February 12, 2010, 07:22:05 AM »
Here's a patent from Steorn:  http://www.google.com/patents?printsec=abstract&zoom=4&pg=PA3&id=1dOyAAAAEBAJ#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Inventors: Sean David McCarthy, Alan Simpson, Martin Flood, Maxime Sorin

US2009/0009157 A1 : SYSTEM
AND METHOD FOR MEASURING ENERGY IN MAGNETIC INTERACTIONS:
  An apparatus and method is provided for measuring magnetic force response time due to the magnetic viscosity of materials and for measuring total energy exchanged due to relative motion of magnetic materials. Voltage and current versus time through an electromagnet is measured and recorded.....

The SKDB may teach us how to build and use the patented measuring device mentioned above in order to perform tests on the materials so we will know the optimal parameters and are able to match the materials in a successful replication, thus the reason for the hard disc drive tolerances.

I think this device needs to be explored along with the other information in the SKDB.  I will post the main parts of the SKDB in the next post.

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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2010, 08:01:48 AM »
Some of the tools for testing noted below is used in the patented measuring device.  This is the reason why I think it is essential to research the patented measuring device because it may be necessary for a successful replication.  Also take note how it mentions Homopolar Motors and Generators under "Rotating Electromagnetic Systems".  CLaNzer decided to build a Pulse motor and Homopolar generator combination and I believe he is part of the SKDB, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2I6sOc056k   

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Physics Primer

1)  Atomic Structure
2)  States of Matter
3)  Force, Energy, Work, and Power
4)  Forms of Energy
5)  Newtonian Dynamics
6)  Intro to Electricity
7)  Intro to Magnestism
8)  Intro to Thermodynamics
9)  Frames of Reference
10)  Resonance

Rotary Systems

1)  Key Concepts in Rotary Systems
2)  Coupling and Pure Momentum in Rotary Systems

Magnetism

1)  The M-H Curve and Magnetic Domains
2)  The Magnetic Force equation
3)  Magnetic Effects

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1)  Forward and Back EMF
2)  Electromagnets in Detail
3)  Homopolar Motors and Generators

Tools for Data Analysis

1)  Statistics
2)  Calculus

Tools for Testing

1)  Oscilloscopes
2)  Angle Encoders
3)  Torque Sensors
4)  Displacement Sensors
5)  Thermocouples
6)  Hall Probes
7)  Data Acquisition Systems

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2)  Conservation of Energy in Electromagnet Interaction
3)  An Electromagnetic Orbo Interaction


[Edit:]  The above information was taken from the "SKDB learning resources" from SteornOfficial, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su3T7NFs85U

GB
« Last Edit: February 12, 2010, 09:09:52 AM by gravityblock »

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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2010, 08:07:11 AM »
What goes on in the Steorn SKDB Part 1, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1reS5ANxjg

What goes on in the Steorn SKDB Part 2, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVBcdEn-xa0

What goes on in the Steorn SKDB Part 3, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_1EcQcvkQc

What goes on in the Steorn SKDB Part 4, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev0B-_2PcMk


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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2010, 08:07:11 AM »
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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2010, 08:26:16 AM »
There's been a lot of talk about the B-H curves in the other thread in relation to the core material.

The SKDB materials for the Orbo talks about the M-H Curves.  This needs to be researched.

GB

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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2010, 09:56:38 AM »
An Angle Encoder is mentioned in the SKDB material for tools needed for testing.  This is used in the Patent Measuring Device.

A rotary encoder is an electro-mechanical device that converts the angular position of a shaft or axle to an analog or digital code, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_encoder


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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2010, 10:03:36 AM »
A Torque Sensor is mentioned in the SKDB material for tools needed for testing.  This is used in the Patent Measuring Device.

A torque sensor is a device for measuring and recording the torque on a rotating system, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque_sensor


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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2010, 10:16:35 AM »
A Displacement Sensor is mentioned in the SKDB material for tools needed for testing.  This may be used in the Patent Measuring Device or in the assembly of the Orbo.

Capacitive displacement sensors “are non-contact devices capable of high-resolution measurement of the position and/or change of position of any conductive target”.  They are also able to measure the thickness or density of non-conductive materials.  Capacitive displacement sensors are used in a wide variety of applications including semiconductor processing, assembly of precision equipment such as disk drives, precision thickness measurements, machine tool metrology and assembly line testing. These types of sensors can be found in machining and manufacturing facilities around the world, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitive_displacement_sensor


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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2010, 06:52:12 PM »
Seems folks forget that even in magnets and materials related such as core materials have CEMF.

Any moving magnetic field that crosses a conductor causes a CEMF. Be it a magnet, or a core or even a nail.

Simple answer to 90% of Sterons BS.

The other aspect is change is never instant. That is the other 1% of Sterons crap.
You folks should be asking for real input, to output, noting else. Seems you will never get it from Steorn.
As for there education modules they are tailored to their claims.

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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2010, 06:58:06 PM »
gravityblock
The crap patent on the measuring device is such that such equipment is built to need.
There is noting new in that device. Even the way it is done is not new.

If you need a torque measurement, you  build to the situation.
If you compared the input cost to the variations, it still will not be ou.
They play a game of look at this, and never, never, real input to out put.

If they had ou they would have shown it with out the BS. They have not.
they say it exists and then give out BS scope shots to say it might.

hell the output coil on the last demo does not even show up in the thermal imaging. Them input coils are easily seen. No OU.



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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2010, 06:58:06 PM »
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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2010, 07:25:28 PM »
gravityblock
The crap patent on the measuring device is such that such equipment is built to need.
There is noting new in that device. Even the way it is done is not new.

If you need a torque measurement, you  build to the situation.
If you compared the input cost to the variations, it still will not be ou.
They play a game of look at this, and never, never, real input to out put.

If they had ou they would have shown it with out the BS. They have not.
they say it exists and then give out BS scope shots to say it might.

hell the output coil on the last demo does not even show up in the thermal imaging. Them input coils are easily seen. No OU.

I could care less if it is new.  If it is new or old, then it may be needed for a successful replication.  The patented measuring device is to test and match the materials in order to have the maximum performance and best chance of OU.  Even the same type of core materials and magnets will have slight variations within their specs and the tests will help you to match the materials for the build.

If you think Steorn is B.S and not showing OU, then you have no reason to be here other than to distract from the topic that is being discussed.   I will not tolerate it.  You've stated your opinion about the Patent, the measurements, the SKDB, and the Orbo......so you should have nothing more to say.

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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2010, 07:30:22 PM »
The M-H curve is for the state of the magnetic position for recording of data digital or analog.
To low a curve and it would be easy to lose the information placed on the magnetic drive. To high and it will be difficult to change the state.

It again appears to be part of there play of similar to making a hard drive.

If so the average core material is not going to work well for this stuff. Most are designed to the domains to move a bit more rapidly than a magnetic tape or disk.

The M-H is the ability to change the state and keep it there. with also the need to be able to change that state.

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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2010, 03:31:28 AM »
The Magnetic Torque Measurement System is a system specifically designed and built to
measure the ‘pure torque’ of permanent magnetic interactions during rotary motion.

Below is a table of contents for the "Magnetic Torque Measurement System" publication, provided by Steorn, http://www.steorn.com/images/magnetic-torque-measurement-system.pdf

                                Table of Contents
  1.1    Introduction.............................................................................................4
  1.2    Measurement Arm ..................................................................................5
  1.2.1     Angle Encoder .................................................................................6
  1.2.2     Torque Sensor.................................................................................7
  1.2.3     Drive System ...................................................................................9
  1.2.4     Hall Probes ....................................................................................10
  1.2.5     Displacement Sensors...................................................................11
  1.3    Data Acquisition and Control Software .................................................12
  1.3.1     Software Operation........................................................................13
  1.4    Data Handling.......................................................................................14
  1.4.1     Data Handling Method...................................................................14
  1.4.2     Key Data Handling Techniques .....................................................16
  1.4.3     Linear Interpolation........................................................................17
  1.4.4     Friction Compensation...................................................................19
  1.4.5     Base Line Measurements..............................................................23
  1.4.6     Load Measurements......................................................................24
  1.4.7     Pure Torque Profile and Magnetic Potential Energy......................25
  1.5    Calibration Techniques .........................................................................27
  1.5.1     Calibration Overview .....................................................................27
  1.5.2     Principal of Torque Calibration ......................................................28
  1.5.3     Static Calibration ...........................................................................29
  1.5.4     Multi-Static Calibration...................................................................34
  1.5.5     Effect of Radial Load .....................................................................42
  1.5.6     Effect of Axial Load........................................................................44
  1.5.7     Energy Measurement Uncertainty .................................................45

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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2010, 03:41:54 AM »
The M-H curve is for the state of the magnetic position for recording of data digital or analog.
To low a curve and it would be easy to lose the information placed on the magnetic drive. To high and it will be difficult to change the state.

It again appears to be part of there play of similar to making a hard drive.

This publication, published by Steorn, talks about the M-H curve, Asymmetry and Energy in Magnetic Systems, http://www.steorn.com/images/asymmetry-and-energy-in-magnetic-systems.pdf

As you can see in the above article, the M-H curve is not just for the state of the magnetic position for recording of digital data or analog, but is for all ferromagnetic materials, including Metglas, Finemet, Nanoperm, etc.  Recording tape is a ferromagnetic material, and to think the M-H curve is only relevant to recording tape, and isn't relevant to other ferromagnetic materials, is being very limited in your thinking.

GB

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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2010, 02:37:45 PM »
...
If you think Steorn is B.S and not showing OU, then you have no reason to be here other than to distract from the topic that is being discussed.   I will not tolerate it.  You've stated your opinion about
...

Your opinion also is stated. It is not the question.
This topic is not reserved to believers for repeating their act of faith, hoping it will make the reality.
The question is to say the truth about Steorn. There is no proof of OU but a erroneous calculus of energy balance: energy for aligning electron spins in the magnetic domains is accounting for losses! Hence Orbo principle is a hoax.




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Re: Steorn's Patented Measuring Device & SKDB
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2010, 03:10:43 PM »
This publication, published by Steorn, talks about the M-H curve, Asymmetry and Energy in Magnetic Systems, http://www.steorn.com/images/asymmetry-and-energy-in-magnetic-systems.pdf
...

If this worked as specified, then it would be very very easy to build a PMM with a magnet rotor and asymmetric ferrite pieces around on a stator. No need of current. No need of coils.
Why does Steorn not build one and show us?

 

 

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