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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2010, 05:47:54 AM »
OK,
I picked up a scope.
I have documented the preliminary signal coming from the Plasma globe.

I am cutting through hard pan dirt with this new ground I am turning over. I have never touched a scope. God how much I have missed!

anyway here are a couple of pics and if you like you can see my video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxsT93s2gi4

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2010, 02:17:51 AM »
Allright,
I have put together a vid of the first circuit using the spark gap and displayed them on the scope.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q7-I0Bpiok

Here are two spark gap pics that clearly show this happening

I wanted to include all my findings just to be thorough.
I need to walk my own steps to fully understand what I have accomplished, and to further view clues that I may have missed without the scope. This may be tedious but I feel it is important.
When I get proficient with the scope things should move faster.

The LED is an nte 30040 if anybody cares.

If you haven't looked at the videos do so, I don't like my drivel just flopped out there for too long.

What I have done on the last video and this one is show how the earth ground and the air ground effect the signal from the plasma globe.
I have not displayed much of the Earth grounding because it has so much action within the signal. This is an antiquated scope and just cannot read well enough. Or it may just be me.
I have got a long way to go towards understanding the scope and the signal I am reading.


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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2010, 07:00:07 AM »
As things are going slower here, with the many interruptions and preoccupations I am involved with I offer a little video of how I have figured out how to get the signal way more organized.
Here are some pics that show the progression by adjusting the spark gap to a closer position using a grounded spark gap.

The last pic will be on the 20 V range to get the signal to fit onto the screen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHKfJoYmfTo

Enjoy

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2010, 06:22:56 AM »
Yes things keep moving along, As I slowly progress still examining the first circuits I am finding variations that continue to amaze me.
As the last video showed the signal becoming more organized as the spark gap was narrowed. and the neg. voltage growing. now the signal is more defined into a DC square wave. As Don suggested you need to pulse the IT.

I set up an analogue AC meter on the IT and I measure 120 Volts AC. The hookup is bastardized though. The miligauss was more than enough to get the needed 2.5 necessary for 240 volts.
What did I just say?
I am short the voltage.
I am setting up the electrostatic voltmeter and going to place it around to see what values there are at this stage anyway.
I am jazzed The spark gap is producing good ozone now and I really haven't done anything different. The same two nte 125's and two LED's. I have incorporated the IT into all my testing just in case I find the electricity that is there as Don would say. The last variation I have done is taken both leads from the crown and set them bucking both diodes. then using the two LED's I am feeding the IT ( As a grounding effect) and that has given me these results.
Go figure? 
Lastly I am feeding the spark gap from the bucking side of the circuit.
I will continue to take readings on the earlier circuits until I exhaust all variations. 
I was given the impossible to find manuals for my scope and I need to bone up on its operation.

http://www.youtube.com/my_videos?pi=0&ps=20&sf=added&sa=0&dm=1

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2010, 03:16:31 AM »
As things have been going I posted more videos on my utube channel.

These are showing the relationships of the signal coming from the plasma globe, how these signals can be manipulated by the spark gap, How this signal may be separated using a spark gap, how many different signals can be defined within that one signal and so forth.

http://www.youtube.com/user/h2ocommuter?feature=mhw5#p/u/0/XPO0gIVu1jQ

Enjoy

Zane

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« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2010, 05:08:11 AM »
One of my friends found this today when I was looking for the Eric Dollard video for him

This is way more than I had ever imagined. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ZWrjcrPl4&NR=1

Enjoy. Get out your notebook to take notes when watching.

Get this out to others in your world.

Working together we can achieve what we set out to do.
Blessings and good will to all.

Zane

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #51 on: March 23, 2010, 08:01:59 PM »
Video acknowledgements and plasma globe associations.

Recent mentoring notes sent to me,
"Remember that don smiths devices are extremely difficult to understand, you need to be a radio freq. expert."

Gulp!

Then I found the videos... serendipity. A student ready to learn. what ever it is, I am answering the call.

This is what I have been searching for; Someone who actually does know what electricity is, and how it is correctly understood, defined, manipulated and applied; According to NT. DS and others of this elite field.

Here are three ED documents I have acquired today;

1 http://tinyurl.com/yh4eppl
2 http://tinyurl.com/ykj4vkc
3 http://tinyurl.com/yfolv69

Authors suggested by ED in the viedos:
Steinmetz,  Wheatstone, Sarnov, Bloom, Boiagen, Bulie, Kenely, Heaviside, Maxwell, Faraday and Mc Farlan.

Conclusion;
Needed is the actual arrangement of the signal coming from the plasma globe, or if it is already correct, we as followers have not found how to utilize what is there.
Don has stated to use the parabolic resonance signal, and the pulsed DC square wave from the Diodes. (This last statement is visually applied to the output of the table top design as most people call it. This is directly adapted to the secondary HV center tap sign transformer on the output side of the two hot wires.)  As far as I can find he has suggested no other comonly referred to electrical signals.

I am new to electronics so if I am wrong please set me strait!

I anyone has further documentation, videos or related Authors books mentioned above please post the links.

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2010, 01:41:30 AM »
I have finally been able to manipulate the signal into a combonation AC and DC consistant signal where the DC is a consistant V top and Bottom (like a saw tooth but not bent over), absolutely no fine traces inside or outside, The AC has the spark chopping the complex waves in two. Another wild thing is the DC signal is hundreds of volts higher than the center line for the traces?

The electrostatic voltmeter works the same every time I adjust to this special position.

I am using the double grounded spark gap and taking the signal directly from the output side of the IT. This is also where I am using the electrostatic voltmeter.
The readings at that point are consistently 400 to 500 volts. Either one or the other. rock solid depending where I set the two gaps.
Any way I am feeling lousy so I decide to post the findings verbally and I will post pics and video later.

Note; I tested the scope with house current and voltage. The scope figures are not within the calibrated range. Or I just am confused about taking the readings.
My "B" Chanel does not work so maybe that is the problem.
The Manuel says to use the "B" Chanel but I figured the "A" Chanel would be the same.??

Nothing mind bending yet just improvements.

Good day
Zane

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« Reply #53 on: April 22, 2010, 12:26:53 AM »
Ok.
After being sick for a week and going to work I have been all sucked out. Just feeling a bit better and needing to get back to the shop I had my camera all loaded up and did not feel well enough to take the shots I mentioned in my last post. no biggie.
I went through the steps with my circuit to see what the hell I had done. the process seemed to have something to do with the conical coil I put together and doubled back the amplification to the spark gaps. As I removed this to see if the amplification had anything to do with the electrostatic voltmeter working well I discovered a few other things that I have never seen before in my circuit.
Here is a video showing the ESV readings coming from the output side of the IT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aZy8MjgZRk

1480 Neg spikes, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO4IdgI0nE8
Next and surely the next step after the last post is this one showing the strait DC voltage triggered pos signal and the deflection, or "voltage increase" caused by the spark gap distance through the imbalance of the circuit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reuc-lklWcA

This last video is showing how I am finally! able to get a cap to violently discharge on its own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq3wTYOPpdM

The last video is how the large speaker magnet effects the sparkgaps and what is surely possible when manipulating the magnetic spark apparatus. This has many possibilities and implications about how you want the circuit to perform. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-FXrnmdd6w
With this view you could imagine what NT was doing with his circuitry.

That being said, I am speculating how he momentarily interrupted the abrupt discharge to produce various impulses.

Zane

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #54 on: April 23, 2010, 05:25:17 AM »
Hi all,
The light bulb comes on.
As my last post mentioned I finally found the hot button to get the capacitors to automatically discharge.

well, today I found a silent discharge spark and a noisy discharge spark.

The silent one lights the bulb
The noisy one does nothing but get loud.
Here is the video and Yea the same old circuit. nothing but dull information but the system is producing more results.
I blew all my LED's so I did without them and found these results.
go figure.
From the amount of responces I have been getting, I must be on the right track.
I am very happy to be getting the reads.
Thanks everyone for the encouragement. It is something special.
thank you all
Here is the proof of discoveries mentioned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qC03Bqp7GA

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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2010, 03:15:03 AM »
Ok, This is the third try at this post.
errors galore...

What I have done is defined the correct way to extract the energy from a capacitor. meaning; This video shows how I found the correct method. where to apply the grounded spark gap and what the results will be using either one or the other to achieve your desired results.

I realize others may know this, but from what I can tell it is not observed as a rule.

I can make a loud snapping spark or a silent spark that combines the elements of the block wall. The dipole, etc.

This silent spark hits the grounding rod like a pendulum of a bell and the capacitor sends this violent hammering action into the isolation transformer. This same pounding can be heard coming from the IT as well. Also this physical impulse can be felt on the outside of the capacitor."it feels like a rapid outward expansion of the housing of the capacitor".

here is the video and some pics of the circuit in use.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjuIIFgarrA

Good luck
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Re: Building DS Plasma Globe
« Reply #56 on: April 26, 2010, 07:48:49 PM »
Ok,
What I did next is double the NTE 124's coming from the Crown and inserted the three big capacitors i used in my earlier charge testings. This is a "paralell circuit".
These are the results;
I am able to make and automatic discharge to, light "momentarily" a normal incandescent light.
Pretty sure the silent spark is magnetic not electric.

These results are were obtained by first setting a preliminary charge in the 600 V .7 uF cap then moving the IT 240 V line to the second Capacitor bank. When the second set should reach an equilibrium and then imbalance with the first cap, the first cap will discharge Silently and that will induce the second bank to discharge into the IT causing the light to flash again with a silent spark.
Next I positioned a third cap between the second , "added diodes/circuit" into the first circuit discharge and spark gap position. With this setup I will get an automatic discharge through the system as before (BUT) here is a problem, the silent spark (just one) explodes part of the spark gap creating a dead short. ((( this dead short is like a needle, it can hardly be seen. It is as if the metal or the spark plug electrode has violently produced a thread of material to bond these two materials)))

The signal coming from the plasma globe is now larger than the highest fully visible setting on the scope at maximum. so I am measuring at the output side of the IT.

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« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2010, 08:58:30 PM »
While looking for some videos at Boarderland I found this three page A.

It describes many of Tesla's findings about radiant energy, Either, and this being produced by the disruptive discharges.

Therein I found the similarities DS spoke about, what my experiments have shown with the silent spark having much more power. Also that NT was able to separate the magnetic from the electrostatic, and other concerns about these methods.

http://journal.borderlands.com/2010/the-broadcast-power-of-nikola-tesla-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1154

Zane
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« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2010, 10:37:36 PM »
I've been out of town working, Truck driving and had lots of time to think.

I have been able to simulate the wave forms that look like the Parametric oscillations that JLNauden had accomplished.

Saying that, the concept I have about what is happening is; When the spark jumps upon cap discharge, the multiplying effect is caused by cap charging. starting small then building to max. depending upon spark length. This would suggest the amplification is not overunity simply resistance to assimilate the complete charge to maximum at the first impulse.

These building blocks are what I am shooting at for the time being. As this process continues I am visualizing the reality of seeing the freq. capturing.  As everyone can see with the prior pictures of the signal, the freq is so complex and quick that it is virtually impossible to measure this without a very high speed transmission of this signal.
   Can someone tell me if Oscilloscope speed is crucial at this point? If so I will accommodate the suggestion.

I am going to test and retest the speed of the signal until I get the correct capacitors size. Driving the caps to break  within the spark gap at the first impulse will establish the correct freq.  I believe I should be able to discharge a cap at the highest potential + and the highest potential - . If this is correct.  I should be able to isolate the discharging, which would capture the block wall for further manipulation.

 At that point I will be able to set up the LC tank to a resonant attitude.

I ordered a signal generator 1 Hz to 1 MHz and a variable DC power supply 0-18 V and 0-40 A
These should advance my understandings and capabilities of testing.

Good luck
Zane

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« Reply #59 on: May 28, 2010, 12:25:24 AM »
You people are absolutely awesome!

I came to a Light bulb moment today, LOL and gulping my way through this facet.
OK as anyone who has plugged in a multimeter into their globe and read an excess of 500 volts would have grasped in the dark as well as I am.

If Don is correct about flipping the block wall and learning to manipulate the magnetic resonance rabbit. this is a rigorous protocol of understandings.

Reading NT's patents, ED's videos and grazing the annals of others work regarding magnetic resonance. I am seriously considering just where this resonance starts accumulating.

I feel I must reproduce ED's Longitudinal test, to see how these magnetic values are amplified (Obvious Start),
Then add this knowledge to the DS circuit.