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Paul:

Why don't you explain to these folks that you are going to patent and sell everything you learn here on OU.com?  You are gleaning info from some very smart folks only to file for a patent so you can then sell the device.

Please explain why you are on an OPEN SOURCE site doing this?

If you call me a liar once more, I will post here all of your posts that support my statements.  I have them all documented.

Bill

My view are that patents are largely useless...Except for large
corporations that already know what they want to do, but if
Paul_L wants to give it try I think he should be allowed to have
a go at it. Paul is a very good researcher and seems to put out
information of everything about a project he as is learning,
educating others in the process, including me. I know his
experimental techniques are valid as we have seen in the
past. He thinks like an electrical engineer.

I have a problem with people with so much vested interest that
they can't even explain why they are saying, what they are saying
even when pressed. Or people that refuse to communicate at all
even though communication is being directed directly to them.

So Pirate you are saying is really not making sense. If patents work
then Paul_L has a dark side in trying to achieve them at others expense
but if patents don't work then he would be just wasting his time trying to
achieve something that won't payoff in the long run. You can't have
it both ways. History is on the side of the latter. If Paul_L has a problem,
it is being excessively emotional and seriously listening to his critics.

Don't forget that OU in a device is simply a gateway into more unknown
processes that are going to be have to be fully probed because only true
ZPE is equivalent to a fueled process. And I am not talking about claims
to ZPE. Patent as many devices as you like, where their energy comes
from the environment...but how do you know this ahead of time during
the development process?

:S:MarkSCoffman

My view are that patents are largely useless...Except for large
corporations that already know what they want to do, but if
Paul_L wants to give it try I think he should be allowed to have
a go at it. Paul is a very good researcher and seems to put out
information of everything about a project he as is learning,
educating others in the process, including me. I know his
experimental techniques are valid as we have seen in the
past. He thinks like an electrical engineer.

I have a problem with people with so much vested interest that
they can't even explain why they are saying, what they are saying
even when pressed. Or people that refuse to communicate at all
even though communication is being directed directly to them.

So Pirate you are saying is really not making sense. If patents work
then Paul_L has a dark side in trying to achieve them at others expense
but if patents don't work then he would be just wasting his time trying to
achieve something that won't payoff in the long run. You can't have
it both ways. History is on the side of the latter. If Paul_L has a problem,
it is being excessively emotional and seriously listening to his critics.

Don't forget that OU in a device is simply a gateway into more unknown
processes that are going to be have to be fully probed because only true
ZPE is equivalent to a fueled process. And I am not talking about claims
to ZPE. Patent as many devices as you like, where their energy comes
from the environment...but how do you know this ahead of time during
the development process?

:S:MarkSCoffman

Hi :S:MarkSCoffman,

Here's what I posted yesterday on exactly what I would do if I had a self-runner, which is pretty much what I've posted years ago -->

"Myself, I'll *NEVER* let thugs trick me! As stated for years, I'll get the documention ready to do a quick prior-art publishing at a 3rd party company, but will not click the send button just yet. Before doing so, I'll spend ~ 10 hours handing out fliers that contains all of the exact details & part numbers for people to build it to help get it open-sourced while demonstrating the device to people. Then I'll quickly submit to hundreds of forums, and send out to a large email list. Then I'll come back home and click the submit button to quickly submit my prior art to the 3rd party company (~ $100 to $150)."

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8411.msg228693#msg228693

Of course if it's someone elses design, such as the Orbo, then I have zero interest in patenting it. That post is referring to if I get my old solid-state magnetic devices to self-run.