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Author Topic: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency  (Read 35592 times)

Offline PaulLowrance

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #75 on: February 16, 2010, 03:44:41 PM »

Cool, I thought of a way (an obvious method) to make radially magnetized ring magnets out of common cube magnets, and hence magnetic levitation bearings,  :)

http://globalfreeenergy.info/2010/02/16/simple-magnetic-levitation-bearings/

Is this now when they send the Thugs to bury me 6 feet under to prevent a self-runner?  I've been ready for that for years now. Looking forward to catching me some thugs to hand over to the authorities.  ;D

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #76 on: February 16, 2010, 05:31:09 PM »
Cool, I thought of a way (an obvious method) to make radially magnetized ring magnets out of common cube magnets, and hence magnetic levitation bearings,  :)

Good thinking, Paul. But why not use arc segments? I think you'll find the field will be more uniform.
http://www.supermagnetman.net/index.php?cPath=37&page=3

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #77 on: February 16, 2010, 06:10:39 PM »
Good thinking, Paul. But why not use arc segments? I think you'll find the field will be more uniform.
http://www.supermagnetman.net/index.php?cPath=37&page=3

Hi,

I believe those arc magnets are aligned lengthwise, which is in the wrong direction. I'm sure someone magnetizes arc magnets in the thin height / inward direction, but they're definitely uncommon. Let me know if you find any at a good price.

Yesterday I bought 500 tiny 1/16" cube NdFeB magnets for practically nothing, like $8. That should be enough to make the levitation bearing and also the new designed "Self running Orbo Replication."  :)


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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #78 on: February 16, 2010, 06:33:09 PM »
I believe those arc A are aligned lengthwise, which is in the wrong direction.

Nope, they're magnetized just the way you want them. You need to buy 2 sets, though, because they are alternating polarity, half with N pole inside and the other half with S pole inside.

I have a couple sets and have already built 2 magnetic bearings with them, very much like you suggest. But even with these, it's not as simple as you might think. It handles the radial loads nicely, but not the axial load.

Give George a call. He's a helluva nice guy and will answer any questions you might have.

Contact for George Mizzell: http://www.supermagnetman.net/contact_us.php

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #79 on: February 16, 2010, 07:04:27 PM »
I agree that each neighbor would have to be oppositely polarized in order to stick like that unglued.

So this is what you recommend,

Two of these (can only hope it's correct because image is broken):
OD=15.9mm, $3.50*2 = $7
http://www.supermagnetman.net/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=960

OD=31.94mm, $3.50*2 = $7
http://www.supermagnetman.net/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=323

So that makes both ends for $14?

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #80 on: February 16, 2010, 07:21:09 PM »
It's difficult to tell how many segments are included.  Very few are clear. For example the following item says, "Price is per set of four pieces," but it's $9.75,

http://www.supermagnetman.net/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=1370

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #81 on: February 16, 2010, 07:22:10 PM »
This item shows 6 segments, yet the text says, "Arc segments for motor - OD-31.94mm, ID-27.94mm, 6mm wide. 12 pcs to make a circle. 1 Set includes 14 magnets (1 extra for each pole up to 4 sets)."  So what's the price for a "set"?

http://www.supermagnetman.net/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=323

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #82 on: February 16, 2010, 07:40:41 PM »
It's difficult to tell how many segments are included.  Very few are clear.

As I said above, contact George. He will happily answer any questions you might have. I bought mine a couple years ago from his "clearance" page and they are no longer listed. I don't have any personal knowledge about the magnets listed right now.

Here again is his contact information:
http://www.supermagnetman.net/contact_us.php

ETA: You can also watch hs videos at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/SuperMagnetMan#p/u

Some of them are very educational.

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #83 on: February 16, 2010, 07:56:25 PM »
Oc, can you show a video of your magnetic levitation bearings spinning?

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #84 on: February 16, 2010, 08:15:56 PM »
Oc, can you show a A of your magnetic levitation bearings spinning?

I don't have anything that does something useful, just a crude proof-of-concept juryrig setup that I assembled in a bench vice. All I have is 2 wooden blocks with bored holes and arc magnets glued into the holes, N poles in one block and S poles in the other.

For testing, I placed the blocks into a bench vice and used a 3" long rod magnet as a spindle. I held the rod magnet in the center and tightened the vice until the ends of the rod stabilzed in the center of the ring. It worked but was axially unstable. Just a slight axial force and the spindle would shoot through until it was forced against the bottom of the hole.

I haven't put the effort into it to stabilize things to make it usable, and haven't touched it for a couple years. But I'm confident there is some way to stabilize it.

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #85 on: February 16, 2010, 08:31:04 PM »
I'd image that if the inner ring is too small compared to the outer ring, then it would shoot out a lot easier. If the inner ring is too close to the size of the outer ring, then it will probably will be unstable radially. Somewhere there's probably a good balance ratio. Not sure what that ratio would be. Personally I don't have $50 to gamble on getting it correct the 1st time.  :'(

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #86 on: February 16, 2010, 08:37:36 PM »
It's been decades since I've dabbled into this field, but here's what I've come up with so far in terms of what material to use to hold the magnets & bearing together. Would you believe balsa wood, lol?

Tensile Strength (MPa):

Balsa (high density, somewhat common):    32.2 MPa, 0.225 g/cm3, 143 ratio
Balsa (medium density, common):    19.9 MPa, 0.15 g/cm3, 133 ratio
Balsa (ultra low density, uncommon):    7.6 MPa, 0.075 g/cm3, 101 ratio
Douglas fir Wood:    50 MPa, 0.51 g/cm3, 98 ratio
Pine wood:        40 MPa, 0.50 g/cm3, 80 ratio
Nylon:            75 MPa, 1.15 g/cm3, 65 ratio
Acrylic:        70 MPa, 1.2 g/cm3, 58 ratio
ABS plastic:        40 MPa, 1.06 g/cm3, 38 ratio

First is tensile strength. Next is density. The, "ratio" is the tensile strength divided by density-- higher number the better.

Of course there are a lot better materials. That carbon fiber high tech space-age stuff, whatever it's called, but I don't have the $ to buy it.

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #87 on: February 17, 2010, 06:41:41 AM »
Paul:

Why don't you explain to these folks that you are going to patent and sell everything you learn here on OU.com?  You are gleaning info from some very smart folks only to file for a patent so you can then sell the device.

Please explain why you are on an OPEN SOURCE site doing this?

If you call me a liar once more, I will post here all of your posts that support my statements.  I have them all documented.

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« Reply #88 on: February 17, 2010, 09:36:08 AM »

Like I've said for years, no offense Stefan, but this forum would be the LAST forum in the world I would post the Smoking Gun, a self-runner, for obvious reasons. Anyone who does not know the reasons, please contact me in private.

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #89 on: February 17, 2010, 04:38:13 PM »
Please explain why you are on an OPEN SOURCE site doing this?

You are a liar. I have posted at this forum your lies. You pasted a fraction of a sentence from my websites public statement, and you even had to offer your sick interpretation to make that fractional sentence seem bad. You did not even provide a link or snapshot of my public statement.

I showed your lie by showing a google cache of my public statement webpage that google showed was taken back in dec. 2009 that says -->

"I have never asked or accepted money for my research. I will not accept money or be bought out. I will continue the research until the exact detailed designs to replicate a “Free Energy machine” is in public hands and wide spread. Then, and only then will I start a company to market and sell such machines to people and companies who are uninterested in building their own. My full 100% intent is to help this world as much as possible"

Poor pirate, such a low life, lol.

 

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