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Author Topic: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency  (Read 35073 times)

Offline PaulLowrance

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2010, 03:31:30 PM »
Biased assertion, it is right only for machines of the first kind.
Even the second law of thermodynamics is regularly challenged by "official" physicists because they know that it is a statistical law not true at nano-scales.
And there is always the third kind machine, using a possible hidden energy source.
Type 2 and 3 would be compatible with fundamental physics laws.

Well said!

The equations I am using are not theoretical. They are well tested. The main equation being for the energy in indutance, E = 1/2 L I^2.  Although that is not to say my measurements are accurate enough, or that the core inductance was constant enough, but if one could witness all of my scope measurements, testing, and detailed analysis of the Metglas MAGAMP core they might be satisfied as I am. So the next step is a self-runner.


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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2010, 05:08:07 PM »
btw, it seems pointless to question such basic 101 electronics equations such as I = V / R, V = I * R, P = I^2 * R. To do so would mean one could not even trust a simple digital multimeter.

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2010, 05:19:52 PM »
btw, it seems pointless to question such basic 101 electronics equations such as I = V / R, V = I * R, P = I^2 * R. To do so would mean one could not even trust a simple digital multimeter.
You can't trust a digital multimeter with cold electricity.

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2010, 05:30:40 PM »
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Well, after spending days doing scope measurements, I've already satisfied myself that the calculations are correct and accurate enough. Although of course there could be errors, but I'm past that, to the point of now working on making a self-runner that will operate from a relatively small capacitor. Batteries not allowed!  :)

It is the best method. Only an obvious experiment can definitely close such a discussion. Good luck!


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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2010, 05:38:22 PM »
You can't trust a digital multimeter with cold electricity.

Well see for certain when cold electricity is proven, but such 101 Electronics equations show that there is at least that amount of power. So you're correct that there might be even more power than what Steorn demonstrated in yesterdays Talks.  :)

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2010, 07:07:40 PM »

I received my Enermax Marathon PC fan that according to the ebay ad is supposed to be "friction-free" due to magnets.  What a waste of $8!  -->

http://globalfreeenergy.info/2010/02/01/enermax-marathon-pc-fan/

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2010, 04:57:56 AM »
I received my Enermax Marathon PC fan that according to the ebay ad is supposed to be "friction-free" due to magnets.  What a waste of $8!  -->

http://globalfreeenergy.info/2010/02/01/enermax-marathon-pc-fan/

haha, a friction free fan wouldn't cause air to move.

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I think that it would be a good idea to post some images of your setup rather than your circuit diagrams - this may help replicators a little.

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2010, 06:57:37 AM »
I received my Enermax Marathon PC fan that according to the ebay ad is supposed to be "friction-free" due to magnets.  What a waste of $8!  -->

http://globalfreeenergy.info/2010/02/01/enermax-marathon-pc-fan/

Hey Paul, I wonder if your latest circuit would work driving my four toroids in series?  Any thoughts?

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2010, 03:17:46 PM »
haha, a friction free fan wouldn't cause air to move.

Actually they claimed friction-free *bearings*. What a joke. More like massive friction bearings.


I think that it would be a good idea to post some images of your setup rather than your circuit diagrams - this may help replicators a little.

How about 3 youtube videos since Jan. 16, 2010?  ;)

World's Tiniest Steorn "Orbo replication", January 16, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6erWHYSHSs

World's Tiniest Steorn "Orbo replication" - Flat current pulse, January 17, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u10do21JLAQ

Today's work on "Tiny Orbo Replication 2", January 27, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z-AhflaoVA

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2010, 03:29:51 PM »
Hey Paul, I wonder if your latest circuit would work driving my four toroids in series?  Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Bruce
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It depends on total inductance of all four toroids when they are well into the saturation curve, and your machines rpm. The circuit takes the energy put into the toroid and uses it sustain the current pulse as the magnet moves away. Well, at least it supposed to maintain the current. According to LTspice I should expect ~ 10% decay in current at 15,000 rpm with one toroid, and possibly less decay with two toroids. The circuit is for high rpm designs. I know, Sean says the current needs to be constant, but I don't buy that. Well see about that with my new design.  :)

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2010, 05:12:37 PM »
I received my Enermax Marathon PC fan that according to the ebay ad is supposed to be "friction-free" due to magnets.  What a waste of $8!  -->

http://globalfreeenergy.info/2010/02/01/enermax-marathon-pc-fan/
Magnetic bearings are standard issue in some industries:
http://www.skf.com/portal/skf_rev/home

It may be that there are minimum shaft speeds for good operation

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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2010, 05:18:12 PM »
Thanks for the link. Those are active magnetic levitation  bearings. Do you know where to buy passive magnetic levitation bearings?

Btw, the ones in the $8 fan are by now means magnetic levitation bearings. It's just a marketing stunt.

One idea is to just get a ring magnet where the magnetic field goes inward, and get another another smaller ring magnet where the field goes outward, place the smaller ring magnet on a plastic rod, make another inner / outer ring magnet and place that at the other end of the rod, and you have a passive magnetic levitation bearing!  :)   Problem is, where do you buy such ring magnets.


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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2010, 05:28:14 PM »
Has anyone seen this fun little toy, the Levitron

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv8msBamA3M


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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2010, 06:11:14 PM »
Thanks for the link. Those are active magnetic levitation  bearings. Do you know where to buy passive magnetic levitation bearings?

Btw, the ones in the $8 fan are by now means magnetic levitation bearings. It's just a marketing stunt.

One idea is to just get a ring magnet where the magnetic field goes inward, and get another another smaller ring magnet where the field goes outward, place the smaller ring magnet on a plastic rod, make another inner / outer ring magnet and place that at the other end of the rod, and you have a passive magnetic levitation bearing!  :)   Problem is, where do you buy such ring magnets.

I found these ring magnets in the automotive section at Wal-mart. It is packaged as a 6" magnetic parts tray with a rubber case to protect the magnet and to prevent marring of surfaces, for less than $6.00 each.  The ring magnets are axially magnetized.  You still need the smaller ring magnets, but it shouldn't be a problem to find some to match the dimensions of these larger ring magnets.  If it doesn't work, then you'll have the ring magnets for other projects.


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Re: "Tiny Orbo Replication" over 100% efficiency
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2010, 06:59:42 PM »
There are loads of cheap ring magnets from the magnetrons of old microwave ovens . Always short out/discharge the high voltage cap  before working on microwaves.

 

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