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Author Topic: Magnet motor in Argentina  (Read 190129 times)

Offline Omnibus

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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #510 on: April 08, 2006, 06:23:06 AM »
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So, what about it?

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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #510 on: April 08, 2006, 06:23:06 AM »

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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #511 on: April 08, 2006, 06:24:31 AM »
ps tjanzer - no more jokes omnibus is likely to get mad :) (pokes omnibus in the ribs) sorry can't help but get excided about this project. :)

Agreed, me too. This is how it needs to happen. We need to get 3 or 4 working models. They don't really need to be replications. They just need to prove the theory. This will get everybody going and who knows where it will lead!

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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #512 on: April 08, 2006, 06:28:29 AM »
think about it tjanzer the other three mags would be pulling their way around as the first three are trying to "escape" the pressure ring. the would help keep the rotor midline lined up with the mags on the other side also...... come to think of it tao run a femm on this rotor under normal stator setup will ya....please

red being north, blue being south

im not sure what to expect just got a feeling on this one. :) ** sings "i got that lovin fealin wouh that lovin fealin"

thanks
danny

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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #512 on: April 08, 2006, 06:28:29 AM »
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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #513 on: April 08, 2006, 06:31:52 AM »
Danny,

You forgot your medication again today, didn't you.

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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #514 on: April 08, 2006, 07:05:19 AM »
No, it does not work in the way shown on the video (animation). See, when the magnet with an opposite poles comes together the stator magnets will be lifted up and will STAY in this position (not fall as shown) till magnets change polarity. And opposit poles will keep the rotor dead.
Sorry to say but 'PMM Argentina' works in other way (field commutation).

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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #514 on: April 08, 2006, 07:05:19 AM »
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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #515 on: April 08, 2006, 07:24:58 AM »
sorry light but i didn't understand what you were saying (could just be me) could you be more descriptive please. when do the magnets (and what magnets rotor or stator?) come into contact with oposite sides? and oposite sides attract so why would the stator be pushed up by an oposing pole? and what magnets change polarity? you mean when the rotor rotates around to the other side? and i agree opposite poles in magority would kill the device.

thanks
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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #516 on: April 08, 2006, 08:17:00 AM »
Quoting Lynxis, from another thread:
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Seems the simple "tidder todder" device being shown in various documents would
be the very easiest to attempt understanding and building"...

and if It can be proven to work... then one could develop this further to
produce motive force to drive a wheel.

There are some experimental setups that one should probably do as described
to understand the priniciples -- and then on to the perpetual version of that
tidder todder. (which is my nickname for that contraption)...
But that darn tidder-todder (if it can be made to work) // would actually be a form
of perpetual-pendulum...

 The Gary Magnet motor is what I WAS replicating when I came across this very thread...I believe the same forces are in play here, or are very related... I guess time will tell.

 And , I am still going to finish my Gary rep also...

PS: Keep up the GREAT work Tao! and thank yous go out to everyone working on this, and Stefan also for the bandwidth and website...

Could you keep me posted on your progress on this...
Would very much like to know if you have success with the GAry motor, in particular,
the tidder-todder...

thanks!

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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #516 on: April 08, 2006, 08:17:00 AM »
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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #517 on: April 08, 2006, 11:26:01 AM »
Because the motor works in repulsion, won't there be problems with the magnets demagnitising? Is there not some way to configure it so that it works in attraction mode?

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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #518 on: April 08, 2006, 05:32:29 PM »
Good luck  :)

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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #518 on: April 08, 2006, 05:32:29 PM »
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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #519 on: April 08, 2006, 07:07:48 PM »
Hi All.
here is a picture without any rotor magnet inside the stators,
so you can see that the stator ring with one stator removed
has a field almost like a bar magnet, at least at the opening !

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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #520 on: April 08, 2006, 07:10:30 PM »
Here is a simulation picture that shows,
that you can also use one bar magnet as the rotor
to have enough torque to use this as the rotor !
But the best position would be straight 90 deegrees to the stator opening
and not 45 degrees as are shown here in the picture.

So instead using a disc magnet you can also use
for a simpler prototype just a bar magnet which is
prolarized through its diameter !

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #520 on: April 08, 2006, 07:10:30 PM »
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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #521 on: April 08, 2006, 07:21:14 PM »
"Excuse me, but you are mistaken Light. The animation shows Torbay's exact principle of operation".
- Maybe I do, but as it shown it will not work. You will see it on your model soon (I'm wondering where can you find this fancy magnet for Rotor, centerpiece) - one side of Rotor will lift up one side of stator's magnets, while another one will keep the Rotor attracted. Something else has to be there...

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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #522 on: April 08, 2006, 07:36:46 PM »
I?d just tested a initial (no functional yet) model and there are some important issues. I built a basic model in order to test torque and ?functional concepts given by simulations. I used a NdFeB magnet (cubic shape) as rotor and ferrites as stator magnets. The reason: to use an "asymetrical" configuration therefore force (torque) between rotor-stator will be "large" but force to push down stator would be "small". Then:
1.- A strong demagnetization proccess is observed. Some stator magnets even changes the poles after a repulsion status for a few seconds. Then, this confirm advices from tao and treb79 about ferrites or fe based magnets. Degaussing is not observed with all NdFeB magnets (yet)
2.- The core functionality works according to expected results (more or less). The strong torque is done when rotor is just in front of last magnet before gap, according to sim. ?and the best time for pushing down the stator (less force) is when rotor has passed the center of his down position (a little bit delay), then I guest could be a "net" torque in a very short space of time. Syncronims will be very important. (All tested "by hands" step by step and locking the rotor)
3.- "Attracting mode" requires springs for lifting the "passed" stators. I think is better repulsion mode if degaussing proccess is not important. Has Anybody got data about degaussing proccess for NdFeB magnets that are stressed in a permanent repulsion mode? Maybe, if the device finally works, the net energy extracted could has any kind of proportion with the energy of the degaussing cycle!!!
All parts are PVC except the rotor axis and its support but the main areas of these metal parts are not orthogonal to the fields. I still advice about metal areas with an "orthogonal view" of fields.
This is not a working device yet. It?s only for measuring forces and behaviour observations. Next steps: all NdFeB magnets, bar for rotor and complete the cap ...
I hope it will help ...
Regards
PD. I will post pictures in a few minutes.

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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #523 on: April 08, 2006, 07:48:06 PM »
Here is a simulation picture that still shows
1.4 Newtonmeter torque with this design
just using a neodym bar magnet as the stator,
so this should be the easiest design so far.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Magnet motor in Argentina
« Reply #524 on: April 08, 2006, 08:14:42 PM »
Here, my test model pictures. I think it is a simple, and useful for testing purposes (rotor shape, magnets, caps, etc). It?s easy to build in a few hours.
Stators are PVC cylinders with ferrites (don?t use ferrites because degaussing is guarantee!!!!!!).
The rotor has a NdFeB magnet. I?m sorry if any picture is not very well focused. I think it is more important to know results as soon as possible.
Regards

 

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