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Title: Solid state version of Sprain motor..understanding how it works...
Post by: hartiberlin on March 19, 2006, 03:38:18 AM
Hi All,
I had today a pretty longer podering period, how the Sprain motor
is working and how one might be able to build a total solid state device
with the underlying principle.

If you build the Sprain motor with just horseshoe magnets inside the stator and rotor,? so that it can use both magnet ends
of the stator and rotor magnets to accelerate the rotor? ,
the attracting fields would form some kind of toroid and also have 2x the force of attraction.

Now have a closer look to this toroidal setup (statormagnet plus airgap plus rotormagnet).
When the rotor horseshoe magnet runs into the stator horseshoe track ( every stator magnet is
now also a horsehoe magnet), the airgap gets smaller and smaller and thus
also the DIAMETER of the toroidal magnet field that runs inside the stator and rotor magnets !

As the induction of energy is only dependent from the change of the magnetic Vektorpotential A,
it seems the energy production is occuring by compression of the magnetic Vektorpotential A !

This way we could now design also a different total solid state device which just
does this:
Compression of the magnetic Vektorpotential A !

One possible solution would be to have an electromagnet-setup "shoot" a toroidal
"magnet wave" into the direction of a permanent magnet airgap stack,
where the airgaps gets smaller and smaller? and between each airgaps
are sitting induction pickup coils, that will induce power into a load.
As the electromagnet shoots out a toroidal magnet wave, this toroid
is accelerated and compressed inside the narrowing airgap permanent magnet stack
and the toroid is pulled through the airgaps and thus also the diameter of the vektorpotential A
is compressed and we have an induction inside the pickup coils.

The trick must be to have just a traveling toroidal magnet wave ,
which is sucked and being compressed into the
"stator magnet" track and not a mechanical rotor....
or maybe a vortex like magnet setup to accelerate the
wave into a vortex spirial !

So the question now is, how to best design this electromagnet toroidal wave generator and
how a permanent magnet track can be designed, that attracts this toroidal
wave and sucks it further into its track and accelerates it.

Hopefully the output induction energy from the pickup coils will be larger
than the short pulse to generate the toroidal magnet wave.

What do you think ?

Regards, Stefan.

Title: Re: Solid state version of Sprain motor..understanding how it works...
Post by: lancaIV on March 19, 2006, 05:04:40 AM
Erwartet "ER" darauf eine open-source oder eine patent-faehige Antwort ?

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Title: Re: Solid state version of Sprain motor..understanding how it works...
Post by: hartiberlin on March 20, 2006, 12:11:13 AM
Was meinst DU damit Lanca ?
Noe, ist nur ein Versuch den Sprain Motor mit dem A-Field zu beschreiben
und daraus ein Solid State device zu bauen...
Title: Re: Solid state version of Sprain motor..understanding how it works...
Post by: hartiberlin on March 21, 2006, 08:42:03 AM
How can I create such a toroidal B-Field just inside air
moving along in the air without a coil around it ?

http://www.netdenizen.com/emagnettest/solenoids/?toroid

I really need to generate such a toroidal field inside the air without
a coil around it.
Title: Re: Solid state version of Sprain motor..understanding how it works...
Post by: hartiberlin on March 21, 2006, 08:47:18 AM
If one needs such a toroid from smoke air,
one can use a big cylindrical barrel with smoke
in it and have a toroid coming out of the barrel opening
and traveling through the air and being able to blow out a candle
in a few meters distance....

Look at the enclosed picture.

How could I generate such a toroid as a magnetical
toroid being able to travel in air ?

Maybe using 2 stacked toroidal cores behind each other wound with coils and
being pulsed a few microseconds one after the other ?
( So an electromagnetic pulse would be transmitted from the first
to the next and then into the air behind it ?)

Thanks.
Title: Re: Solid state version of Sprain motor..understanding how it works...
Post by: hartiberlin on March 21, 2006, 09:00:05 AM
Actually what you see as the red lines in this toroid
will be the magnetic vektor potential A-Field .

The magnetic flux density B-Field would go round in it as the blue B-field
shows here as the direction in one point.
But it would also go in circles inside the red A-field like in a toroidal transformer core.


Nowif you change the radius r or diameter d of this magnetic toroid you can get an
electrical induction inside a pickup coil wound around this toroid or
inside pickup coils where this toroid moves through ,
accelerated by permanent magnets !
So if such a toroidal field can travel inside the air it could
also be attracted and accelerated by permanent magnets and
pickup coils could induce an output current when this toroid
goes through them.

This is the whole idea !
Title: Re: Solid state version of Sprain motor..understanding how it works...
Post by: hartiberlin on March 22, 2006, 03:48:05 PM
One question:
If the red A-field in the graphics above would just rotate clockwise,
but not shrink or changing in any other way, would this also
induce a current in a coil that would be in the same spot ?
Title: Re: Solid state version of Sprain motor..understanding how it works...
Post by: lancaIV on March 30, 2006, 12:47:06 AM
Our actual motor/generator experiment :
the generator-coil in a cage

test XXX effect:
input? ? ? ? ? 6V/0,18A? DC? ? ? 23V/0,6A? DC?? ??6V/0,5A? DC
output? ? ?6,6V/3,00mA? AC? ? 135V/1,5mA? AC?? 10V/7,0mA? AC

Scratch materials !!!

Sincerely
? ? ? ? ? ? de Lanca

p.s.:Go to your repair-shop,ask for washing-machine encoder !!!
? ? ? I know,an unkonventional kind of generator but useable
? ? ? and for cheap experiments functional? !!!
Title: Re: Solid state version of Sprain motor..understanding how it works...
Post by: lancaIV on April 02, 2006, 05:13:16 AM
Average of motor/generator cage-coil efficiency:2%
Demonstrating a success ?
Yes,the demonstration shows the difference between nominal and real efficiency,
the combination of commercial micromotor/microgenerator let
us receive an average of 10% !!!
Mathematical/logical we would have to get 49%(70%motorX70%generator)
as "IDEAL Transformation Result" !

A conventional transformer give us a 90/95 % efficiency !!!

These experiments are the base to understand the different results between
the publicated? Ramon Huth(DE10151067)/Li Yng Tian(DE4402337)-Patent object describtion
and the conventional micro-motor/generator combination !
In search of "Factor 10" !!! Quantum- Neurologic,something between
Paretto Pyramid?(Relativitaet/Relativity) -and Iceberg Theory(Schwerkraft/Gravity).

Sincerely
? ? ? ? ? ? de Lanca