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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2010, 05:00:24 AM »
Paul
you confuse me?

Quote;
 I don't trust *anyone* here since there's an appreciable chance this entire "free energy" movement is controlled and heavily watched. Like I've said, if I had such a legit device, this forum and other similar forums would be the last place I would post such news & info! 

The above advice was given by Paul to a user called Didit,who came onto the forum to disclose a working device open source
Didit took Pauls advice

Really why are you here Paul??

Like I said
You confuse me??

Chet
BTW
Sometimes[most] you really seem sincere.
But when a new guy shows up[to disclose something] your first post to him is usually "Did you get my P.M."??
Paul Whats up with that??
This is an OPEN SOURCE FORUM [Its right up there at the top]

Chet:

This was such a good post, I wanted to post it again as I think it makes clear why Paul is here.  This is not the first instance I have heard like this with him.  It appears to me that when a promising device shows up, he wants to intercept it for himself before it gets out too much on the open forum, hence the immediate pm's.

I heard of another instance about a year ago where Paul was attempting to "isolate" a very well respected member of this forum by pm'ing others about him. I have not seen any research posted by that fellow since.

Bill

PS  Remember, this is OPEN SOURCE
« Last Edit: January 15, 2010, 05:27:52 AM by Pirate88179 »

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2010, 05:00:24 AM »

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #61 on: January 15, 2010, 09:47:02 AM »

As you can see, it is people such as Pirate88179 who do not show COP measurements, who attack me. Pirate88179 defends people such as gadgetmall who have posted claims of over unity while not doing any COP measurements, who is opposed to global warming, etc. And he lies about my public statement.

He's the one to watch out for. I show my COP measurements, as shown in the 1st post of this thread. I have nothing to hide. Why don't you ask Pirate88179 to post his PI license? He hides behind an anonymous name attacking people such as myself who post their first and last name, who show detailed COP measurements.

And I'll do a background exchange with anyone in this thread.

Well well.  Please do not insult respected members of this forum like Gadget, MK1, and Jeanna, etc.

We have no way of knowing, at least at this point, that you are indeed using your real name.  You obviously did not use your real/updated address when signing up with godaddy.com for your website, why should we believe you used your real name?

My PI License number, that you seem to desire so much, is 00061.  There you go.  It is all over the web but I guess you could not find it.  It actually would have been a lower number but they lost my fingerprint card and that delayed things a bit. (It was quite a while ago)  We now have thousands of licensed PIs here.  You, demanding my license # is totally laughable.  What are you going to do with it?  Open your own business?  Paul's Free energy Devices and Investigations?  Sorry, California uses a different numbering system.

Bill

PS  I am a little slow sometimes but it just occurred to me that IF you indeed have me on ignore, why are you responding to my posts here?  Also, why do you repeatedly ask for my PI license number IF you have me on ignore and can't read it?
Oh, someone here is relaying these posts to you right? (as you stated before)  I believe this is yet another falsehood of yours Paul.  Who the heck would do that? ??? ?
« Last Edit: January 15, 2010, 10:19:01 AM by Pirate88179 »

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #62 on: January 15, 2010, 11:38:07 AM »
@PaulLawrence KB

I have just been taking my time reading through this thread, sipping my nice cool glass of Lemon Lime & Bitters cordial with a generous amount of Soda Water.
My my my what an eyeopener, what a thriller the pages have been, I have learn't so much here, had a few laughts too.

Reading through this speal of yours, I see your opinion of the members of the Joule Thief thread are liers, and you imply deception in their experiments, hmmm
As for claiming we have made claims of COP>1, go and pull your head in chum, you are talking drivvel, no one on that thread has made a claim they have made a self running Joul Thief, although I wish it was so.

As I am a long time member of the Joule Thread, and knowing those people on that thread, they are genuine, the salt of the earth, and they would never go out of their way to deliberatly offer you or anyone missleading advice or wrong findings of their experiments.

Mr Lawrence, you are WRONG 
I thought you were (past tense) an honerable gentleman, but I see you like to act like a king billy tyrant, going to save the world riding on the backs of those making the break throughs. In Australia, we have a word to describe that, we call them a "chissler", the dictionary discriptive word is parasite.
Then again, I might be taking a "lend" of you
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And as for calling people liers, may I bring to your attention to this little matter, you offered to send the software you were using to replicate and test Gadgets claim, as soon as you had worked out the bugs in it.
I'm still waiting "KB", have the bugs been ironed out? or are you hanging onto it so no-one else can verify the results are correct or incorrect.

I gave up holding my breath on it a while ago, seems you might be the lier sir, not the others who are Ladies and Gentlemen.
I think you need a good lie down, trying to save the energy world may be too much of a strain for you sir.
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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #62 on: January 15, 2010, 11:38:07 AM »
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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #63 on: January 15, 2010, 03:58:29 PM »

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Wrong, he did not see my public statement because you did not provide the link and you did not provide the full sentence. Once again you lie. Here is google cache proof. Look at it. At the top of the page google states the page was cached on Dec. 6th 2009. I did not edit my public statement.

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:KouVPJ5ntb0J:globalfreeenergy.info/public-statement/+%22I+start+a+company+to+market+and+SELL+such+machines+to+people+and+companies+who+are%22+site:http://globalfreeenergy.info/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


LOL, I feel bad for you. What a monster resides within you, IMO.

Ha!  And you dare to call me a liar?  Everyone here sees right through you Paul.  Nice try though.

Hmm,  lets see, that's all you can have left, you can't even tell people what I'm lying about, lol. Oh I'm so sorry that you could not get away with it by trying to lie to the good people here that I edited my public statement after your deceitful quote of my *partial* sentence followed by your out right lie that my public statement said I am going to sell other people's devices. People can see my recent posts in this thread for your quotes.

And once again, read & weep, google's cache of my public statement far before you accused me editing my public statement -->

For the umpteenth time I've posted this link, here is the google cache, Dec 6, 2009 01:56:57 GMT, of my public statement web page.

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:KouVPJ5ntb0J:globalfreeenergy.info/public-statement/+%22I+start+a+company+to+market+and+SELL+such+machines+to+people+and+companies+who+are%22+site:http://globalfreeenergy.info/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

That google cache shows my public statement as saying, "I have never asked or accepted money for my research. I will not accept money or be bought out. I will continue the research until the exact detailed designs to replicate a “Free Energy machine” is in public hands and wide spread. Then, and only then will I start a company to market and sell such machines to people and companies who are uninterested in building their own. My full 100% intent is to help this world as much as possible"

Oh that must hurt to see how I overcame your ill attempts. Thank the Universe for Google and their cached web pages. What a great find, as it protects good people from scum bags. Did you happen to see what google wrote at the top of their web page? "For the This is Google's cache of http://globalfreeenergy.info/public-statement/. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Dec 6, 2009 01:56:57 GMT."

BTW, for people who are not aware, that web page is on the google cache server, as you can see the address is an IP number, http://74.125.155.132, which is owned by google.   ;D





By the way, why have you not corrected the inaccurate/outdated/false/bogus address that is associated with your website yet?  If you site is so accurate and pure, why are you breaking the rules by providing them (your hosting company) with bad information?  You do know this is grounds to have your site removed from the web don't you?  Not that anyone here would turn you in.  Being as how nice you are to everyone and all of the experiments and videos of your experiments that you post, I really don't think you have to worry about that.

Let me repeat this one more time for Paul:  No one here has ever claimed that the JT circuit (by itself) is, was, or ever has been, overunity.  Therefore, the purpose for this topic is unwarranted, unnecessary, and not needed.

Bill

Gadget:

That is a nice looking device there.  I will admit I did get distracted by looking at it.  Now I can't remember what I was doing earlier.  Nice going.

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #64 on: January 15, 2010, 04:04:49 PM »
PS  I am a little slow sometimes but it just occurred to me that IF you indeed have me on ignore, why are you responding to my posts here?

I've already answered numerous times, and surely you've seen it. Again, a good person informed by that you were lying about me again. I have asked good people to inform me.

The only time I've asked you for your PI # is when I said that someone informed me you were lying about and that I had to once again start reading your posts. Don't worry, soon once again I'll stop reading your posts.


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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #65 on: January 15, 2010, 04:06:50 PM »
By the way, why have you not corrected the inaccurate/outdated/false/bogus address that is associated with your website yet?

Once again you distort the truth. I made it very clearly that used to be my mailing address, but that company went out of business. I have no updated my address because I no longer have a valid address. I am not giving the home address of where I am staying, as it is *not* my place. Is that clear?


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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2010, 04:11:48 PM »
As I am a long time member of the Joule Thread, and knowing those people on that thread, they are genuine, the salt of the earth, and they would never go out of their way to deliberatly offer you or anyone missleading advice or wrong findings of their experiments.

Indeed, they're your buddies, and you're making an attempt to defend them, a bad one at that. It's sad to see so many people posting youtube videos trying to wow everyone while not posting simple COP measurements. Very misleading indeed. Given the popularity of Joule Thief videos at youtube, there might have been thousands of innocent people this group has given the false impression that it's over unity. Really sad to say the least.





As for claiming we have made claims of COP>1, go and pull your head in chum, you are talking drivvel, no one on that thread has made a claim they have made a self running Joul Thief, although I wish it was so.

Nice try, but I never said anything about "this thread."  Gadgetmall has claimed over unity. In the past at this forum I have provided the quotes of gadgetmall saying such. For ages he's been making big claims, and time after time has failed to show any proof.




And as for calling people liers, may I bring to your attention to this little matter, you offered to send the software you were using to replicate and test Gadgets claim, as soon as you had worked out the bugs in it.
I'm still waiting "KB", have the bugs been ironed out? or are you hanging onto it so no-one else can verify the results are correct or incorrect.

I gave up holding my breath on it a while ago, seems you might be the lier sir, not the others who are Ladies and Gentlemen.
I think you need a good lie down, trying to save the energy world may be too much of a strain for you sir.
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jim


Too bad you can't show my lie. No, I never went back to working on the software to verify it worked on non MFC PC's. There are far better things to work on for now.

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #67 on: January 15, 2010, 08:30:23 PM »
Once again you distort the truth. I made it very clearly that used to be my mailing address, but that company went out of business. I have no updated my address because I no longer have a valid address. I am not giving the home address of where I am staying, as it is *not* my place. Is that clear?

So, you are not only jobless you are homeless too?  I am truly sorry to hear that. Times are tough for a lot of folks.

What is clear is that if you don't have a valid address associated with your website, which you don't, that site can and should be removed from the net.  I won't turn you in so don't worry about that.  I just was using this to point out your hypocrisy...telling everyone how they should live, etc and yet you don't follow the simple rules and laws for your website.

And now we see that you lied to Electricme as well?  At least you admitted it so, that is something.

Bill

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #68 on: January 15, 2010, 08:41:07 PM »
So, you are not only jobless you are homeless too?  I am truly sorry to hear that. Times are tough for a lot of folks.

What is clear is that if you don't have a valid address associated with your website, which you don't, that site can and should be removed from the net.  I won't turn you in so don't worry about that.  I just was using this to point out your hypocrisy...telling everyone how they should live, etc and yet you don't follow the simple rules and laws for your website.

Hypocrisy? How is it hypocrisy when I already said it was my valid mailing address, but I no longer have a valid mailing address that can be made public because where I am now living is not my place, and not my right to give out someone elses address publicly. Your lack of logic is amazing.




And now we see that you lied to Electricme as well?  At least you admitted it so, that is something.

Bill

It's sad how you can lie. I already explain this. I never lied to the guy. Read his own words, as I told him and everyone that I would release the software *WHEN I GET TIME TO DEBUG IT.*

I'm now know why humanity is so screwed up, killing each other, because humanity in totality lives a life dominated by emotional logic. You can't even think straight. I'm thankful for the small % of people who do have a good mind, who can see why and how to do proper COP measurements for your claims, but you people would rather WOW everyone, LOL. Eww, look at me, I can light a CFL bulb, gee that must be excess energy or something "special". That's called eyeball / ballpark physics.

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #69 on: January 15, 2010, 08:53:21 PM »
No, we would rather make useful things like free lighting for our homes.

How many led JT circuit driven lights do you use to light where you live?  I have about 10 or so and use most of them every day.  Plenty of light and it is free.  So why you see this as a bad thing I have no idea.

Please quote where I have ever made OU claims of the JT circuit like you just claimed I did? (Quote from Paul below)

"You can't even think straight. I'm thankful for the small % of people who do have a good mind, who can see why and how to do proper COP measurements for your claims, but you people would rather wow everyone, LOL."

What claims would these be Paul?  Is this yet another made up story of yours?  The list is getting pretty long here.

Bill

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #70 on: January 15, 2010, 09:01:44 PM »
No, we would rather make useful things like free lighting for our homes.

How many led JT circuit driven lights do you use to light where you live?  I have about 10 or so and use most of them every day.  Plenty of light and it is free.  So why you see this as a bad thing I have no idea.

Please quote where I have ever made OU claims of the JT circuit like you just claimed I did? (Quote from Paul below)

"You can't even think straight. I'm thankful for the small % of people who do have a good mind, who can see why and how to do proper COP measurements for your claims, but you people would rather wow everyone, LOL."



What claims would these be Paul?  Is this yet another made up story of yours?  The list is getting pretty long here.

LOL, you just made one in your own post. Quote, "I have about 10 or so and use most of them every day.  Plenty of light and it is free."  Ah, free light, eh.? LOL  Another one of your claims without showing COP measurements.


Are you okay, or are these discussions stressing you out, lol?

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #71 on: January 15, 2010, 09:09:05 PM »
Paul:

You call "free light" a claim??

Had you read any of the JT topic, you would know what I am talking about.

I get FREE dead batteries from friends and co-workers.  They no longer work for them so they give them to me.  FREE light.  See?

I use rechargeable batteries that I recharge outside on my EER for FREE.  See?

I use rechargeable batteries that I recharge in my van from the solar panel I made.
The sun is still FREE right?

I use my Bedini charger I made to recharge non-rechargeable batteries for FREE.

So, why do I need to post a COP?  What is the COP of free power sources?  What difference would it make?

There are many others on this forum that do the same thing with the JT circuits.

Any other "claims" you want explained to you?


Bill

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #72 on: January 15, 2010, 09:20:56 PM »
Paul:

You call "free light" a claim??

Had you read any of the JT topic, you would know what I am talking about.

I get FREE dead batteries from friends and co-workers.  They no longer work for them so they give them to me.  FREE light.  See?

I use rechargeable batteries that I recharge outside on my EER for FREE.  See?

I use rechargeable batteries that I recharge in my van from the solar panel I made.
The sun is still FREE right?

I use my Bedini charger I made to recharge non-rechargeable batteries for FREE.

So, why do I need to post a COP?  What is the COP of free power sources?  What difference would it make?

There are many others on this forum that do the same thing with the JT circuits.

Any other "claims" you want explained to you?


Bill

I have nothing against free batteries, but what does that have to do with the JT. Also, I never said that you claimed over unity. Show my post. It's in your head, and again you are twisting the truth. Read my posts and you'll see that I have said gadgetmall claimed over unity, and yes I have provided gadgetmall's quote where he said that.


Why should anyone have to spend time correcting your lies? I'll give you a few more posts before I once again start ignoring your posts.


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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #73 on: January 15, 2010, 09:35:09 PM »
... who can see why and how to do proper COP measurements for your claims, but you people would rather WOW everyone, LOL. Eww, look at me, I can light a CFL bulb, gee that must be excess energy or something "special". That's called eyeball / ballpark physics.

Here is but one of your posts quoted where you ask me to post COP for my Claims. Do you need more?

Again I ask you..what claims have I made?

Free light.  Yes, that was just explained to you.

What other claims are you talking about?

Also you ask what does free batteries have to do with the JT circuit?  This shows that you do not understand what this circuit is and what it can do.  My free batteries are "dead".  They will run any of my JT circuits for hours and hours.

If you understood the JT circuit, you would already know this.

Why don't you leave us alone over on this board and go pester the Steorn folks?
I am sure they need your help over there.

Bill

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #74 on: January 15, 2010, 09:48:28 PM »
Here is but one of your posts quoted where you ask me to post COP for my Claims. Do you need more?

That shows how you are either deceitful or somethings wrong with your mind. You said, "Please quote where I have ever made OU claims of the JT circuit like you just claimed I did?"

I never denied asking you to show COP measurements. LOL, why would I not want to ask you that. You keep saying that you've never claimed OU. Again, show my post where I said that you claimed over unity. Seriously, are you okay? If there's a problem with you, then I apologize, and do not mean to make fun of someone who has problems, and I'll just ignore all of your outrageous attacks & lies against me.



Why don't you leave us alone over on this board and go pester the Steorn folks?
I am sure they need your help over there.

Bill

Umm, I started this thread. You are the people who hijacked it.


Anyhow, I'll give you one more post before ignoring your posts again.

 

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