Author Topic: Joule Thief replications - not overunity (Read 98009 times)

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #45 on:** January 14, 2010, 05:02:35 AM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 10, 2010, 01:20:26 AM

Wow:

I just checked Paul's website and found this: (quoted in part)

"...I start a company to market and SELL such machines to people and companies who are uninterested in building their own..."

So Paul wants to get someone's free energy device (from open source) and turn around and SELL it? This is the same guy that wants us all to give up everything we have to save the planet yet he is planning on SELLING other people's designs? ??? ???

Now I really see where he is coming from. This is disgusting.

Nice to see that the truth eventually comes out.

Bill

PS I did not post a link to Pauls website as I do NOT want to appear to be endorsing it. Check here on our forum as Paul has posted links to it many times in many different topics. Read the page in its entirety (I only quoted part of one sentence) and make up your own minds.

Just to stop the continued disinformation provided by Paullawrence, above is my post that I made. Note in that post I say first, that it was quoted in part, and second, that I only quoted part of one sentence. Third, I said to make up your own minds.

Now Paul claims I slandered him by quoting HIS words. He says I lied and did not tell anyone that I only quoted part of his words. Well, there is the original post and you can all see for yourselves.

Also Paul, slander only involves the spoken word while libel involves the printed word so when you threaten people with legal terms you should really know what they mean first.

I just found it appalling that, after all of Paul's telling us how dedicated he is to bringing everyone on the planet free energy and how he beats up on folks because they are not doing enough to suit him, he says in his own words on his website that he will be marketing and selling free energy devices.

If you sell them, it is not free energy. Why not make them for free Paul? Why not walk your big talk??

See, Paul got caught in this little deception of his and he is mad about that.

Here is where he admits to changing his website after he was exposed:

Â« Reply #22 on: Today at 01:33:08 PM Â»

"btw, I have had Pirate88179 on my ignore list for days now, so if says anything I should read then please let me. This guy has out right lied about my public statement web page. In the global warming thread I posted a goolge cache link of my public statement page people could verify that I had not edited my webpage. In case people do not know, it is a google server that shows the cache date and the page contents. I have edited my public statement page."

The truth wins out.

Bill

gadgetmall · « **Reply #46 on:** January 14, 2010, 05:17:49 AM »

HE is just a kid Bill. Can't you tell . anyways as for selling technology I have Decided with the help of A friend and others like you to never ever patent anything again . I am letting My One patent run out in august and also i will release the schematic of the Light that i put up on you tube .That particular one charges it self and another battery unlike the e- light and i never drew it out . I promised Gl i would take it apart and draw the circuit out for him . it uses standard parts . I want to give it away . I want to keep no secrets and make no enemies and Just as soon as i get time i will Draw out the schematic and give it to the Jt group . Everyone there helped in some way or another . that is the way we are in the Jt forum . It is up to each one of us to share what we have learned and used and made better for all of us . I will not allow it to be patented either !I hope every one makes at least one

If its useful and means enuff to get some one so wadded up in them selves with hate for another then its not worth keeping . This is My New Years resolution . to be Kind and caring no matter what is thrown at me . It will not phase me in the least as we are 1000 +strong and already know what is worth fighting for .

ALBERT

the Gadget

WilbyInebriated · « **Reply #47 on:** January 14, 2010, 07:55:41 AM »

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 12, 2010, 07:51:11 PM

Photos of my Joule Thief. Note, these photos were taken after the capacitor was removed from the circuit. The capacitor that was in the circuit was the exact value that gadgetmall used. Furthermore, I tried various size capacitors, including a variable capacitor. The highest efficiency was obtained without a capacitor.

i don't recall gadget using a breadboard... two words, parasitic capacitance. you must have the same ideas on replication that tinselkoala does.

WilbyInebriated · « **Reply #48 on:** January 14, 2010, 08:07:19 AM »

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 13, 2010, 09:40:15 PM

Gadgetmall, why not show your COP measurements?

btw, as a reminder to all, mylow (a well known faker) also spent a great amount of time & resources while never asked for $. Mylow is one of many examples, so this proves there are people who are not interested in making $, but who are interested in distracting from legit excess energy research.

after that post about how you haven't worked for seven years...blah blah blah. spent all your savings, never asked for cash, distracting from legit research with diodes that don't produce a usable amount of energy, etc. and now this post of yours, where you compare yourself to mylow... what are you driving at here paul? you're not making sense and the contradictions you make confuse people.

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #49 on:** January 14, 2010, 01:35:04 PM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 14, 2010, 05:02:35 AM

Here is where he admits to changing his website after he was exposed:

Â« Reply #22 on: Today at 01:33:08 PM Â»

"btw, I have had Pirate88179 on my ignore list for days now, so if says anything I should read then please let me. This guy has out right lied about my public statement web page. In the global warming thread I posted a goolge cache link of my public statement page people could verify that I had not edited my webpage. In case people do not know, it is a google server that shows the cache date and the page contents. I have edited my public statement page."

Someone just brought this guys post to my attention. Sorry guy, but either my post was edited by someone, or I forgot to type "not edited." I have stated before that I did *NOT* edit my public statement page. Is that clear?

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #50 on:** January 14, 2010, 01:42:30 PM »

Hey, here is the proof that is creature called Pirate88179 is a liar, from the google cache server!!! ->

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:KouVPJ5ntb0J:globalfreeenergy.info/public-statement/+%22I+start+a+company+to+market+and+SELL+such+machines+to+people+and+companies+who+are%22+site:http://globalfreeenergy.info/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Read it and weep Pirate88179!

Everyone please take a look at *Googles* time stamp. It says, "This is Google's cache of http://globalfreeenergy.info/public-statement/. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Dec 6, 2009 01:56:57 GMT. The current page could have changed in the meantime."

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #51 on:** January 14, 2010, 01:46:06 PM »

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 14, 2010, 01:42:30 PM

Hey, here is the proof that is creature called Pirate88179 is a liar, from the google cache server!!! ->

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:KouVPJ5ntb0J:globalfreeenergy.info/public-statement/+%22I+start+a+company+to+market+and+SELL+such+machines+to+people+and+companies+who+are%22+site:http://globalfreeenergy.info/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Read it and weep Pirate88179!

Everyone please take a look at *Googles* time stamp. It says, "This is Google's cache of http://globalfreeenergy.info/public-statement/. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Dec 6, 2009 01:56:57 GMT. The current page could have changed in the meantime."

And attached is a snap shot of my web browser.

Show us Pirate88179 my nasty public statement, huh? How pathetic that you could not even provide people a link to my "full" sentence. You have stoop so low as to cut a small section of my *sentence* followed by your sick interpretation that was clearly wrong. My public statement was a very positive sentence!

Get some professional help Pirate88179!

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #52 on:** January 14, 2010, 06:17:56 PM »

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 14, 2010, 01:35:04 PM

Someone just brought this guys post to my attention. Sorry guy, but either my post was edited by someone, or I forgot to type "not edited." I have stated before that I did *NOT* edit my public statement page. Is that clear?

Paul:

NOT CLEAR.

Sorry, in your post in your words you said you "had not edited", past tense and then you said you "have edited", present tense, meaning up to that time you didn't, but now you have. These are your words. NO ONE can edit your post, except maybe Stefan, but I really doubt that he would edit your post. I can't edit anyone's post here, I can delete it, but not edit it. If I had editing rights, I would have edited the size of your attachment to a size that fits this page, (800x600) but I don't so I can't.

So now every one can see how your tactics work. You make a post, get called on it, and then you claim it is a "typo" or "someone edited" your post.

Sorry but that does not work here.

Bill

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #53 on:** January 14, 2010, 06:26:40 PM »

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 14, 2010, 01:46:06 PM

And attached is a snap shot of my web browser.

Show us Pirate88179 my nasty public statement, huh? How pathetic that you could not even provide people a link to my "full" sentence. You have stoop so low as to cut a small section of my *sentence* followed by your sick interpretation that was clearly wrong. My public statement was a very positive sentence!

Get some professional help Pirate88179!

How else can you interpret "market and sell?" How did I twist that? Are you saying that someone edited your statement page and these are NOT your words?

You said you would give 100% of your income to save the planet and that we should all do the same. Then I see on your homepage where you say you will market and sell free energy devices to the public. How am I twisting anything?

Again, are these not your words? Did "someone" hack your page and plant these words? Sorry Paul, these are your words.

You will be willing to help save the planet by marketing and selling stuff to folks. how else can that be interpreted?

I don't care if anyone sells anything, I believe in free enterprise. I just found it very ironic that the guy that says he will give away everything he has to save the planet will be marketing and selling energy devices.

As I said in my original post, folks can make up their own minds.

Bill

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #54 on:** January 14, 2010, 06:41:51 PM »

Quote from: Azorus on January 14, 2010, 02:47:39 PM

Silver give it up, no amount of evidence will change his mind. All he will do is say that this graph proves his point more and call you an armature scientist, it's what he does. And Paul as far as you saying that you will build free energy devices and sell them to people who don't want to build them that is not called free energy, it's hypocritical. If people do buy your free energy device they would be stupid, but it wouldn't change the fact that you would be a hypocrite.

Here is a quote from another topic from someone that had read Paul's original statement on his website prior to any changes Paul may have made to it.

"And Paul as far as you saying that you will build free energy devices and sell them to people who don't want to build them that is not called free energy, it's hypocritical."

Hypocrite was exactly the word I was looking for. Paul's own words in their unedited form speak for themselves.

Quote from: Bulbz on January 10, 2010, 01:28:24 AM

Well said Pirate...

Open-source free energy should be... Well just free !

Shame on you Paul

Here is another quote from that same topic above. Another reaction to Paul's website statement prior to any editing he may or may not have done.

Quote from: ResinRat2 on January 09, 2010, 03:16:11 PMSo let me get this straight, just so I understand clearly. You would work for free at your job (I assume you have a job, I don't know for sure.) and willingly give it all away to the Government to save the planet? Now, just in case you don't realize it, you need to pay for food and clothing and energy, etc. Since you have no money you would starve and die naked and homeless, unless you believe that someone will support you for all your needs?

Paul's response to this post here below:

"That is correct. I would give my all to save the natural environment of this planet."

This is why we all reacted to his statement saying he is going to market and sell free energy devices.

Bill

I hope this sets the record straight once and for all and we can get back on topic in this non-topic.

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #55 on:** January 15, 2010, 01:08:01 AM »

Pirate88179, you still trying to wiggle out of it. You were caught red handed. I see you just can't let it go without lying again. Notice how often Pirate88179 avoids quotes and/or links.

A few quotes of Pirate88179 lying:

Quote

I was more interested in the fact that you said that when someone develops a free energy device that is proven, you will then market it and sell it to folks that do not want to build their own.

Quote

Mr. "I will give everything I have to save the planet" Paul is going to be selling some one else's technology for profit.

Quote

Shame on you Paul. You are busted and exposed and everyone that has read all of this can plainly see.

You are a liar. I never said I was going to sell another persons device. Read my public statement again, "I have never asked or accepted money for my research. I will not accept money or be bought out. I will continue the research until the exact detailed designs to replicate a â€œFree Energy machineâ€ is in public hands and wide spread. Then, and only then will I start a company to market and sell such machines to people and companies who are uninterested in building their own. My full 100% intent is to help this world as much as possible"

Also twice now over the past week I've provided the google cache to show that I have not edited this page since at least Dec. 6th, 2009. I have never edited this page.

And here's the quote of Pirate88179 taking a *section* of my *sentence* -->

Quote

"...I start a company to market and SELL such machines to people and companies who are uninterested in building their own..."

And it does not matter if you said it was part of my sentence. You did not provide the full sentence. You did not even provide a link to my public statement. And the reason is so you can tell people an out right lie that I plan to sell other peoples devices when my entire public statement makes absolutely no reference to *other* peoples devices, and when I even wrote "I will continue the research".

You have been exposed. Get over it.

PaulLowrance · « **Reply #56 on:** January 15, 2010, 01:11:59 AM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 14, 2010, 06:41:51 PM

Here is a quote from another topic from someone that had read Paul's original statement on his website prior to any changes Paul may have made to it.

"And Paul as far as you saying that you will build free energy devices and sell them to people who don't want to build them that is not called free energy, it's hypocritical."

Wrong, he did not see my public statement because you did not provide the link and you did not provide the full sentence. Once again you lie. Here is google cache proof. Look at it. At the top of the page google states the page was cached on Dec. 6th 2009. I did not edit my public statement.

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:KouVPJ5ntb0J:globalfreeenergy.info/public-statement/+%22I+start+a+company+to+market+and+SELL+such+machines+to+people+and+companies+who+are%22+site:http://globalfreeenergy.info/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

LOL, I feel bad for you. What a monster resides within you, IMO.

Mk1 · « **Reply #57 on:** January 15, 2010, 01:31:27 AM »

@all

This tread is so funny everybody without exception know first that the joule thief is not OU.

An second of all Paul can be quite an Ass.

gadgetmall · « **Reply #58 on:** January 15, 2010, 02:09:03 AM »

here is the second firing and filament loads in place on My no good for nothing Distraction JT

I got 4 Peltier modules today and they do get HOT! on just 1 volt . Feels so good ~~
Gadget

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #59 on:** January 15, 2010, 04:40:11 AM »

Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 15, 2010, 01:11:59 AM

Wrong, he did not see my public statement because you did not provide the link and you did not provide the full sentence. Once again you lie. Here is google cache proof. Look at it. At the top of the page google states the page was cached on Dec. 6th 2009. I did not edit my public statement.

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:KouVPJ5ntb0J:globalfreeenergy.info/public-statement/+%22I+start+a+company+to+market+and+SELL+such+machines+to+people+and+companies+who+are%22+site:http://globalfreeenergy.info/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

LOL, I feel bad for you. What a monster resides within you, IMO.

Ha! And you dare to call me a liar? Everyone here sees right through you Paul. Nice try though.

By the way, why have you not corrected the inaccurate/outdated/false/bogus address that is associated with your website yet? If you site is so accurate and pure, why are you breaking the rules by providing them (your hosting company) with bad information? You do know this is grounds to have your site removed from the web don't you? Not that anyone here would turn you in. Being as how nice you are to everyone and all of the experiments and videos of your experiments that you post, I really don't think you have to worry about that.

Let me repeat this one more time for Paul: No one here has ever claimed that the JT circuit (by itself) is, was, or ever has been, overunity. Therefore, the purpose for this topic is unwarranted, unnecessary, and not needed.

Bill

Gadget:

That is a nice looking device there. I will admit I did get distracted by looking at it. Now I can't remember what I was doing earlier. Nice going.

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