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Offline innovation_station

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2010, 06:35:30 PM »
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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2010, 06:35:30 PM »

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2010, 07:27:08 PM »
paul ... 

I DO NOT ALLOW YOU TO SELL MY WORK ... 

I never one time ever said I would sell anyone's work. If you read my public statement you will see that I am talking about *MY RESEARCH!*

Also I clearly said that I will not sell anything until I succeed and give such technology to the public.

That's why I have *NEVER* placed a single ad at any of my research websites.


http://globalfreeenergy.info/public-statement/


You people can continue spread these lies about me as much as you want, lol, and I'll continue to correct you. It just shows what kind of people we're dealing with here.


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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2010, 07:30:25 PM »
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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2010, 07:30:25 PM »
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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2010, 07:55:16 PM »

Paul;

I think you are incorrect. The Dr. Schiffler's Circuit works by inflating
a magnetic bubble inside the Radio EMF Field...This is perfectly feasible
as Nasa has shown. When the bubble collapses (this is how the
oscillator works) places where the magnetic lines have connected externally
extract energy. This is not exactly zero point energy (is cheat energy), but it it is
overunity energy relative to the funded input inflation energy. Why can't a toroid
be used in place of the high Q antenna coil with a much more intense internal
magnetic field since nothing real is perfect, and some magnetic field will inevitably
leak in&out. In other words I don't believe what you are saying.

:S:MarkSCoffman

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2010, 07:57:14 PM »

I think this thread could use a better definition: why did this get started in the first place?

Excellent point.  I know of NO ONE in our group or on this forum that ever claimed the JT was OU.  Not one person, ever!  Now Gadget, and a few others, have circuits of which the JT is but a part or component and they may have achieved OU.

So Paul sees one part of a system, takes it out of the entire circuit and starts a topic saying the JT is not OU.  How is this productive?  Paul has claimed I work for Big Oil.  How is this productive?

I guess I can say: The sky is not made of cream cheese.  I think that is a good analogy as no one here has claimed that the sky was made of cream cheese either.

Bill

PS  Many others have seen Paul's original quote on his website and made similar comments to mine.  I have no idea what his website might or might not say now.

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2010, 07:57:14 PM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2010, 08:03:34 PM »
Paul
you confuse me?

Quote;
 I don't trust *anyone* here since there's an appreciable chance this entire "free energy" movement is controlled and heavily watched. Like I've said, if I had such a legit device, this forum and other similar forums would be the last place I would post such news & info! 

The above advice was given by Paul to a user called Didit,who came onto the forum to disclose a working device open source
Didit took Pauls advice

Really why are you here Paul??

Like I said
You confuse me??

Chet
BTW
Sometimes[most] you really seem sincere.
But when a new guy shows up[to disclose something] your first post to him is usually "Did you get my P.M."??
Paul Whats up with that??
This is an OPEN SOURCE FORUM [Its right up there at the top]
« Last Edit: January 13, 2010, 08:37:49 PM by ramset »

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2010, 08:21:24 PM »
What for to do such бальшой the device here look works from 0.3 V
Works even from water, salt, copper, aluminium
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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2010, 08:21:24 PM »
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Offline PaulLowrance

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2010, 08:33:08 PM »

 btw, I have had Pirate88179 on my ignore list for days now, so if says anything I should read then please let me. This guy has out right lied about my public statement web page. In the global warming thread I posted a goolge cache link of my public statement page people could verify that I had not edited my webpage. In case people do not know, it is a google server that shows the cache date and the page contents. I have edited my public statement page.


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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2010, 08:34:22 PM »
Paul;

I think you are incorrect. The Dr. Schiffler's Circuit works by inflating
a magnetic bubble inside the Radio EMF Field...This is perfectly feasible
as Nasa has shown. When the bubble collapses (this is how the
oscillator works) places where the magnetic lines have connected externally
extract energy. This is not exactly zero point energy (is cheat energy), but it it is
overunity energy relative to the funded input inflation energy. Why can't a toroid
be used in place of the high Q antenna coil with a much more intense internal
magnetic field since nothing real is perfect, and some magnetic field will inevitably
leak in&out. In other words I don't believe what you are saying.

:S:MarkSCoffman


More claims. Show the device and COP measurements. I replicated gadgetmall's claim because he said it was over unity. I have shown gadgetmall's quotes before.

So please stop the talk and show the proof. No? No proof yet? Okay, I'm going back to something I think is legit, the Steorn research.


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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2010, 08:34:22 PM »
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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2010, 08:58:41 PM »
I have edited my public statement page.


Yes, I thought you might.

Bill

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2010, 09:21:36 PM »
Really why are you here Paul??

What, you question people such as myself who work full time doing "free energy" research, who ask for COP measurements, lol?

I am here to find the truth. I have been at this forum for years and have stated very clearly that I will not accept any $ until my devices are proven and until the simpler designs are in public hands. I have made it very clear that only after it's in public hands that I will design more complex designs and sell them, but again that's *only* after the technology is in public hands and the simpler easier designs are open sourced and after it's been proven.

That means I cannot place Advertisements on my research website, which I have never done. It means I cannot sell anything related to "free energy". I have sold nothing related to "free energy."


I have not worked for like 7 years now because I spend all of my savings on living expenses so I can work full time on excess energy research to help all life on this planet.


As you can see, it is people such as Pirate88179 who do not show COP measurements, who attack me. Pirate88179 defends people such as gadgetmall who have posted claims of over unity while not doing any COP measurements, who is opposed to global warming, etc. And he lies about my public statement.

He's the one to watch out for. I show my COP measurements, as shown in the 1st post of this thread. I have nothing to hide. Why don't you ask Pirate88179 to post his PI license? He hides behind an anonymous name attacking people such as myself who post their first and last name, who show detailed COP measurements.

And I'll do a background exchange with anyone in this thread.

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2010, 09:35:11 PM »
WE(Alex and I ) now have all the parts and devices to each other and i am busy putting the Controller and device in a suitable container . Anyone interested in the Group who would like a GL controller circuit board please contact me . I have 19 for serious Experimenters only !Anyone looking for a Free ride and you got another thing coming ! I can confirm the device works and will submit one to Stephan in three months  after Alex and i test drive this baby .Again anyone interested to join in the fun Pm me and i will gladly give you a board and explain what is needed of board Members .The Circuit boards are free . The Experiment is not .

Gadget

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2010, 09:40:15 PM »

Gadgetmall, why not show your COP measurements?


btw, as a reminder to all, mylow (a well known faker) also spent a great amount of time & resources while never asked for $. Mylow is one of many examples, so this proves there are people who are not interested in making $, but who are interested in distracting from legit excess energy research.

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2010, 09:47:14 PM »
Paul,
My question to you is why even do a cop measurement?
We are not dealing with the elements that your meters are using.

Why not see how much you can get that is actually useful?
A lot of experimenters stop short IMO.
They do great research then show somebody a meter for proof.

IMO a meter is not proof. Turning the lights ON and timing that is proof.


I am not interested in learning what cop my jt circuits are, but I am very confident that they are performing. And that is because I can see them doing just that.
I make no claims, but how on earth's paradigm is a 1.2v battery lighting up a cfl when that same cfl needs to be boosted to turn on even when it is in a wall circuit.
OR again, how can a much less powerful jtc light 3 bulbs that have 20leds each. These bulbs are unmodified and made for 110 sinusoidal volts.

So, again I am not putting myself in this argument by calling it cop>1, but I am willing to say that it seems to be doing the impossible.

As for free... When it takes a few squeezes on a hand generator to recharge this AAA battery or a sunny afternoon, why bother making the claim? -- or rather, why fight about the claim?

thank you,

jeanna

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Re: Joule Thief replications - not overunity
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2010, 10:23:41 PM »

First, I would vote you as the only moderator for all Joule Thief threads.


Paul,
My question to you is why even do a cop measurement?
We are not dealing with the elements that your meters are using.

Why not see how much you can get that is actually useful?

But who said COP measurements are not about "useful" energy? COP deals with the total output & input. The load can be anything you want.

My COP measurements of gadgetmalls device used various loads to calculate the COP. Such loads consisted of a resistor, another time it was an LED, another time it was a bcap0650 ultracapacitor.



Showing endless youtube videos of how many LEDs or whatever you can light with a JT circuit is meaningless unless the goal is to just wow or mislead people.




I am not interested in learning what cop my jt circuits are, but I am very confident that they are performing. And that is because I can see them doing just that.
I make no claims, but how on earth's paradigm is a 1.2v battery lighting up a cfl when that same cfl needs to be boosted to turn on even when it is in a wall circuit.

I don't know if you insinuating that that's excess energy because it is not. It does not take much energy to light a cfl. Long long ago I've used a lot of various common circuits to do that.




OR again, how can a much less powerful jtc light 3 bulbs that have 20leds each. These bulbs are unmodified and made for 110 sinusoidal volts.

Sorry, but that's completely meaningless. Why don't you do a simple control experiment so see if it's special. That will also give you the COP. In fact, why don't you people do any control experiments. That's really bad and misleads people in huge way. I know you don't want to do that, I'm sure.



 

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