Jerry, you are right, we are looking into our mirrors... Noone is to blame more than ourselves. BUT it is important you know who is staring at you in the mirror(the jesuit demons) because the mirror picture is trying to hide away whilst deceving us all.... Is it a coincidence 95% of all news today is just negative news? There is a new convenient war started every year etc etc.... They feed on negative energy, low freqs. Just shut off the negatives and start working on yourself and raise your own freq and positive thinking is my idea.

Anyway, in this thread we went from finger pointing to finding a solution, that is a good step.

Jikwan, keep going with the book(yes, you need to read it repeatedly to make real progress, this is hard and painful, make no mistake, I know a bit about my shortcomings by now...). When you read chapter 2 you will be in for a surprise(third eye surprise)... , the book is invaluable, in 10 000 years no people could have that kind of information. Now we have it. There is a way if you are prepared to work hard.

About the water engine, I have a friend who told me his group converted 15 cars so far to water running. Yes, you heard me right and I believe it to be true beyond any doubts. Furthermore, the trick is so easy nobody(including me) got it, they just looked at resonances and electronics with coils etc being blinded by patents, gvmt agents in all forums etc.

Just use high temperature and pressure for HHO production and steam. Faraday efficiency goes straight up with temperature(just check Puharich´s patent for calculation). And yes the lubrication will come from the tiny part(maybe 2-5% moisture) of wet steam that we inject with dry steam and HHO. So no need to worry about rust. You will need a bubbler of course.

About the start up there is a problem unless you separate the HHO cell and the steam generator, that means you need a separate HHO dry cell for high pressure if you have no start up energy. In that case you can use a flash boiler à la Doble steam engine and the start up energy will not be a problem either. Just think carefully before doing anything.

Anyway, in my case I am pursuing an electric generator(2 HP) and I have a steam generator(not flash yet unfortunately), heat exchanger coil for exhaust gases is under construction, I would like to have a dry cell for high pressure, I don´t have it, just for normal pressure so far... Air inlet is whirled like Leo Umila dual GEET to create positive and negative charged air inlet to increase reaction, in this case I might get away with a low pressure HHO cell by whirling. The Leo Umila GEET is a major step forward.

Yes you are right HHO will ignite the steam, it is like a catalyzer burning very quickly, the harder material you use in the engine block the higher temp you get from the HHO burn.

There are a variety of factors coming into play here but steam+HHO is the right way to go, makes sense too using the vast heat energy from the exhaust pipe.

If you want to get rid of the lye I believe you can, just use soft rubber spacers between the plates so they can vibrate freely, the vibrations will transmit current wirelessly(Keely!)... The advanced people may use piezo for that, that was the real Meyer trick I reckon.

 Never mind, just build a simple one(flash steamer or normal steam boiler + dry cell for high pressure) first with chemicals and look for the other stuff later.

Best part of this is I believe you could charge water positive in this process. The current water we have is dead water which makes people sick. You could easily try magnets and water whirlers on your incoming tap water and you will notice a big difference in health. Water alkalizer is also good. Test it on your plants.

My current work is focused on water charging(with crystals and orgonite, experiences may get useful later, please check the cosmic engine model I made) and the water engine is a bit out of focus right now. I will get back to it - open source.

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I give you two more:

http://pureinsight.org/node/307

http://pureinsight.org/node/308

 

as i see it at the moment--its a comparative study of 2 systems
mine is totally guaranteed to work
yours works, (15 conversions) but theyre not releasing info about it
youve now got a lot of pioneering work to do due to not
getting formula from your friends
and i know very well the amount of time,effort,expense and hassle
pioneering work demands (2 HORSEPOWER elec motor?)
my system produces hho within half a second
yours? there MUST be a very good number of seconds waiting
for things to happen-especially in winter
i checked out doble and flashboilers
so far i can see many complications
it isnt as simple and straightforward
hell! everthing MUST be uniform and consistent in powering ICEngine
the first 3 mins of exhaust is cool
then after that its medium or really hot
its an unreliable heat source
so then what?
you got to sometime run your generator sometime not
sometime run it a long time sometime short
heat sensors, massive battery discharge,gas heaters, additional motors
and your going to insert a swirler inside the inlet manifold! ??
watercontainer for steam
different watercontainer for hho and diff solution
re-route exhaustpipe
quite a few sensors and guages and pioneering work

well, if you got time, tools, energy and money youll come up with a very
fine product

another thing--youre using a bubbler?
ive not seen anything much that produces more than 3 litres a min with bubbler
3 litres??? its a piddling amount
bubbler is super-safe but doesnt allow full vacuum
full vacuum=3 piddling litresx50

Jikwan, you now realize how easy it is to defeat evil?  About stress for a job interview, don´t worry(WuWei), if you are meant to get that job it is yours.

About your water engine, why not combine your system with my(or rather my friend´s) system? Doble in the 20s needed 30 secs to start his steam engine, I guess that could be acceptable in most cases even today. BUT as you say technically complex and explosion risk if you mess up.

So start up with HHO and add steam after a few minutes from a separate steam boiler? No matter if you have temperature jsut run on HHO and whirled air, the air inlet whirling will have immediate effect since a right or left whirling of air will ionize it no matter temperature(higher temp is extra beneficial).

This idea is super simple. Get a steam boiler and get an HHO dry cell for high pressure. At start up no steam and HHO is expensive to produce, as soon as pressure mounts efficiency goes overunity. If your HHO system is superb why not use it, just build it for high pressure? We can accept a few minutes of running with bad efficiency, still a huge progress against tech of today.

I must add my current focus is not this system(too tiresome(expensive) and slow to build at this stage, maybe this summer I can finish it).

Look at this one: http://guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/story/Kanarev/analysis/index.html


In my humble opinion, this is the easiest experiment for extreme OU you can do and a near future mass market app. Normal electrolysis with lye, 1% duty cycle, 135 Hz, 5V pulse. Water flow needed. Try 5 mm spacers and two circular plates with water inlet and water outlet. This experiment everyone should do... COP 42 is not bad... And then we still throw away the residual HHO, in fact we could use that too...

Compare the normal electric AC heater mounted on a baby swinger with this system. The AC heater(100% duty cycle) runs with the baby swinger back and forth while this system just push for 0.5% of the time at both ends. The rest of the time, we let the water do the work.

Each pulse will turn the water molecule(dipole turning according to positive and negative plates) causing friction inside the water, then we wait until it is stirred up again from the whirling, then we put another pulse. So easy and still we have not seen it.



Why don´t we look at the easy progress? If a professor gives us a detailed system with COP 42, should we not do that first??! Instead of messing with complex systems that have led us astray for so long. Each time anyone gets something OU working we will have huge progress. Just work open source, my sincere advice.

They like the JW leader saw an angel named Moroni ( I moron) and gave them both their visions during the same time????????? Same non biblical Katholic SUN System Of Lucifer worship that every MAN-MADE Religion upon this earth falls under. The Father nor His Son created religion, man did for power, oppression, money(carrot dangled before them) like the kingdoms offered to Jesus. Same Sun sacrifical blood death system since babylon. This is a planet of death which is a theatre unto the host that knew not what sin was; they as we are seeing what 6000 years under Lucifer//satan brings forth; thus, we shall NEVER want to sin ever again.  We must be heart sick for a place of righteousness where we will never be violated again.  No MAN is good. Stop by my site and do some real deep searching... lot there.                            Mike