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Author Topic: Eccentric Transformer theory  (Read 23252 times)

forest

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Re: Eccentric Transformer theory
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2010, 10:45:21 AM »
sorry,it's beyond my capabilities

but read http://www.scribd.com/doc/15818874/Valve-Amplifiers-Third-Edition page 262 of original book
and build rotating transformer based on it ,eliminating dangers

darkspeed

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Re: Eccentric Transformer theory
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2010, 10:52:11 AM »

armagdn03

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Re: Eccentric Transformer theory
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2010, 06:11:00 PM »
Thank you darkspeed. This is interesting....however I believe there are large differences. I am not going for distance. The idea is not to create a wireless technology, but rather to describe lenz like reactions with eccentric setups.

I have on more than one occasion flipped my coils to see their relationship to one another, emperically speaking there is absolutely no difference whatsoever which way they are wound. (I have about 10 of these coils all similar, and all i have to do to wind in a different direction is flip them over.)

The statement about the dipole in between was interesting. This is the very reason for induction and time constants. Each winding induces onto the the third dipole onto the next winding causing BEMF however if this dipole is given a path, say a secondary, the time constants and inductance tend towards zero. However, the Coriolis effect is largely a relativistic effect. To us, the observer on the spinning disk, the movement is different to the outside static observer. This might need to be taken into account a person were trying to build a receiver which picked up ambient energy but this is not the case. For example, say we are taking into account the Coriolis effect in conjunction with the two windings. Both windings will for all intensive purposes be sharing the same area within the Coriolis spin. We are dealing with a "quality of zero". Since ambient is always zero to the coils immersed in it, then whatever the transmitter sees, is also seen by the secondary simultaneously. Therefore the quality of the ambient background can be changing considerably, but to the two coils next to each other, there will be no relative potential differences. People often quote that the earth sits in a 5 tesla field, so much power, why can we not tap it? Because we are immersed in it, to us the 5tesla is zero, anything above or below it will want to return to 5 tesla and so represents a field gradient. To make use of this huge power, we need to ground ourselves to something outside this 5 Tesla field.

Also, there has from what I have learned never been a negation of lenz law in these or similar setups. There is always a "back talk" Even if the Q of the circuit drops from 100  to 99 that counts. As you get further and further from source, the back talk exponentially decreases, but is still present. A person cannot even get their hand within 4 feet of these guys without seeing a loading on the coil, the BEMF is there, and needs to be described.

One interesting effect is this....if the secondary is a resonant equivalent to the primary, back talk increases significantly, and the effect is reduced. That is because all resonant action within the secondary will be 180 out of phase with the primary, and so will work against it. What ever is not consumed by the load will be recirculated in the secondary causing a resonant rise, this will detract from what we want. Therefore we do not want the secondary to harmonically match the primary unless our load is perfectly matched also! this is a very different animal indeed than what that Tesla patent patent describes.

forest

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Re: Eccentric Transformer theory
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2010, 06:53:18 PM »
Wow! Thank you darkspeed! Now I clearly see how electricity flow in Tesla transmitter and receiver. Like a fluid out of gravity! Yes,Coriolis force apply to it.
This is conduction current without resistance and without gravity.Clever beast.
It spins right-hand creating vortex and enormous voltage which hits elevated capacitance. On receiver it spins the same way.
This is not induction - this is flow of fluid ! Magnetic current!
This pair works only on North hemisphere.

wings

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Re: Eccentric Transformer theory
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2010, 07:39:54 PM »
Wow! Thank you darkspeed! Now I clearly see how electricity flow in Tesla transmitter and receiver. Like a fluid out of gravity! Yes,Coriolis force apply to it.
This is conduction current without resistance and without gravity.Clever beast.
It spins right-hand creating vortex and enormous voltage which hits elevated capacitance. On receiver it spins the same way.
This is not induction - this is flow of fluid ! Magnetic current!
This pair works only on North hemisphere.

leaving the north hemisphere clockwise arriving south hemisphere counterclockwise?

forest

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Re: Eccentric Transformer theory
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2010, 08:32:20 PM »
wings,

This is interesting however I said only about how vortex can speed up electricity when coil embodiment match Earth local attributes.Apparently Tesla generator was unique, not such as we use today. The current thus produced acted as supeluminal fluid driven by Coriolis force to ekstreme  speed manifested itself as enormous voltages.

armagdn03

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Re: Eccentric Transformer theory
« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2010, 10:15:12 PM »
This has no relevance to this thread, please open a new thread for continued discussion down these lines.