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nitinnun

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Re: Global Warming Truth
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2010, 02:23:52 AM »
by the way.



the worlds climatosphere,
(i can type pretentious arbitrary words too !),
is profoundly convoluted and misleading.

it is influenced by hundreds of factors.
all of them constantly shifting,
in an extremely ambiguous way.

and any one of these factors,
could have countless unknown effects,
on any of the other factors.

which in turn kick each other in the teeth,
in countless more unpredictable ways.



the only certainty regarding the weather,
is that the more unstable the weather is,
the more mankind is disrupting the weather.

and the weather has been profoundly unstable,
over the last decade or 2.

there for,
mankinds disruption of the weather,
has vastly increased,
over the last decade or 2.
*gasp !*



unless you prefer to believe,
that the weather is becoming more unstable,
simply become it wants to become vastly more unstable.

in which case,
you have no reason to argue.
because how are you going to turn the above,
into a constructive,
enlightening argument ?



not that the recent record low temperatures in britain,
is not a sign,
that britain's location,
relative to the earths orbit,
is not suddenly becoming closer to the north pole.

AKA HAARP changing earths orbit.
to make norway the new north pole.



i'll admit,
that my suspicion of HAARP being used,
to altering the earths orbit,
depends entirely on how HAARP is to be used.

i'll also admit that the idea of britain,
turning into a russian-style popcicle-warehouse,
makes me smile.



nitinnun

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Re: Global Warming Truth
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2010, 02:31:06 AM »
nitinium:

So, this means we should ignore the facts and reality then?  OK, I see where you are coming from.

Bill



no.
it means that we should ignore you, pirate.

i will give you the honor,
of being the very first person,
to ignore your self.



by the way, pirate.
i still demand your immediate suicide.
so what is delaying you ?



Pirate88179

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Re: Global Warming Truth
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2010, 02:59:44 AM »


no.
it means that we should ignore you, pirate.

i will give you the honor,
of being the very first person,
to ignore your self.



by the way, pirate.
i still demand your immediate suicide.
so what is delaying you ?

Wow, this really shows where you are coming from.  I don't do suicides...sorry.

What a sorry post you just made.

Bill

ResinRat2

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Re: Global Warming Truth
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2010, 03:19:57 AM »
No pirate, I believe nitinnun is a perfect representation of what these global warming worshipers believe. This kind of attitude is why I fight them every chance I can will myself to do it.

If jokers like this guy and his ilk get in control it won't be live and let live. It will be live and all those that disagree with them should DIE!!

Feel free, nitinnun, to label me with the honor of being the second to ignore and call for my suicide. I will be sure to disappoint you as well.

sparks

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Re: Global Warming Truth
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2010, 03:37:29 AM »
   The Sun is directly connected to the Earth via interplanetary plasma.  Upon this interplanetary plasma are induced scalar waves generated by solar magnetohydrodynamic currents.  Large events on the solar surface or plasmasphere  (we got one too) are transmitted by the interplanetary plasma and this wave energy is totally neglected by our scientists.  We are just a pimple in the Solar atmosphere so if you are worrying about global warming being a manmade phenomenon your are saddly mistaken.  Earth and the Sun dont even know we are here.

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Re: Global Warming Truth
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2010, 03:57:14 AM »
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog

Yeah, well I guess the Weather Channel believes that global warming is a hoax as well.

They must be under the influence of BIG OIL (LOL)!

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Global Warming Truth
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2010, 04:16:47 AM »

*drags in dead horse and riding crop*

*leaves thread thoroughly entertained*


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Re: Global Warming Truth
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2010, 04:35:13 AM »
   Farmers almanac predicted this 50year event.  Very little solar activity.  It aint big oil anymore it is energy cartels.  If you believe that these companies are some kind of conspricy between governments of the world to enslave people that is your choice.  Its more like these are totally stupid people who find some kind of pleasure in looking at pieces of paper with markings on them that says they are rich.  Next step is go out and flaunt it.  Make everyone jealous.  Alienate everyone so you stand out in a crowd of other assholes doing the same shit.  Then after that do the facelift the clone  whatever makes them feel they can get an edge on nature.  Spend a lifetime keeping a certain image afloat.  Bad kharma man just bad kharma.
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Re: Global Warming Truth
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2010, 04:36:16 AM »
Cap:

Are you sure it is a dead horse?  Was the horse's condition reviewed by a group of QUALIFIED veterinary professionals?  Do we know for sure that these vets were not working for big oil?

You made a bold statement claiming this horse was dead, yet you did not post sources for this conclusion.  I looked it up on WIKI and it clearly says your horse is not dead.  It also went on to say that a dead horse could not be dragged as you CLAIM to have done.  I have a problem with all of these discrepancies.  Even though I do not understand it, I am confident that big oil is behind this, whatever it is.

Bill

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Re: Global Warming Truth
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2010, 04:37:17 AM »
OK, first you say 99 per cent, now it's 97 per cent of climatologists agree with the data. Which is it?

I never wrote 99%.



when you say I should read Wikipedia for the peer-reviewed facts, I have a problem with that. You say that Lord Monckton is a 'biased British politician'? where is your evidence for that? Beacause he disgrees with your point of view, that makes him 'biased'?

Because he does not deal with facts. He pushes ambiguous claims, which is not an scientific method. Math is a great tool because it gets people to agree on something, rather than arguing forever.




You are asking me to 'prove' that 97% of scientists are lying about the data. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying there is a substantial body of people that fundamentally disagree with your views.

I'm only interested in what scientists say, and over 97% say humanity is the significant cause to global warming. See the exact quote.


I'm done with you until you can show peer reviewed data. I have no further interest in your claims. I've posted the wikipedia links, which contain the references.



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Re: Global Warming Truth
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2010, 04:39:35 AM »
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog

Yeah, well I guess the Weather Channel believes that global warming is a hoax as well.

They must be under the influence of BIG OIL (LOL)!

First of all that writer did not say that. Second, that writer does not represent the weather channel. Please get your facts straight.

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Re: Global Warming Truth
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2010, 04:45:16 AM »
The University of IL is the leading experts in the world on ice and glaciers and their study shows that there is more ice on our planet now and more square miles of glaciers than at any other time in recorded history.  This study has been peer reviewed but I am sure since WIKI does not say so, it will not be believed.  I guess that entire University must work for big oil as well as the over 31,000 climate experts (Most of them holding PHD's in this field) that have signed the petition AGAINST man-made global warming.  There are way more PHD holding climatologists against global warming than agree with it so, how anyone can dare to call that a consensus is rediculous.

My state just had the coolest summer in recorded history last summer and this winter is well on its way to breaking all records also.  I just got done shoveling 6" of global warming off of my sidewalk and driveway. 

If someone wants to believe in the fairy tale of global warming, that's fine.  Just don't expect me to buy it OR pay for it with my hard earned tax dollars...because I will not.

Bill

To bad, as usual, you fail to show references. I've dealt with you too many times. Your #'s change. You can't get your data straight. And when you post references they are gibberish sites.



                       

         
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   31,000 scientists reject 'global warming' agenda
    'Mr. Gore's movie has claims no informed expert endorses'
   
Posted: May 19, 2008
8:51 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
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More than 31,000 scientists across the U.S. – including more than 9,000 Ph.D.s in fields such as atmospheric science, climatology, Earth science, environment and dozens of other specialties – have signed a petition rejecting "global warming," the assumption that the human production of greenhouse gases is damaging Earth's climate.
"There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate," the petition states. "Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth."

The Petition Project actually was launched nearly 10 years ago, when the first few thousand signatures were assembled. Then, between 1999 and 2007, the list of signatures grew gradually without any special effort or campaign.
But now, a new effort has been conducted because of an "escalation of the claims of 'consensus,' release of the movie 'An Inconvenient Truth' by Mr. Al Gore, and related events," according to officials with the project.

Wrong. Wikipedia details the investigations done with that petition. That petition is about as bad as science gets -->

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Warming_Petition_Project




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Re: Global Warming Truth
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2010, 04:51:53 AM »
nitinium:

So, this means we should ignore the facts and reality then?  OK, I see where you are coming from.

Bill


Bill, I've dealt with you so many times. IMO you clearly show your bad thinking process. Your experiments such as JT circuits are childish. You continue to push bad science without bothering to do simple control experiments or to show the detailed measurements for COP. You throw rocks at legitimate research such as Steorn.

Even a child can google and copy & paste a link from someone who agrees with you. That is bad science.

The facts is, over 97% of active publishing climatologist agree that *humanity* is a significant cause of global warming -->

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_consensus
"Over 97%[/color] of actively publishing climate scientists agree that human activity such as fossil fuel burning and deforestation is a significant contributing factor to global climate change[1]"

PaulLowrance

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Re: Global Warming Truth
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2010, 04:52:52 AM »
Record colds are being recorded. If stable climate is to be considered a fact, not even warming, we should have good extra-warm weather else where. Half the world has winter, half has summer. Are people being boiled on the Equator?
In Turkey, hundreds of mountain villages are cut off, not just from outside world, but also electricity. The country where you're supposed to get a nice warm winter stay at the beach :-)

I'm going to continue repeating this so long as you people keep trying to lie to the poor people at this forum -->

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Unscientific anti global warmest say the over the past year the planet is now cooling. That falls under the bad science category because it is impossible to obtain a global warming trend from averaging global temperatures from a few years, and the reason is due to global temperature fluctuations. Global temperatures have always fluctuated by significant amounts. Real scientists find the trend from decades of global temperatures, which clearly shows the global warming trend.

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Re: Global Warming Truth
« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2010, 04:55:43 AM »
No pirate, I believe nitinnun is a perfect representation of what these global warming worshipers believe. This kind of attitude is why I fight them every chance I can will myself to do it.

If jokers like this guy and his ilk get in control it won't be live and let live. It will be live and all those that disagree with them should DIE!!

Feel free, nitinnun, to label me with the honor of being the second to ignore and call for my suicide. I will be sure to disappoint you as well.

LOL, that's hilarious coming from you, one who's understanding of physics is laughable.