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Author Topic: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump  (Read 340128 times)

Spider

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #75 on: January 06, 2010, 06:12:56 PM »
thanks tony,


This is how i have done the secondary. dont know if its oke. Suggestions?

Ill be posting my results on overunityresearch.com, in my bench, so i wont clutter up your thread any further.

Spider

broli

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #76 on: January 06, 2010, 06:14:07 PM »
I don't fully understand the "channel" thing. Are you talking about the channels from a mosfet or a channel representing one coil setup? So three in this case being the secondary of the first hooked to the primary of a second setup and so on.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #77 on: January 06, 2010, 06:59:53 PM »
thanks tony,


This is how i have done the secondary. dont know if its oke. Suggestions?

Ill be posting my results on overunityresearch.com, in my bench, so i wont clutter up your thread any further.

Spider

Hello Spider, my friend,

You need spacing between each of the turns on your secondary, according to the instructions.  do not let the turns touch!   ;)

Cheers,

Bruce

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #78 on: January 06, 2010, 07:06:27 PM »
Hi Bruce,

I just read back some posts here and came across tony's advice yes.
I ll change it tommorow and hook it up to the IGBT's I have.

Are you replicating this too?

Spider

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #79 on: January 06, 2010, 07:15:34 PM »
Hi, the oblique felt tip line represents the inside wind of
the primary showing where the two primaries cross.The
horizontal felt tip lines represent the secondary coil
positions, is this correct.
regards, after many attempts hopefully this one works.

Bruce_TPU

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #80 on: January 06, 2010, 07:25:41 PM »
Hi Bruce,

I just read back some posts here and came across tony's advice yes.
I ll change it tommorow and hook it up to the IGBT's I have.

Are you replicating this too?

Spider

I am watching with "interest" for now along with some others.  We want to see some things a little more difinitive first before all hands on deck.

Cheers,

Bruce

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #81 on: January 06, 2010, 07:35:17 PM »
@Spider

The secondary is not ok. Use just 5-10 turnes, not more and start it from the top, finish it on the bottom with similar spaces you have between the primary turns.

I don't fully understand the "channel" thing. Are you talking about the channels from a mosfet or a channel representing one coil setup? So three in this case being the secondary of the first hooked to the primary of a second setup and so on.

I am about to use 3 primary coils and stay at the one secondary.

@Everybody

Please be patient, presently I am preparing with a complete video presentation for you, my request would be to read carefully the posts and ask your questions in this topic instead in emails and PMs on my youtube channel.

I was not prepared for the crowd, just wanted to disclose the things as Stefan requested. He said the sooner it's out the better.

The more questions others can answer the quicker I can finish the presentation. :)

Thank you again. :)

PaulLowrance

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #82 on: January 06, 2010, 07:38:15 PM »
It's good to always be objective at first and give the claim a chance,
so I'll wait for agent gates to mail Stefan the proof and we'll see if
Stefan gives it a thumbs up. Until then I'll be building Steorn replications.

Magluvin

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #83 on: January 06, 2010, 07:51:40 PM »
Jox 

What you have there came before the question I was about to ask.

Are the inside primary, outside primary and the secondary cross overs all need to be in the same dot?

up until now, I and spider assumed, as you can see our secondaries, this kind of spacing wasnt in the ingredient list. Especially when we see that 2 turn pic by tony, it doesnt seem like any spacing there and the yellow secondary setup are only separated by insulation of the wire. Unless we both missed that one and previous to our pic showings a post stated that. or it wasnt clear at the time as to this.

So at every intersection 2 primaries and 1 secondary cross, except for where there are no secondary due to tony says few sec. are needed.   
So is this to say that when a primary crosses a primary where there is no secondary intersection, there is a positive interaction of the 2 primaries in that cross even though a secondary isnt in that cross?  Do these primary only intersection points affect the primary adversly, thus causing the over heating of the fets?
I say this cuz I thought the objective is to get a positive thing going in the secondary.

A simple way to say it is do we need the excess primary crossings that dont have a secondary crossing?
Can we just have a 1 in tall tube that has 45deg primary turns that only have 1 primary to primary crossing points that are all 1/2 in up on the tube then just have 1 secondary turn crossing those dots or points?

Im just wondering if those extra primary to primary crossings that dont have a secondary crossing them are necessary.  And are they a hindrance?  Or do those extra P2P points still affect a secondary winding that is not even near that lone P2P point.

I see Jox is making good use of all of those points, and I give him daps for that line of thinking. Good work there! =]

Magluvin


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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #84 on: January 06, 2010, 08:27:11 PM »

Step 3......redo the secondary coil ;)



Spider

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #85 on: January 06, 2010, 08:36:43 PM »
Looks good Spider!  I just wish you would have wound the primary with smaller mm wire, as Tony suggested.  Larger wire on secondary makes sense. 

What diameter is your PVC form?

Kind regards,

Bruce

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #86 on: January 06, 2010, 08:38:57 PM »
@Spider

Very nice work! Give it pulse or wave and watch the output. It will be a nice dome and will be no RF noise. When you get the pulses/domes closer to each other the conception of the 3 primary coil version will be obvious. ;)

Keep on sending the results.

@Everyone
I am on the way with the 3-channeled driving circuitry with easy to buy devices. I don't want to use special parts. Also cutting the vids and keep documenting.

Spider

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #87 on: January 06, 2010, 08:52:22 PM »
Diameter is 100 mm, higth 60 mm , wire is 0,8mm both.
Sorry Bruce, had no thinner wire laying around. :)
Maybe for the next one, takes just litle time to make these things.
Next one 350 mm diameter LOL ;)


Looking forward to your vids en pics Tony.


Spider

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #88 on: January 06, 2010, 09:46:39 PM »
Hi Toni,
Congratulations, if it is all true. Don't forget to shield everyting properly. You do not know it it is emmiting anything.
 
dani

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #89 on: January 06, 2010, 10:52:07 PM »
@all

Did anyone tried 15 degree ?

The field cross at 90 degree , but at a angle of +/- 15 degree .