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Author Topic: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump  (Read 340141 times)

agentgates

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2010, 04:05:17 AM »
@wattsup

Thanks for the reply. Yes indeed, we built so many coils that was almost like a lifestyle. :D
And don't worry, now I'll finish this thing in a couple of days and when I have the multiple channels I will get rid of the IGBTs and the heatsink and I'll tickle the electrons to keep them flowing continously. Actually we will get almost a stable DC output at whatever load.

@Magluvin

Very nice coil! Hook it up, but make sure you use well oversized FETs and NO flyback diodes to save the DC PSU. The power drop will be high on the primary side due to Lenz law, will need to decrease the turns on the secondary and keep spaces between them. It has to look like a twisted fishing net and the primary-secondary have to cross each other only on a tiny "dot then space and dot and space again" manner. It will acually create an "electron tornado" in the secondary wire and the spontanous electron flow is only a by-product which we will use.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2010, 04:25:03 AM »
Tony,

Thanks for responding. In connecting two of the primaries I was thinking of increasing output. Anyway have you tried the primary wrapped over the secondary? Or have they been just wrapped over the outside of the primary coil?

as to the right handed coil versus left handed, I am speaking to the direction in which you wind the coil, for instance look at your right hand palm facing down fingers away and relaxed, the thumb indicates the direction you wind in and the fingers indicate the wire direction when looping over the form. So in a right handed coil the wire startsby going over the top and to the left.

I asked about this since it seems that your primary was wound opposite or in a left handed manner, i.e. wire wrapped over the top when starting and moving to the right as you go around the form.

I also noticed that the secondary is wound in a right handed manner (this is what the picture shows for the one you made for Stephen I think

http://www.samsonium.org/sites/default/files/P1030244.JPG

Just trying to help understand your design so please feel free to correct anything I may have incorrect.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #47 on: January 06, 2010, 04:53:13 AM »
Hi agentgates,

congratulations in your findings but most of all, congratulations for choosing to publicly share your finding.

Looking forward in seeing more of your results.

Thanks for Sharing

Luc
« Last Edit: January 06, 2010, 05:41:38 AM by gotoluc »

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #48 on: January 06, 2010, 05:04:25 AM »
Thank you very much for sharing Agentgates. Congratulations!

Minde

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2010, 05:18:42 AM »
Looks good!  I will be following this with much interest.  Here are a couple of YouTube videos from agentgates' channel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdrHAttl-ro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omwTNfIlmFw

looks like these are different coil designs, and they light the bulbs for only a second.  If there's a problem with the transistors blowing, I echo the thoughts of some others here:  why not use protection diodes across the fets to block or redirect the bemf?

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #50 on: January 06, 2010, 05:28:19 AM »
Looks good!  I will be following this with much interest.  Here are a couple of YouTube videos from agentgates' channel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdrHAttl-ro

This was a fake by user EMdevices....
and this
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omwTNfIlmFw

was a fake by user Marco.

@zerotensor
Why do you try to twist the facts ?

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #51 on: January 06, 2010, 05:39:13 AM »
This was a fake by user EMdevices....
and this
was a fake by user Marco.

@zerotensor
Why do you try to twist the facts ?

Oh my, I wasn't twisting intentionally!  I just searched youtube for "agentgates" since he said he had a youtube channel, and that's what popped up.

I hope we're not dealing with yet another hoax here.  The videos are dated "three days ago" so i thought this was the same "agentgates" here, the OP.  I am confused.  maybe its marco or EM back in disguise??  i don't know.  Still, I will watch this closely & hope for the best.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2010, 05:43:31 AM »
Hmm,
I will ask him by email,
if it is really his channel.
Maybe he just "collected" these 2 videos there ?

zerotensor

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #53 on: January 06, 2010, 06:30:27 AM »
I found in the comments posted by agentgates on youtube this:
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"Hi, I heard this is a replica of the original device. Do you know anything about how they did it? Thanks."

referencing a different copy of the em video.  It is dated 6 days ago, so it seems that he has indeed "mirrored" these videos on his channel--

@agentgates:  you might want to modify the description on these vids you host on your channel (assuming it belongs to you) to make it clear that this is not your work, lest you be unduly associated with these previous dramas already played-out here on overunity.com.

This little wrinkle has definitely made me pull my "skeptic hat" a little tighter around my ears.  The fact that the only two videos posted on this channel are exactly the two most successful TPU jokes in the history of this forum gives me pause.  I will suspend judgement and see how this plays-out.

I still am pulling for ya, Tony.  I'm looking forward to seeing more of your work!
« Last Edit: January 06, 2010, 07:48:32 AM by zerotensor »

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #54 on: January 06, 2010, 09:30:15 AM »
HI ALL
 I'm sorry.
 I apologize questions touch theme ! 
          [google translate]
« Last Edit: January 06, 2010, 04:03:34 PM by havuhung »

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #55 on: January 06, 2010, 09:59:36 AM »
@ agentgates:
Thanks for paying attention to my previous posting, despite of the pressure on your findings is so high.

An attempt to visualize the setup a bit more, from my views after reading this thread.
Below circuit is my understanding, please indicate whether it is correct or not.
Maybe we can help in improving.

There are a few fundamental issues that seems not easy to solve.
It also seems to me that with peak voltages on the output only, this system is not yet OU.

Is there someone that understand the reason for the large dissipation in the FETs?
My personal view is that using square wave pulses, the coils will only transform the energy during the waveform transitions, while the FETs consume power during the whole 'on' time of the positive input period.

Not using a fly-back diode will force at least one of the three FETs to consume significant power for a short period of time, since not all three FETs will switch off at the same time, due to small differences between the three.



« Last Edit: January 06, 2010, 10:34:25 AM by teslaalset »

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #56 on: January 06, 2010, 01:56:38 PM »
Tony
Quote:

@wattsup

Thanks for the reply. Yes indeed, we built so many coils that was almost like a lifestyle.
And don't worry, now I'll finish this thing in a couple of days and when I have the multiple channels I will get rid of the IGBTs and the heatsink and I'll tickle the electrons to keep them flowing continously. Actually we will get almost a stable DC output at whatever load.

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Put that together with a nice elec motor and I'll throw that ICE in the dumpster!!

Hook another up to the oven and put the furnace with the ICE

Chet

ICE=Internal Combustion Engine [sorry for the confusion bourne]
To much time in the hydrogen forums [this will be MUCH better]
« Last Edit: January 06, 2010, 02:55:53 PM by ramset »

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2010, 02:11:25 PM »
Please Help.

1.  How does he get from the First Photo Build to the Bottom one?

2.  Where did the Copper Wire disappear to?  It CAN’T possibly be under the Insulated wire, because how can the insulated wire be wound inside the coil form without falling out?

3.  Are these 2 DIFFERENT TPUs, or the same one??

Please advise.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #58 on: January 06, 2010, 02:19:03 PM »
Please Help.

1.  How does he get from the First Photo Build to the Bottom one?

2.  Where did the Copper Wire disappear to?  It CAN’T possibly be under the Insulated wire, because how can the insulated wire be wound inside the coil form without falling out?

3.  Are these 2 DIFFERENT TPUs, or the same one??

Please advise.

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 They are two different ones.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #59 on: January 06, 2010, 02:28:13 PM »
HI ALL
I wonder why Steven Marks was very long and Company "UEC" was sold to those who need to buy this TPU or not? . . .   
                                                [google translate]

Sorry Havuhung whatever you are trying to say has not translated very well. It makes no sense.

Also, while I am at it, Ramset your post is very cryptic. Where do Ice and ovens come in to it :) I must be missing something, I must have!

@ Fatbird, The second pic is 'unfinished' as far as the primary winding goes.

And finally to Agentgates, Well done and thank you for having such a great attitude.

bourne