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Author Topic: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump  (Read 283301 times)

Offline ramset

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #810 on: January 23, 2010, 04:31:37 AM »
Mark
Thank you
I will watch again keeping your explanation in mind.
Quote;
feeding it self.

Do you feel some part is grabbing power from
a source other than the battery /power supply?

Chet
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1000 turns plus!!!
OUCH!!
It is much brighter inside the coil?

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #811 on: January 23, 2010, 04:40:16 AM »
@ramset

It means basically that any type of circuit using a toroid capable of coupling with the outer core will run of the main , a low voltage circuit could run in closed circuit.

The circuit could be a low voltage joule thief charging a cap to feed the source .

So the circuit placed in the center either runs for free , or lower amps needed , or be used to recharged source.

I have monitored over 20 volts out of the coil.

Mark

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #812 on: January 23, 2010, 04:48:13 AM »
Mark
Have you seen this behavior before with that little beauty .[extra fine coil
can't believe 1000 turns[I do ]]

Chet

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #812 on: January 23, 2010, 04:48:13 AM »
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #813 on: January 23, 2010, 04:55:56 AM »
Mark
Have you seen this behavior before with that little beauty .[extra fine coil
can't believe 1000 turns[I do ]]

Chet

I tough about using it yesterday , to see if i could some how learn about the Gate new coil symmetry , so it is still pretty new , the hotest spot is in the middle , edge top and bottom , and the edges .

SO over all a nice tool , and a fun toy. 

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #814 on: January 23, 2010, 10:06:39 AM »
Hi Mk1,

thanks for your video.

I am working with coils which are wound in a similar way as the one in your video. I call them 'vortex coils' others call them '360° Rodin coils'. I am powering the primary/ies with a square wave generator.
http://www.elv.de/output/controller.aspx?cid=74&detail=10&detail2=6325&flv=1&bereich=&marke=

I presume that in your video you power your primary with a resonant oscillator. Can you point me to a circuit diagram of the oscillator you use?

To clarify: I don't want to power the 'primary vortex coil' from a joule thief. I want to power it straight from an oscillator. Is this what you have done in the video? If so, please point me to a circuit diagram.

note: I am not an electronics expert (in spite of having bought a scope a while ago).

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #815 on: January 23, 2010, 09:36:06 PM »
The type of coupling Mark uses, if I understand his coils correctly, is not the traditional magnetic coupling/induction.  Instead, this is better understood by looking at the magnetic vector potential fields, denoted as 'A' in most literature. 

This A potential field around a toroid resembles the magnetic field around a loop, where the loop is the toroid.  Just another way of looking at EM fields.

EM

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #816 on: January 25, 2010, 12:44:49 PM »
@oscar

Sorry i am still using the jt for now , but soon will start testing mosfet , maybe on a small one at first 2n7000.

Some more testing do , with a small version of the gate coil.

http://www.youtube.com/user/abramrk1#p/a/u/0/OyiY-N1Ha5A


EM , A field sounds about right.

Mark

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #817 on: January 25, 2010, 01:49:33 PM »
Mark
Thanks for the movie!

Seems like you enjoy playing in those fields :]

Its is good to Know you have j t experience.

Seems like a good baseline to measure progress.

Looking forward to your other findings

thanks for sharing

Chet


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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #818 on: January 26, 2010, 01:46:20 AM »
@all

Some of my friend started replicating , pvc pipe seems to not work at 1.5 volts. And to me this is a no go. Not good enough at 1.5 is still not good enough at 9v...

I would also not use it on any agent gates replication.

Cardboard tube , are great and light , most of them you get for free ...

I have posted more details in the jule thief tread. if you can ignore IST.


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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #819 on: January 26, 2010, 03:33:38 AM »
Mk1  Would you say that having the inner primary and the outer primary, both on the outside of a pvc tube using pins around the top and bottom, should be ok then?  Or do you think the plastic itself is causing an issue?

This was a question of mine all along. From what you are stating, the inner primary is separated from the outer by the thickness of the pvc tube more than a cardboard tube. So maybe there is an even greater advantage by eliminating that thin space for the cardboard tube, and having the primaries wrapped just to the outside of a pvc tube.

Maybe  =]

Mags

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #820 on: January 26, 2010, 03:38:14 AM »
I bought the sewer pvc which is at least 1/2 as thick as the schedule 40 that I have seen here. Do you think it's a thickness thing or a material thing?

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #821 on: January 26, 2010, 03:42:59 AM »
@all

Many test would need to be done before knowing for sure , but i have seen my share to coil on pvc not doing much , so maybe test on cardboard and plastic type , thickness maybe or deflective surface.

I am staying clear of those .

Mark

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #822 on: January 26, 2010, 04:34:59 AM »
Very good point fellows
Card board was what Tony specified??

Chet

Actually Card board is all Tony ever uses in this thread !

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #823 on: January 26, 2010, 08:30:28 PM »
Very good point fellows
A was what Tony specified??

Chet

Actually Card board is all Tony ever uses in this thread !

Mark , Chet and all.

I agree with not using PVC pipe as there are numerous mention of it in some of my Ham radio -home brew antenna articles (winding coils for antennas) where they state that PVC has many contaminents in them - mostly carbon etc. so don't use them.

I also found a source of heavy cardboard type tubes at Home Depot--used for pouring cement down and around fenceposts and deck footings and such. The smallest dia . I saw was 5.5 inches and they progressively get larger to about 20 or 24 inches or so, trouble is they come in 6 to 8 foot long pieces --enough to make coils for everyone in the neighbor hood. Anyway I'll grab some of that 5.5 inch stuff and have a go at it as I think Mark is really on to something here. Keep up the good work Mark
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #824 on: January 26, 2010, 08:54:00 PM »
PAR
Thanks
It is good to use something passive [no carbon etc .surprises]

Going to check a local fabric supplier for empty cardboard rolls/tubes
Seems like we should be able to get these free somewhere?
I hope to stick as close as possible to Tony's original post.

Chet


 

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