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Author Topic: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump  (Read 294591 times)

Offline xee2

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #750 on: January 18, 2010, 11:53:51 PM »
@ Mannix

Edit ..my post spelling changes after i post it???what the ???

Please add your complaint to the "Forum editor has problem" thread. Maybe if enough people complain something will be done about it.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #751 on: January 19, 2010, 12:40:13 AM »
Nice job MK1!

What is the output and input power levels?  Also what is the bulb rated at?

The output is , about 80 volts i would say , i use a 1.3 volt aa regular cell.

The bulb i really can't tell , i got it from salvaging a old 70 radio , it is blinding bright on a 9v battery. It barely lights from the battery it self , i would say its 2 to 3 times brighter on the secondary. At the CE if i rectify it i get around 40 volts.


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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #752 on: January 19, 2010, 12:50:03 AM »
I went through all of Agent Gates’s posts & SUMMARIZED the most important points to see if it helps us out.


1.  In this manner the secondary wire will provide DC current.

2.  Thinner primary and more turns on the secondary. One IRFP460 driving them. No significant heat.

3.  Try all 3 Phases in 1-2-3 and 3-2-1 SEQUENCE, also change positive and negative and please share us your results.

4.  Output peak goes to 153V. No significant drop on it after connecting the 250V/50W halogen light bulb. Only a few volts.

5.  This gluing thing really screwd up my plans but the 2x200V secondary is on now. I need one more side to glue and a 3rd secondary for the electronics to make it self running.

6.  I remembered when I started the TPU research I had coil that worked but I have successfully caused a thousand pound damage in my lab during the research and I couldn't work for nearly a year on it.

7.  They are not only stronger but a lot more spikes when you drive all 3 coils.  I put a 50W 240 halogen bulb on it. They just don't care about your load. By only increasing the input voltage the spikes are coming closer and closer a bit, some kind of spin-up effect.

8.  When you will drive the 3 coils, please make sure you start it from low frequency and increase it slowly as the spikes will come closer and closer. If they rapidly merge your coil may blow up.  I have had one Melt Down on me already.

9.  Also they will be far stronger when you'll fire the 2 other coils in sequence.  The loads seems to have little or no effect on the primary accelerator circuit.  If this device can be synchronized with itself it seems many things might be possible.

10.  Don’t use a high frequency.  Stay in a FIXED lower range (e.g. 100Hz or 1kHz). Driving them at LOW FREQUENCY works best!  It is not a radio device.

11.  Not critical, depending on your load. It is nothing but a performance multiplier transformer where the output is the sum of the input and the extracted energy. You can use it in a wide range from 100Hz to 1MHz if you have a well-shielded room as there is radio broadcasting in the higher frequency ranges and at that power you can disturb it.

12.  Today when I built the device I found that the energy moves in the device is far above 1kW, the only obstacle that it comes out where you would never expect it: it doesn't heat the coil at all, they remain cold but cooks the switching FET on the primary coil nearly instantly.

13.  Yes. There are 2 ways to make it SPIN.  You can give it a single big spike and many tiny ones to keep it rotating. The other solution is simpler: start slapping it up with higher voltage and when you reached the demanded output voltage just keep it up with the tiny slaps. It only takes a few mA to keep it spinning, not more.

14.  The second is easier to keep the circuitry simple. You only need a variable input voltage, but a fixed voltage will also work. But perhaps you will need to wait a couple of seconds while it spins up. (The JET-turbine effect that SM mentioned) Actually you will be able to vary the output with the frequency alteration but that will be not that efficient. (for now it is enough, you need the variable input only if you want the maximum from your device.

15.  Here’s what I mean.  If your device over runs, the spikes might merge to a huge spike. What we are doing here is like laying a brick one to another, while the other side (your load on it) removes some bricks from the top. All you need to do is to keep the level on the required level. If you let it create too much (too big spike) that is a high voltage and high current spike and has a huge electromagnetic effect on your coil.  The same thing that SM mentioned with the little 5 year old guy and the blown up TV that created so big of an electromagnetic field that pulled nails out of walls towards the screen (killed the guy) and other weird things.

16.  Yes of course I have already made a coil for you yesterday that naturally you can keep. The one I mentioned puts out 190V to the 50W for ~30 seconds before you can smell the plastic on it, so it's a bit below 50W and since I don't have light bulb for 1W handy at the moment to verify the requirements I decided to build a larger device for you that comfortably supply usable energy. Before I send it I will also video it and upload it to my youtube channel.

17.  Yes, I noticed that yesterday on the large one I built for Stefan the primary is cooler than both the ambient and the secondary coil. The secondary is about on room temperature. It is the sign of created inertia and gravitational force. so if you have multiple primary coils and shoot them after each other that would feel a shooting inertia and gyro effect that SM's withnesses felt.

18.  Today when I built your device I found that the energy moves in the device is far above 1kW, the only obstacle that it comes out where you would never expect it: it doesn't heat the coil at all, they remain cold but cooks the switching FET on the primary coil nearly instantly.


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« Last Edit: January 19, 2010, 02:37:31 AM by FatBird »

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #752 on: January 19, 2010, 12:50:03 AM »
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #753 on: January 19, 2010, 01:47:39 AM »
Found this  while looking at TPU videos on you tube. Maybe it's nothing but it caught my attention.

dreamyear (1 month ago)

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look up my previous video..it's all there

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Hi, I heard this is a replica of the original device. Do you know anything about how they did it? Thanks.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #754 on: January 19, 2010, 02:25:20 AM »
@MK1

Thanks for ansewering my questions!  I'm glad you are working on this as you can help the JT folks in design as well as me if I pick it up....still thinking about it! but it seems to have potential...I'm just not sure if I want to start on some othe ideas I have had.  ANyway you doing some great work as usual.   I know i have not had much input on the JT topic but I am still following.   ;D

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #755 on: January 19, 2010, 02:28:19 AM »
Ok  just got out of the cave and I beat this into shape with some rocks and an elephant tusk.  Ooo oo

Im just going on a hunch. About to hook it up.

Be back in a bit

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #756 on: January 19, 2010, 02:34:36 AM »
@ Magluvin

SUPER GOOD HUNCH Magluvin.  I was wondering the same thing!!!!


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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #757 on: January 19, 2010, 02:48:51 AM »
Thanks Fatbird

Its 10 turns secondary of 16ga and the primary 114 turns 24ga. The primary is a single coil but the first go round had spaces twice as large as what you see and the second round is in those spaces, so it is a bifi in series. I figured that as long as the spaces between individual turns was 1/4 in, the other round should be ok in between and maybe thats what a bifi is all about. Im hookin it up too the cave setup as we speak, err post.  =]

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #758 on: January 19, 2010, 03:32:04 AM »
Hey Magluvin,

great work man. Make a video as the usual!

Fausto.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #759 on: January 19, 2010, 03:51:57 AM »
Welp  waiting for the soldering iron to heat up. The mayan's would be scared of me because of how many reeds I have sacrificed.  Was messing me up. The blue glow wasnt there but lots of thunderstorms in the source oscillator. Then the reed went into a crying sweep in freq but little output.  It has some build up between the contacts.

Be done soon.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #760 on: January 19, 2010, 04:20:15 AM »
Hi Magscave,
please try to use 2 Reed switches in series.
This will make faster current cutoffs, dI/dt will be faster and give you more induction kickback voltage.
ALso it will save a few Reed Switches.

Good luck.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #761 on: January 19, 2010, 04:28:07 AM »
Movies,

I love the movies!!
I heard there was a good mystery playing here tonight.

But this one looks like a THRILLER!

Hope he doesn't burn the film with that bright light!!


Are they gonna give us sunglasses??


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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #762 on: January 19, 2010, 06:01:44 AM »
Ok well I did a vid, and it shows that the led is very bright on the secondary. But I need to go mosfet and 555 from here. I need to have consistancy. The way the reeds are sticking and firing kind of erratically, the demonstration is broken up. The new reed in the relay, I changed them both, isnt working the same as the other. I used a bigger activator mag there and when the relay coil reed is latched, the led on the seondary is lit from the bemf being stored into the cap, but as I take the mag away she fires that led up.  But I want to do this thing better with some fets.

New coil demo   it isnt processed yet so may not be clear at first  just loaded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMlrbjOUsW4

This is an led burning up on oscillator bemf, just did it and was surprised how long it burned.  boring but I caught clear vid inside the led.  My camera, I have to pre focus then record, so thats why it is dull till we see in the led.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ISJWYHPaTQ

I will try that Stefan Thanks.   I think that the duty cycle needs to be more than what Im producing.  Cant tell till I get a scope. But saving the reeds would be a good thing.  =]   SRF   Save the reed foundation 

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #763 on: January 19, 2010, 08:34:40 AM »
Hi wings and all,

summary: I found that the kind/brand of switching device I use has a big influence on the output. It is probably a good idea to try different ones. I think they "resonate differently". Thus the light output on the secondary is different for each one.

details:
From my square wave generator I go straight into the switching device and then straight into the primary. I tried three different switches (haven't got any other ones):
IRF540N
2N3055
BU508D (out of an old TV)
Each one gives a different result. For me the BU508D works best.

I power them from a 12 V car battery and use a 21W car light bulb as a load in series with the primary coil.

My signals look just like the ones wings posted here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8586.msg223711#msg223711
Top trace is primary, lower trace is secondary, isn't it?

On the secondary I can light leds and make small filament lightbulbs glow. In my setup this happens between 1 kHz and 5 kHz. At the critical frequencies the input current goes down and the lightbulb in the primary circuit gets dim/extinguished.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #764 on: January 19, 2010, 01:32:12 PM »
....made it from a Toilet Paper  roll so i call it a TP Unit  ;).
Hi Mk1,

I wound it on sewage pipes, so I consider the SPU my intellectual property, and should you ever infringe on it, your lawyers will hear from mine.

The depicted setup is as described in my previous post.

The light bulb is lit across the "speaker cord secondary" which is located in the ring.
Got the idea from FatBird, but ended up connecting the two strands of the cord in parallel, so it is not bifilar, as per his recommendations. Gives me better results that way.
But need to experiment further.

The leds are lit from the end of the original secondary. That original secondary is wound 'agentgates style' and the leds are attached only to one end of that secondary via an AV plug (Avramenko plug). This AV plug is grounded.
The other end of the 'agentgates secondary' is free, i.e. not connected to anything.

The signal on the scope is from the 'speaker cord secondary' with probe across the filament bulb, 5 V per div.

 

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