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agentgates

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #525 on: January 13, 2010, 01:16:12 PM »
@Otto

Thank you, I am on it. ;)

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #526 on: January 13, 2010, 02:05:00 PM »
Same Here, keep us posted ;) and again, thanks for sharing with us.

Peace

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #527 on: January 13, 2010, 02:14:45 PM »
Wow ! Thanks oscar.
I will spend a few hours studying that. (and I hate mathematics)  ;D



Hi,

those who thinks about the winding geometry of this device may want to consider this posting from energeticforum.com
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4587-marko-rodin-15.html#post77884

In his follow up postings user 'rococo' also supplied drawings of the different patterns. Unfortunately you can only see the drawings when you are logged into the forum.

Hope this is not too far off topic.

altair

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #528 on: January 13, 2010, 02:25:30 PM »
@ agentgates,
nice work, man.
In your next device, try just spray painting the coil with clear acrylic instead of using epoxy. That will bond the wires to the tube and nicely keep them in place.
You can also use cyanoacrylate to tack starting and ending points of small wire on primaries, and then spray paint.

I can't wait to hear about your results.

Altair

EDIT:  to all, if you decide to use paint (or anything in a spray can) on a plastic tube, make some tests beforehand.
Some plastics impede the curing of paints, or get adversely affected by chemicals.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2010, 03:23:08 PM by altair »

Magluvin

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #529 on: January 13, 2010, 03:31:24 PM »
Ah some new info finally.  Masturbation is necessary!  And the freq can be anywhere from 100 hz n up!

Ok tony  im waiting, winky in hand    lol

Good luck  And if the results are low on the standard, please just show it anyway, lay it on the line so we can help in proceeding.  =]

Mags

plengo

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #530 on: January 13, 2010, 04:18:47 PM »
I am going to buy Campaign bottle to celebrate. Agents where do I ship one for you? PM me please.

Fausto.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #531 on: January 13, 2010, 05:13:44 PM »
@AgentGates

I'm no electronics expert but I do a lot of coding in many different languages and systems and something is screaming out at me here that I'm sure would assist this testing process.

I'm sure one of the many talented electronics wizards here can create a simple circuit to send a detectable signal back to one of the Arduino inputs when and if your design produces the desired OU output. If so you could put an outer loop in the Adruino pulse code to increment / decrement the individual delays on the primary(s) which would automate the whole testing process. Many different intervals could be tested for periods of say 5 seconds and then changed. Any signal detected on the Arduino input could be logged in a file for further testing perhaps by other members who have recreated your designs.

This system could then be left almost indefinitely automatically trying different timings on the primary(s).

I'm sure I could assist with coding this if you need it.

Good luck and keep at it.

Jonah.

agentgates

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #532 on: January 13, 2010, 05:47:06 PM »
@Jonah

Hello and many thanks for your kind offer to help with Arduino. It would be handy as many of these guys don't have other than Arduino and presently I can not dedicate time to figure out Arduino's deep secrets. :(

As for me I have a programmable HF waveform/pattern generator with 500MHz internal clock speed and 12 bit pulse output 6 input so I can work with it faster than with Arduino but I am sure they would be very glad to your help.

@All

The last primary is on and the las layer of glue is drying. In the meantime I solder the terminations and finish the programming on the pattern generator. (that is not a big deal)

@broli

I showed your amazing 3D presentation to a friend of mine and I noticed something. On your pics you have 4 large spheres indicating the first primary winding at every 90 degrees, however it should be 120 with 3 spheres. I think you misunderstood the 45 degrees thing. :) The 45 degrees is measured on the side of the coil, so you need 60-60 degrees around. May I ask you to please put a note on it on your website as presently we don't know if a coil would work in the expected way with those parameters. (Naturally we will find out later on)

I think many people got confused here with their coils. For those who have problems with results, here is the formula again how to calculate the length of the tube to get the 45 degrees:

l = (d x PI) / 6

"l" gives the length of tube to cut

broli

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #533 on: January 13, 2010, 05:54:42 PM »
@broli

I showed your amazing 3D presentation to a friend of mine and I noticed something. On your pics you have 4 large spheres indicating the first primary winding at every 90 degrees, however it should be 120 with 3 spheres. I think you misunderstood the 45 degrees thing. :) The 45 degrees is measured on the side of the coil, so you need 60-60 degrees around. May I ask you to please put a note on it on your website as presently we don't know if a coil would work in the expected way with those parameters. (Naturally we will find out later on)

I think many people got confused here with their coils. For those who have problems with results, here is the formula again how to calculate the length of the tube to get the 45 degrees:

l = (d x PI) / 6

"l" gives the length of tube to cut

Yes this is why I'm remaking the renditions. In time I will upgrade all the images.

agentgates

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #534 on: January 13, 2010, 06:01:02 PM »
@broli

Oh many thanks for it and for your instant reply. :)

onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #535 on: January 13, 2010, 06:04:04 PM »
How do you get a lazy conservative slave(Electron) to do work? you crack the whip on it(Wavelength), to make it work more efficient you must speak the same language(Frequency), the amplitude of your voice makes it more demanding.

I hope this analogy is helpful.

Jerry ;)

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #536 on: January 13, 2010, 06:11:47 PM »
How do you get a lazy conservative slave(Electron) to do work? you crack the whip on it(Wavelength), to make it work more efficient you must speak the same language(Frequency), the amplitude of your voice makes it more demanding.

I hope this analogy is helpful.

Jerry ;)

That is nice. :) What exactly happening in subatomic level is not 100% clear. I have a theory that I will try to make solid in the nex couple of days, until then I wouldn't push it hard to get people confused if that wouldn't fit. But what is already sure is that we spin them up to a very high speed at the intersecting points outside and they just start flowing spontanously. (The deeper understanding in this process is what I am expecting in the next couple of days)

Magluvin

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #537 on: January 13, 2010, 06:27:40 PM »
But will we see it before you complete the theory?  =]

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #538 on: January 13, 2010, 06:46:28 PM »

I think many people got confused here with their coils. For those who have problems with results, here is the formula again how to calculate the length of the tube to get the 45 degrees:

l = (d x PI) / 6

"l" gives the length of tube to cut

Hi Tony

Using the formula gives me a height of 41.89mm for an 80mm diameter tube. Is this correct. I recall you were using a 70mm high coil originally.

l = (80 x 3.142)/6 = 41.89mm

Cheers

Sam




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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #539 on: January 13, 2010, 06:49:22 PM »
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Patience Grasshopper ;D

This will do what it does!! :o :o :o
[Don't ask me what "that" is]

Chet