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Author Topic: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump  (Read 341189 times)

agentgates

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #465 on: January 12, 2010, 10:03:35 PM »
And i doubt that you are going to show any working shit  :)

Yes it sounds very logical: I apply for a prize on the front of the public that finally I MUST send for deep analysis if I want the prize.

Oh, BTW you are fun of the word: proof... Can you proove your above statement? ;)


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turbo

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #468 on: January 12, 2010, 10:33:59 PM »
Yes it sounds very logical: I apply for a prize on the front of the public that finally I MUST send for deep analysis if I want the prize.

Oh, BTW you are fun of the word: proof... Can you proove your above statement? ;)

This is about you signing up for the prize 32 pages ago....not about me proving anything.
I tried hard enough and i do not like to see people waste others people's time....

So what's it gonne be?

Magluvin

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #469 on: January 12, 2010, 10:43:00 PM »
Bah comon marco, that dont sound nice.
We all feel a need to know.  But as tony stated above, he doesnt want anyone to catch up, so we dont really have all we need to know yet, that can be certain. That is some info that should have been disclosed earlier. As you can see it has stirred up the cattle. 
We are not here to intentionally hassle. But some here feel a bit betrayed.   So I can see if marco wants to call you on it, it is his bet. And he is playing the odds reasonably, where honesty is concerned.

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turbo

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #470 on: January 12, 2010, 10:46:43 PM »
well the truth isn't always nice and besides he asked me to post at the hour  :)

Magluvin

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #471 on: January 12, 2010, 10:48:55 PM »
Nice coil Key

But isnt the proximity of the primaries in the web going to add to the self inductance that we are trying to avoid?
 I thought that keeping those separated from each other was important also.

But she is a nice coil.  =]

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teslaalset

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #472 on: January 12, 2010, 10:49:43 PM »
No icebirds found tonight (it's freezing the hell out of here)

I did a rewind of my coil. The angle is now about the same as the instructions of Tony on page 1.
Now all the windings are exactly parallel, both at the outside and inside. That was'nt the case with my previous winding.

I got a 30 volt spike at my secondary but is a very, very short duration. I guess that's due to the kickback at the switch off moment of the primary.
Still no good, I guess, but I won't give up yet...

agentgates

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #473 on: January 12, 2010, 10:53:50 PM »
@marco

1. I have complied Stefan's request to open a topic for the prize and send the details in the meantime.
2. This is what I am working on right now.
3. Some people read it and said: "hey can we try it out?". Sure. I told them how to do that.
4. Some other guys have joined with an unexpected some kind of "proove your prestige" mass-hysteria on belief and pushing me as if I was obligated to put the fried chicken into their mouth.

Again, marco: Why? I am not your employee, ok? And the person who will evaluate my work is Stefan. So I would kindly suggest to spare your time (and mine) and play with your children or walk in the nature because you are just rising the noise level in this topic without any success... :)

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #474 on: January 12, 2010, 10:54:23 PM »
@mag
          yes ,my head is stuck on swirling vortex concepts

agentgates

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #475 on: January 12, 2010, 10:57:38 PM »
No icebirds found tonight (it's freezing the hell out of here)

I did a rewind of my coil. The angle is now about the same as the instructions of Tony on page 1.
I got a 30 volt spike at my secondary but is a very, very short duration. I guess that's due to the kickback at the switch off moment of the primary.
Still no good, I guess, but I won't give up yet...

Is that short duration ~500ns? Is that curvy on both edges? If so, don't scare of that because that is the correct result you need. There will be a lot more when you will turn on the other two coils. Please make sure you will use low frequencies at first. ~100Hz or a bit below with the 3 coils.

UPDATE

2 more coils will give you more than 3x of pulses. At 87Hz I am receiving 500ns pulses at 50% duty cycle!

teslaalset

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #476 on: January 12, 2010, 11:03:10 PM »
Is that short duration ~500ns? Is that curvy on both edges? If so, don't scare of that because that is the correct result you need. There will be a lot more when you will turn on the other two coils. Please make sure you will use low frequencies at first. ~100Hz or a bit below with the 3 coils.

Tony, it's more like 100 ns spikes, independent from the input frequency.
It's curvy, but my scoop is a 50 MHz one, so there are some measurement effects too.
I tried 75 - 1000 Hz.
On to a coil with three primary windings I guess.

teslaalset

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #477 on: January 12, 2010, 11:06:57 PM »
At 87Hz I am receiving 500ns pulses at 50% duty cycle!

Wow, looks like a steady oscillation.
Mine is exactly synchronized with the falling edge of the current switch off moment, so very, very low duty cycle.
Still some work to do...

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #478 on: January 12, 2010, 11:20:26 PM »
@teslaalset
Yes, you are doing well. So not to afraid of, what you see is normal and more than perfect if you don't see oscillation and negative pulses after your pulse. If you are at that stage then you are doing very well.

BTW frequency, yes the pulse length will NOT change if you increase the input clock. That is perfect. Now you need to turn on the 2 other coils to get even more pulses and get them closer to each other.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #479 on: January 12, 2010, 11:26:32 PM »
@marco

 So I would kindly suggest to spare your time (and mine) and play with your children or walk in the nature because you are just rising the noise level in this topic without any success... :)


No see i actually have success as there are more and more people that are starting to question this entire TPU thing and i hope i can convince them that this device is going nowhere!, so they can use their time and money on things that deserve it!! :)