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Author Topic: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump  (Read 341184 times)

teslaalset

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #105 on: January 07, 2010, 10:08:27 AM »
@agentgates:
Now I am a bit confused about your comments on the secondary winding of Minde's last coil.
To me it looks very simular to the one you showed here: http://www.samsonium.org/sites/default/files/P1060253.JPG and here: http://www.samsonium.org/sites/default/files/P1060251.JPG

Apart from the primary windings, what is the difference on these secondary windings that makes Minde's not suitable?

[update] Comments are corrected meanwhile by agentgates. Ignore above remark on confusion.

leo48

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #106 on: January 07, 2010, 10:15:30 AM »
Good mornig to all
Excuse me but how often should it work?
leo48

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #107 on: January 07, 2010, 10:16:26 AM »
Now I am a bit confused about your comments on the secondary winding of Minde's last coil.
To me it looks very simular to the one you showed here: http://www.samsonium.org/sites/default/files/P1060253.JPG

Apart from the primary windings, what is the difference on these secondary windings that makes Minde's not suitable?

No that was written for his previous one. I was typing that post before he sent the new pic. (I will correct it)

agentgates

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #108 on: January 07, 2010, 10:17:57 AM »
Good mornig to all
Excuse me but how often should it work?
leo48

No problem. As often the user will require.

agentgates

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #109 on: January 07, 2010, 10:40:39 AM »
@minde4000 and everybody

Forgot to tell: don't use flyback diode if you don't want your PSU get killed. Especially with those thick primary wires.

New info

Thick wires absorve more performance, thin wires don't. Use thinner wires and try it without FETs, like NPN transistors as the input current is not high.

UPDATE
So again, this is a voltage device, no need high current get it run.

broli

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #110 on: January 07, 2010, 10:46:17 AM »
I tried to post this yesterday:

The LC tank on the primary idea is indeed worth a try. If the coil accelerates the electrons then each cycle the tank voltage rises instead of dampening right? This could then be fully isolated from the outside, all it would need is a starting pulse and it would run off, probably some safety measures should be taken not to over charge the high voltage capacitor.

Does this sound sane?

darkspeed

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #111 on: January 07, 2010, 11:04:50 AM »
Very Interesting stuff!

Weigh your two coils I think you will find the mass needs to be equal for best results.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #112 on: January 07, 2010, 11:15:41 AM »
Quote from: agentgates link=topic=8586.msg220192#msg220192 =1262854152
@zerotensor
WOW! Beautiful work. May I use them later on presentations? :)
Thanks.  Sure, you can use these images however you like.  I can also provide you with customized plots -- The code I wrote to generate these graphics is fairly generalized, so given a diameter, height, offset angle, and number of turns, I can render the corresponding coil image in just about any format and size.  PM me if you want an image for a specific config.  I didn't model the thickness of the cylinder on these, but I could easily do that if need-be.

My motivation in working-out the mathematical parameterization of the wire segments was that it will be useful for modelling the magnetic field produced by the coil.

Just for kicks, I made an animation where the offset angle is varied.  Check it out:

agentgates

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #113 on: January 07, 2010, 11:29:14 AM »
Hello broli,

Yes the LC sounds good to try but presently I am on that to remove as many parts I can. When I finished with those modifications that I have imagined it will be not necessary, but if the heating problem remains we will certainly address to this one. Until then I don't want to add new components to the design.

Thanks for the suggestion. :)

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #114 on: January 07, 2010, 11:30:35 AM »
@zerotensor

WOW, amazing! :) We'll get back to this subject, thanks for the help. :)

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #115 on: January 07, 2010, 11:42:30 AM »
Hello All,
                @any....so by adding 2 more primaries to make 3 total would be (36x3)= 108 slots  thereby giving you 3.33 degrees of separation? does that sound right?..i'm on the edge of my seat over here.
                                                                             Very nice work All!

agentgates

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #116 on: January 07, 2010, 11:53:29 AM »
Hello All,
                @any....so by adding 2 more primaries to make 3 total would be (36x3)= 108 slots  thereby giving you 3.33 degrees of separation? does that sound right?..i'm on the edge of my seat over here.
                                                                             Very nice work All!

Hi ketone,

Yes that is correct! Use as thin wire is possible (hairline) and stay at the 45 degrees. Try to avoid any heavy circuitries and go for low current and higher voltage on the driving side. Mind the spaces between the primary wires, min. 1mm.


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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #117 on: January 07, 2010, 12:12:39 PM »
Hi ketone,

Yes that is correct! Use as thin wire is possible (hairline) and stay at the 45 degrees. Try to avoid any heavy circuitries and go for low current and higher voltage on the driving side. Mind the spaces between the primary wires, min. 1mm.

Hi agentgates,

Forgive me if this has already been asked or mentioned, but what if you wind your thin wire primary 45 degree winding on top of the thick wire secondary coil?

The reason I ask this is because such a design is very similar to the work and claims of Stan Deyo who claims to have worked on and seen various antigravity technologies. This design particularly related to the electromagnetic version of this technology.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/antigravity_deyo.pdf

I have videos (on VHS) of Stan Deyo's early (more than 20 years ago) lectures where he clearly describes toroid coils wound on top of normal coils. For some reason, all of his latest stuff leaves out the normal coil inside the toroid coil... Or perhaps the normal coil was always meant to be wound on top of the toroid coil as you have discovered...

Regards,

Ossie


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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #118 on: January 07, 2010, 12:22:12 PM »
@callanan

Hi Ossie,

I know Deyos works and I veryfied them. Unfortunatelly didn't work. It doesn't mean that he was wrong, maybe it is just me. But after learning what I'm doing here hopefully I'll make better and lighter antigravity device he had. :)

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #119 on: January 07, 2010, 12:24:08 PM »
@Everybody

IMPORTANT: you can vary the pulse delay with the spaces between primary coils but don't get them too close to touch each other to save on the input current. The less effort on the input current gives the best performance which also indicates if your device is running optimal.

UPDATE

Or pulse length? I don't know... I have to keep a break and eat something. :(