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Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« on: January 05, 2010, 03:28:18 PM »
I have contacted Stefan and he confirmed that a working TPU can win the prize. Please everybody avoid flame in this topic.

@Stefan, I have found the answers for the issue I mentioned in my email last night (or morning?). Please move it in the appropriate one as it seems to be locked right now. Many thanks.

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I, Anthony Sprader claim that I have succesfully replicated/reverse engineered the torroidal performance multiplier transformer device (TPMT, formerly referred TPU) presented by Steven Mark.

The device itself is a combination of a low frequency switching power supply in kHz range and electron accelerator that provides more electrical power and current than the primary side receives.

The cause of the significantly higher drained electrical performance is that the primary coil has a diagonal long step winding technique that causes rotating magnetic field flow along side the secondary coil. The output electrical current is a sum of two different type of current. The first is created via conventional electromagnetic induction by the primary coil and has normal hole and electron flow components while the gained electrical current is a spontanous electron flow without hole counterparts.

Due to the unusual nature of the gained electricity the majority appears on the closest PN semiconductor rather than the load where electrons can find they hole counter parts trapped between the PN layers. The closest PN semiconductor is usually the switching transistor component on the primer side. The higher primary input causes exponentially higher hole and electron imbalance in the primary driving coil thus the heat loss is also increasing exponentially between the switching PN layers.

Therefore there are several possible ways to decrease the amount of impacted electrons on the PN switching device.

1. Decreasing the input performance and duty cycle to decrease the exponential hole and electron imbalance and increase the efficiency by using TPMT devices in multiple stages to boost the output. (presently it needs 2 stages min. to power a 250V 50W light bulb on 190V)
2. Using multiple primary coils and switching them after each other to rest the PN layers on each switching channel. (e.g. Johnson-counter and several oversized IGBTs or FETs)
3. Avoiding the use of PN switching devices.

In case of winning the majority of the prize would support further developments of the technology to comply requirements of mass production.

(Please read the email below with the description I sent to Stefan this morning and disregard the typos as it was very late. Photos and vids are coming.)

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> how I could send you back the test device, when the test time is over or would you like to donate the device to me ?

Yes of course I have already made a coil for you yesterday that naturally you can keep. The one I mentioned puts out 190V to the 50W for ~30 seconds before you can smell the plastic on it, so it's a bit below 50W and since I don't have light bulb for 1W handy at the moment to verify the requirements I decided to build a larger device for you that comfortably supply usable energy. Before I send it I will also video it and upload it to my youtube channel.



> a 9 Volts Battery would be okay, if it runs for days and puts out already 50 Watts.

I wouldn't push the prize with the 9V battery, I just enquired whether I have a chance with a device that not I invented firstly (replica/reverse-engineering) to win th OUP as I need to put more money in research to refine the device, make it smaller, more efficient, safe for mass production, make formulas for sizing and keep the thing simple. I have already spent a few thousand pounds on it over the years. So I just wanted make sure, also I'd like to understand what's happening inside the working models before I apply. I believe in complete work before opening the champaign. :)

Today when I built your device I found that the energy moves in the device is far above 1kW, the only obstacle that it comes out where you would never expect it: it doesn't heat the coil at all, they remain cold but cooks the switching FET on the primary coil nearly instantly. My device works, yours not yet... :D We always learn.

I was driving it with a power supply (0-3A / 0-30V / max. 90W) and switching it with a single IGBT (rated 1200V/74A in pulse and 500W in fully open state) between 5 and 500kHz/50% square waves (I can't remember the freq exactly but it is only important when you put the load on it). When I put the PSU to the max. I saw a big flash after ~3 sec. and the soldering on the mentioned well oversized IGBT's middle pin has molten and released the wire, which was ~1.5mm in diameter and sticked to the next pin to it. That should be an enormous amount of power couldn't appear in the secondary coil and naturally impossible to do it with a 90W input.



> Does it only depend on special coil configurations or do you use also magnets in it ?

Yes and no. Magnet is not necessary but the coil winding is very important and as I noticed so far this is where one of the key secret is. I use a "triangular" winding technique for the primary that seems to be vital. I worked out this technique while I was playing with the Rodin coil (that could be good for primary with one coil and large spaces) and I was thinking how the current flows in it. It flows in a cicular pattern and after it takes the ~360 degrees it comes in the next to it and doing it over and over again until leaves the coil. I remembered when I started the TPU research I had coil that worked but I have successfully caused a thousand pound damage in my lab during the research and I couldn't work for nearly a year on it. 8-10 months later when I've bought the new instruments I didn't remember clearly which coil worked how I connected them, but a couple of days ago a guy posted a schematic and I had a dejavu. Something told me that I have seen this technique before which is almost identical to what I was doing. I digged out that coil from the crate, connected it and the signal was what I expected. Then I took a look at SM's naked coil with the magnet but this time on the JD released vids and it clicked in when I saw the winding on the rim. "That is the one! I know now why I did it this way back then!" The winding pattern is the same as you would wind a Rodin coil but not necessary to stick to the 150-degree-step (mine is wound with 60 and actually this is another thing that I want to verify which is the best). So you go around with long steps, leave well enough space and when you're done with one circle you simply continue and lay the next wire in the space of the previous circle. You repeat this technique as long as you want, but (I think) you need to do min 2 circles (later need to be verified again).

I give you details on the first working device (which performs far better than the second one :D ):

to replicate it you'd need these things:
- Paper mailing tube, 80mm in diameter, 70mm long and 2mm thick wall
- 0.38mm for primary (I wouldn't use it again, need a thicker min 0.74mm)
- 0.74mm for secondary (same issue, not thick enough, min 1mm)

Both of the wires are regular enamelled solid copper wires used for transformers. (After seeing what I have already seen here I wouldn't be surprised if this device doesn't work with soft wires. I think this is why the current has to struggle to flow in the secondary. Possibility for Litze wire also should be verified later.)

Oversized switching MOSFET/IGBT and large heatsink (for now as this is where the power loves to be built up and not on the load hooked up to the secondary).

This is not important at all, but I use a 9A mosfet driver. That was just handy in the breadboard and I need something to increase the signal as the max output 3.5V of my waveform generator.

Use a knife and cut off the tube and cut in 3 gaps about 1mm deep and 120 degrees to each other on the top and bottom edges, but make 60 degrees offset between the top and bottom sides. So when you look at it they will be in a zig-zag pattern to each other and not above and below. Then you place the primary wire in the 1st gap and keep windind it perpendiculary to the tube. When you're done with the first circle all gaps should be filled with wire. Then you are keep going in this form, but you lay the next circle about 3-5mm to the previous wire.

When you are done with the primary, wind the secondary on it as you would normally do it with e.g. a Tesla coil's secondary. (I did it very tight but later we can try it out with gaps.) I used a tape between the P/S coils to fix the primary. When you look inside your coil it should show a twisted form similar to the Rodin coil and the primary wires are hovering over the tube. An important thing: probably you remember the little guy and the TV that exploded in the 60s that SM mentioned. The coils on the CRT tube are wound in this pattern, this is what I used as a starting point when I made my first device many years ago. (AFAIK this winding pattern is still in use and I think that a part of that energy used in CRTs are not all from the mains.)

Ok, when your coil is ready, hook up the PG, PSU, the FET to the primary coil and scope to the input and output. Do it without load on the secondary! Set the PG to 50% square wave and a low frequency as a start, like 100Hz and slowly increase the power on the PSU. You will see a beautiful DC hump growing. This is only possible if you have a slight rotating magnetic field as the winding with the big spaces have a very low inductance. Basically this device is a transformer with a Rodin coil wound on a tube and a Tesla coil on it. It is a simple as this. :)

Now, put a load on it and find a comfortable duty cycle that your load likes. Increase the frequency and the input. If the load is too big you can fry eggs on the heatsink as all the power will appear on the FET. I think this is because of the nature of that current is different. That is not a normal current flow where you have both holes and electron flow. I think the balance of electrons and holes are not equal. One of them is trying to build up on the PN transision of the FET/IGBT. I don't know yet, it also should be investigated.



> Does it use any bifilar coils, where the inductance cancels each other from the 2 parellel wires and uses high frequency for standing wave effects?

No, it doesn't need anything like that.



> On what frequencies does it work ?

Not critical, depending on your load. It is nothing but a performance multiplier transformer where the output is the sum of the input and the extracted energy. You can use it in a wide range from 100Hz to 1MHz if you have a well shielded room as there is radio broadcasting in the higher frequency ranges and at that power you can disturb it.



> Do you also need 3 driver frequencies ?

No but it would be easier to distribute the heat and rest the FETs. If you shoot multiple channels in series as I said in my first post on your site (a year ago or 2) you can decrease the built up electrons or holes (whichever is the case) so they will not pull the current toward the fet and will go in the other way, the load on the secondary.



> I am pretty excited to hear, that somebody really has achieved a selfrunning TPU.

Thanks. :) I am also feeling better as I pay 100 pounds electricity every month to heat my 42 sqm appartment. Now at least I can get warm at the over unity heatsinks powered by a 1.5kW IGBT and hooked up to the screwed up TPU I made for you. :D



> a 9 Volts Battery would be okay, if it runs for days and puts out already 50 Watts. That would be hardly to achieve only with a small 9 Volts battery....

Maybe I have forgotten to tell the 9V think was done by 2 or 3 TPUs in series and the bat was quite hot. Actually I used them as step-up transformes after each other, but rather they would cause drop in the current they increase both the power and current. I think those are not inductors on SM's TPUs, those ar mini TPUs driving the big ones. I looked at his devices again and I understood everything. (when we are over the hard work perhaps I will make some drawings on how his devices work)

The LTPU probably has 2 mini TPUs and the coils are in series on each small TPU, but they are connected not in the usual way and rather having 2 coils on each mini TPU, those are 4 or 8 and the crossing is below the device. The foil cap is perhaps in parallel with the output to smooth the HV spikes. I guess the LTPU has 2 driving channels for heat and peak distribution and for resting the transistors. I noticed that this fenomenon happens when you put the freq two high, also the IGBTs have slower falling edges thus they can trap holes or electrons in an unexpected way.

I used FETs before but if I wanted to make usable power. They simply got a whole over the plastic if I gave them the juice. It doesn't mean that you can't do it with FETs, but with these coils I used you need well oversized swithing circuits. I saw a video with John Bedini and saw one of his kW device and there were several (8?) switching FETs/IGBTs in TO-247 package in parallel configuration to power a single driving coil. The heatsink was the case itself. That relatively small coil didn't look that tough and would not require that. I think he has the same problem with the gained energy, it wants to go toward the closest P/N semiconductor. (before I forget: schottky diodes could be another solution as they work differently, no PN semiconductors)


> You can also start posting the blueprints or just a circuit diagramm first and then add stuff like videos or pictures later.

To be honest some characters are a bit arrogant and I don't feel to comfortable standing on the stage. That is why I contacted you.
Diagrams are trivial, simple switching circuit, the critical is the winding technique.

I attached a few pictures on how the first zig-zag coil was built. The paper tube coil is the working coil, the big one (yellow inside) is the one I built for you, on the picture it is unfinished. That doesnt work.

Possible reasons:
- soft wire for secondary, the profile is not circular as the collected electrons want to move and spin in a helix form
- 2-sided crossing primary coils can cause disturbance in electron flow
- thick insulation on the secondary, therefore bigger the gap between conducting media. Plumbing pipe could be ideal for secondary with thin plastic tape on it for larger devices.
- too many divisions on each circle, should be decreased and verified, 120
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UPDATE

IMPORTANT SAFETY REQUIREMENTS

1. Never feed back the output in the input directly, only by filtering it and take it back before the switching devices as it will extract literally infinite energy and create an extremely high electromagnetic field in the environment. Probably that was the cause of the accident with the TV that SM mentioned killed a 5-year-old child when the electron accelerators coil got an input from another coil that it triggered as secondary (very likely accidentally due to overheating).

2. Separate the primary and secondary units galvanically as the output current is hazardous, also keep that in mind if you connect instruments, like scope on both the primary and secondary coils you will make a common ground through the scope between the two separate circuit.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2010, 04:58:45 PM by agentgates »

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2010, 04:52:40 PM »
very good news
 
did you think to sell it , or a kit , soon ?

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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2010, 05:01:31 PM »
very good news
 
did you think to sell it , or a kit , soon ?

No but you can make a business from it. There is no patent application on it and if somebody could have patented it Nikola Tesla.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2010, 05:17:02 PM »

Today when I built your device I found that the energy moves in the device is far above 1kW, the only obstacle that it comes out where you would never expect it: it doesn't heat the coil at all, they remain ***COLD*** but cooks the switching FET on the primary coil nearly instantly.

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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2010, 05:26:38 PM »
I am trying to answer your PM but I think something is wrong, as for my outbox you don't receive it.

I paste it here:

Hi Paul,

I don't know whether you received the previous message as my browser crashed so I answer your question again.

Thanks for your message.

Yes, I noticed that yesterday on the large one I built for Stefan the primary is cooler than both the ambient and the secondary coil. The secondary is about on room temperature. It is the sign of created inertia and gravitational force. so if you have multiple primary coils and shoot them after each other that would feel a shooting inertia and gyro effect that SM's withnesses felt.

I already figured it out how to create gravitational force in the centreline instead the circumference. :)

BTW Stefan's device is a monster, killed a 500W IGBT in 3 sec. due to my winding error.

Kind Regards
Tony

UPDATE: To those who are not familiar in the subject, the cooler primary coil means negative mass which is gravity.

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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2010, 05:38:41 PM »
I would be interested in seeing your winding methodology.

If your statements are accurate then the comments by SM regarding tubes would be on target. They would be more forgiving than the solid state devices.

I await further posts and perhaps pictures of the coils from the working unit(s). Congrats on your success BTW.

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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2010, 05:39:04 PM »
Why are the output and input amps not mentioned? Are you basing the output wattage on the bulbs wattage rating? If so please note that the bulb will still light up using less wattage then what it is rated for.

 The volts and amps are needed to be known before wattage can be properly determined.

Hi, I am trying to paste the photos and screenshots of the instruments and the device but I have to resize them as the CMS wont let me to paste them.

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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2010, 05:47:58 PM »
Hi, I am trying to paste the photos and screenshots of the instruments and the device but I have to resize them as the CMS wont let me to paste them.

Hi,

Maybe you could also email the full size photos to Stefan, and he could post them. And maybe you could CC me the full size photos via email as well -->

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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2010, 05:49:15 PM »
@AgentGates,

Thanks for working on those pictures.

As soon as the required info is shared I and others would be happy to replicate the device to coborrate your results and perhaps assist in resolving the heating and output hurdles.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2010, 06:00:34 PM »
I would like if someone could figure a way to get Tony some money to help further his efforts

Pay pal Or???

Chet

And yes I will [send Tony some moola]

PS Tony,
No more Grandma's and Grandpa's freezing to death
Absolutely AMAZING !!

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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2010, 06:13:04 PM »
Good job agent gates. I hope Stefan gets the device and awards you the prize. This forum will make sure the tech will advance very quickly. Seems like 2010 is going to a free energy explosion.
 

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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2010, 06:13:07 PM »
Thanks for the kind offers for hosting the pictures, I figured to manage posting them onto my website so no need to mess with resizing.

Winding technique
>>The tube with cuts on both sides<< I did it with 6 on both sides but on the next pic you can see that 3 is enough in "zig-zag"
>>After the first "circle" is done<< you just continue with laying it to the next to the other wire.
>>This is how the the primary coil looks when its done<<. Mind that this is a one channel primary input, so not as efficient than 2 or 3 in an alternating way. Just for feeding my curiousity I made another coil where I didn't cut the wire after finishing, but contiuned to fill the gap between the complete coil. That performed worse than the original one. That is the one I used to drive the main TPU.

Coil hooked up
>>This is how it looks with a few turnes of secondary<<. It is not what it looks like after finishing just found a piece of copper on the workbech and thought I'll try it whether it worths to open another roll. :D Yes it does, you will see that in the next pictures. :) The results are already remarkable only with 3 turns.
>>same thing, a bit sharper photo<<

Instruments without load
>>The input without load on the secondary<< I put the voltage DC source to the max.
>>The output<< Pulsed DC, exactly what we were expecting. :) 64V peaks. Not too much but it isn't bad with 3 turns of secondary.

The load
>>The victim<< 2.2 ohms, 5W resistor, just to be sure... :)

Instruments with load
>>0.02A drop on the input DC<<
>>1/3 peak on the output<<

After a minute operation the resistor became hot, temperature between 40-50C. I don't mention poor 500W IGBTs...

Stefan's coil
>>This is what it looks like after the first round and a bit more<< Mind the number of "zig-zags", I tried it with smaller steps, also used a bit thicker for primary wire and the electrons want to flow in this one, rather than the 250V 30A rated soft wire.

>>The IGBT murder in the circuit<< :)
>>3x500W=1.5kW IGBT's<< in parallel. Still not enough, they would cook in 10 sec if I would leave them running.

My tube coil design
>>This is another design for primary coil<< I made it a few weeks ago and planned to stick a perfectly matching Tesla secondary coil inside the hole. (not in the middle) Also I have an idea to wind a very long coil in the same fashion and place a copper tube as a secondary in the centerline that reaches the primary inside. This is actually a "flatten" or net version of the Rodin coil that you can make any long. My first plan is to drive it as a TPU primary coil. (2 channels). My theory is that you can make a very fast spinning magnetic field that could move the electrons even faster in the conducting medium. It can also be perfect to build very efficient eddy current motor that you can place inside of the wheel of a car. You don't need complicated transmission system and it also drains most of the energy from the ambient.

A REQUEST TO EVERYONE

Please make sure you save and download everything you see and read here. Photos, documents, and the videos and upload them onto P2P networks. Torrent, emule, etc. and preserve this technology, dont let it loose again. Test it and spread it! We dont need another SM who sits on it for decades for prestige or other reasons while millions dying in war on fossils.

Thank you for your kind messages and offers, but I wouldn't like to accept money until we see self-running device, this was my request to Stefan as well.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2010, 08:56:24 PM by agentgates »

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2010, 06:16:40 PM »
I would like if someone could figure a way to get Tony some money to help further his efforts

Pay pal Or???

Chet

And yes I will [send Tony some moola]
 

PS Tony,
No more Grandma's and Grandpa's freezing to death
Absolutely AMAZING !!

yes
 
if you have some TPU
 
we can buy them , to help you ?

 
 
PS :
 
very nice pictures !!

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2010, 06:18:54 PM »
Agent gates,

I saw a # missing in your link list above, and also found this one on that website,

http://www.samsonium.org/sites/default/files/P1020236.JPG

 

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