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Author Topic: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump  (Read 286538 times)

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #705 on: January 16, 2010, 02:16:06 AM »

I know you like TUBES. Is that what all the devices had in common on your overunityresearch.com brochure ?[the green highlight?]


Okay so i can answer this for you as it is a good question :)

The fat primary winding that all 3 devices have in common:

This fat few turn primary tickles the secondary "under the chin"
Mr. E Dollard explaind this, he said the charge generated by this fat primary coil was moving too fast for the electrons in the secondary to keep up with.
According to him this had a choking effect on the electrons and the flow of cold electricity was the result.  :)

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8227.msg216241#msg216241

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #706 on: January 16, 2010, 02:17:51 AM »
I dont want to sound stupid or repetitive. Bedini has shown his quick "replication" of the eOrbo on youtube where he claims that the motor will spin because the "curly A field" (I know some will say this does not exists) but the motor is spinning still.

If you just dream with this invisible unimaginable "curly A field" exists, could it be possible that it is the one that causes the "induction" on the primary, without having an "reflection" (Newton's Law) back (therefore Len's effect) to the causing field?

It is almost as if this secondary is able, because of such strange geometric shape, cause this interaction in a way that is not that visible in classic theory. It would be always there even in transformers BUT absorbed in a way that it does not make any effects, but in this configuration (and in Bedini's video which is very obvious - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYh8W3_EZjc) it manifests itself freely (or half way freely) allowing it to cause, again, an action at the primary without a "Reflection" back.

I would theorize that we would see many, many sinusoidal waves at the primary until a "approximation" of the pulses on the secondary would cause the "curly A fields" to "merge" and create a instantaneous reaction at the primary in a "square wave" phasion.

To test that I think would be possible by simply having a wire (A) being crossed by another wire (B) and simply pulse A 50% duty cycle until you see a square wave at B. It would be impossible to see that square wave in B, right? but what about having 3 As crossing one B and try it again?

Fausto.

ps: too much beer by now and Pinga!

Fausto.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #707 on: January 16, 2010, 02:25:54 AM »
@Marco and all of uncertainty
Im not saying this is Stevens TPU . Im not saying I have ou
I am saying that an interesting effect is here that MAY be involved and MAY lead to an understanding that MAY lead to a TPU...or something like it . Far too may may's ay?

Just  have a frigin look and stfu untill you see this .... other wise egg May be tattood on ones face.

I had no results at first and wondered wtf tony was on about , but I was prepered to wonder if I might have stuffed up somehow and to keep looking ..just long enough to to go WTF is this ..please try and get there at least.

Then by all means, rave about what the effect is and how you are an expert because you already know everything about it.

You are very good at winding coils and making video's to prove it. Thank you for showing us that. It MAY make you a better candidate for the egg tattoo.

This Needs colaboration
It will be a shame if another closed group has to form just because of the unwillingness of those who CAN do this dont , allowing the noise factor to increase logarithmically as it does , like when one baby cries in a maternity ward  , they all start.

Only one baby ever needed feeding


@ rosphere, paul,
you wont be dissapointed

The others who have seen it ...well you know!

Keep posting if you have the courage , otherwise good luck!

To the others on the fence with no will or intent but to stir the pot ...enjoy the show! Please try not to cheer or boo

Lindsay




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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #707 on: January 16, 2010, 02:25:54 AM »
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #708 on: January 16, 2010, 03:00:06 AM »
Lindsay
Couldn't agree more!

Please detail as much as possible, what you have in front of you
From A-Z ,to get this effect.

Thanks
 Chet

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #709 on: January 16, 2010, 03:23:11 AM »

@ rosphere, paul,
you wont be dissapointed

..............

Lindsay

I am doing the preliminaries right now, by checking the damage to my equipment. One channel at least is working properly on my four channel scope... One channel is better than none I guess.

I dread firing up the function generators....

Will wind one in the next few days.

Paul

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #710 on: January 16, 2010, 03:44:30 AM »
Ok

It is exactly as Tony has described.
I have not progressed to the point he had ..Im just new to this effect.

I am just simply driving a mosfet with a function generator. not an expensive one. a 555 should work the same

20 ohms from ps 30 volt to top of coil
lowside switching

1khz square wave saturating the fet  on  ( if the fet is not saturated no effect)
no fet driver yet.

there is a 27 ohm current limit resistor to gate but not needed in with my fg.

very rough indeed

I am yet to hook up a propper 3 phase controller . (Jason Owens type) I will wait untill there are more people with this base effect.

80 mm post tube 50mm high 36 slots top and bottom

again not optimum

.25 wire primary (tony said .19)

1 mm secondary 5 turns




This is all here over and over, it is best to read tony's posts.

Everything so I have was as tony described  I have more to do , lots more, so Im not the best one to ask.
When as few more of us get propper confusion, Im hopeful sure tony will add something so that we can get to second grade more quickly.



Just start the thing up and wind a few turns of secondary...hey 1 if you like .

I did find it interesting that my oscilloscope was not able to see it on some ranges which is still confusing to me
and may be a sticking point for some . A better probing method will develop Im sure

I have posted pictures and there is a small dc component in the lowest  point of the pulse that should not be there. but what would I know?

I just hope that we can do this in public ...so everybody just consider this a toy of curosity for now please.

Not curious ? No worries. Nothing needs be said.

If any body else (with steam)can help better then please do

Lindsay









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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #711 on: January 16, 2010, 04:03:11 AM »
Thanks Lindsay
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I just hope that we can do this in public
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I agree

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #712 on: January 16, 2010, 04:11:48 AM »

@ rosphere, paul,
you wont be dissapointed

Lindsay

You've done the diligent replication.  I would like to try running primary winds inside the tube on the shortest path to the other side; parallel to the axis of the tube.  Like yours, my primary winds outside the tube would be 45 degrees from axis of the tube and the secondary would be wound on the outside of the primary-tube assembly.  This would tell us if the inner wind configuration, separated from the secondary by the tube and the outer winds, comes into play or not.

Maybe tomorrow when I'm fresh.  (Yawn.)

Or maybe marco's large primary: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8227.msg216241#msg216241

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #713 on: January 16, 2010, 04:50:28 AM »
You've done the diligent replication.  I would like to try running primary winds inside the tube on the shortest path to the other side; parallel to the axis of the tube.  Like yours, my primary winds outside the tube would be 45 degrees from axis of the tube and the secondary would be wound on the outside of the primary-tube assembly.  This would tell us if the inner wind configuration, separated from the secondary by the tube and the outer winds, comes into play or not.

Maybe tomorrow when I'm fresh.  (Yawn.)

Or maybe marco's large primary: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8227.msg216241#msg216241

I strongly recommend starting from the base point ..It is just that the base point of reference is confusing enough.

Sure, do changes, lots of them, just make a little steam first.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #714 on: January 16, 2010, 05:34:32 AM »
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To many real inventors try to get "funding", and in so doing get tied up legally, all info unsharable with anyone, and the invention shelved. That is what happens when one gets greedy

Paul, you are spot on...why don't they just start selling to friends and family instead of trying to go for the GOLD in one fell swoop!

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #715 on: January 16, 2010, 07:13:48 AM »
@all

Nice work , agentgates as most likely left us .

He really did !


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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #716 on: January 16, 2010, 07:41:40 AM »
@mannix and all wanting to build a cheap multi-frequency fet driver

Modify my cheap old driver circuit to suit your needs.

http://www.randallsteward.com/TPU/pauldude000/3555basic50contduty.jpg

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #717 on: January 16, 2010, 07:42:33 AM »
Has anyone made a coil like Stefans yellow coil Tony sent him? He said it was a 1kw coil, then said it wasnt complete and that it doesnt work. But then the design changed a fair amount, different primary angles, thinner primary wire, could it be that the real way to do it is as the yellow coil? He talked about having running coils. Maybe he sent Stefan the sample and got scared and just said that it doesnt work after to protect himself. I also like the larger wire. It makes more sense. But for a few strands of 30 ga, We maybe can pwer some leds
 
In tonys last pic, his coil he has been working on shows the secondary glued to the tube, no primary windings, that seems to me that the secondary is in between the inner and outer primaries, like the yellow coil.
Maybe he has something, and maybe he led us in a different direction for what ever reason, from that yellow coil.
When I visualize the inner and outer primaries both close to the secondary, I can see how the spins from both of them would affect the secondary the same way but maybe more. And maybe the primaries affect each other in a positive fashion and helps as a whole. I can see the 30 ohm resistor on the yellow coil primary, but not an 8ohm hair thin primary. He probably did get sacred and diverted from the original deal as it went along,
So I would look into the yellow coil and the earliest of info on the coils.
Yellow
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #718 on: January 16, 2010, 07:46:19 AM »
I am very pleased to see this thread attracting so much attention,  I just discovered it after a long absence. I'll be piping in soon once I see the images and/or video  ....

EM
« Last Edit: January 16, 2010, 08:06:57 AM by EMdevices »

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #719 on: January 16, 2010, 07:53:24 AM »
@mannix and all wanting to build a cheap multi-frequency fet driver

Modify my cheap old driver circuit to suit your needs.

http://www.randallsteward.com/TPU/pauldude000/3555basic50contduty.jpg

Paul Andrulis

I used this for phasing a circuit, using three timers slaved to the same control circuit. Separate the timers, and put in two more control circuits. The control circuit is variable frequency/ variable pulse width. VERY stable output, and it supercharges the 555, allowing overclocking.

Paul Andrulis

 

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