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Author Topic: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump  (Read 288484 times)

Offline ramset

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #690 on: January 15, 2010, 11:45:47 PM »
Well
I guess those things had to be said.
Geese you fellows have the same Values, are trying to do the same things [open source make the world a better place]

And you can't hear[understand] each other.

Maybe Tony is right.
time for a walk to clear the head.

Chet

With all the great guys here with the same goal
somebody grab the tiller we're getting off course
 


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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #691 on: January 15, 2010, 11:56:04 PM »

Marco, I know several great devices worth investigating as well......

The problem is that the TPU isn't a joke. I am saddened that you guys swallowed the bait, hook, line, and sinker. I will be completely honest with you here.

Why is it, that when you, EM, etc.. were so close to reaching actual results, some one or two people in specific would send you guys consistently on wild goose chases? (Think hard, their names are right on the tip of your tounge.)

The best way to purposely place disinformation is to place specific members into a group, have them share just enough information to give them both validity and credibility and gain the groups trust, then have them purposefully lead said group AWAY from their desired goals by interjecting plausible but false information at key junctures.

If you have been used, then that sucks. EM for instance was SO STINKING CLOSE I could taste it.... But he swallowed the kool-aid as well, by the looks of it.

Paul Andrulis

The TPU is the joke of the century Paul.
The problem is that most people are still living in the dream.....

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #692 on: January 16, 2010, 12:26:49 AM »
The TPU is the joke of the century Paul.
The problem is that most people are still living in the dream.....

Not unlike star trek , lie or not we can make it.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #692 on: January 16, 2010, 12:26:49 AM »
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #693 on: January 16, 2010, 12:30:14 AM »
Marco
is it just the TPU you think is a waste?
Or Don Smith
Leedskalin
Dollard
Kapanadze
etc etc..
Chet
PS
I know you like TUBES. Is that what all the devices had in common on your overunityresearch.com brochure ?[the green highlight?]

Well looks like intermission
There's a good Leedskalin flik on tonight
[Thanks Master plaster]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1523833666089029157&ei=QphQS7DFNMaA-AaJifChBQ&q=the+secret+of+universe&emb=1

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #694 on: January 16, 2010, 12:49:27 AM »
Marco
is it just the TPU you think is a waste?
Or Don Smith
Leedskalin
Dollard
Kapanadze
etc etc..
Chet

The TPU is like fireing a gun at a small target in total darkness.

Ok see,what i did,i started to look at all devices i could find and i looked for the device that had the most info on it.
This new device became my new project.
The information is overwhelming and after looking into the details you know exactly:

*what you need
*how to build it
*what to use
*what to look for
*circuits
Etc. etc truly everything you need to do it...

Also the inventor is prepared to talk about his invention, that fact alone blews the TPU into the garbage can.

I had a hard time switching from total darkness to a new brilliantly lit workbench....Seriously i am still having problems with that,it cannot be this easy can it? it sure can...

It does not matter if anything is real or fake if you do not have enough information about it to replicate it...Because you will never suceed.

So you can either shoot in the dark forever or try to grab more light....





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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #694 on: January 16, 2010, 12:49:27 AM »
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #695 on: January 16, 2010, 12:54:56 AM »


I wonder if any body knows how that pulse DC is created in the secondary?

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #696 on: January 16, 2010, 12:56:27 AM »
@ -[Marco]-

Are you talking about Bedini tech?


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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #697 on: January 16, 2010, 01:05:07 AM »
@ -[Marco]-

Are you talking about Bedini tech?

No i am sorry i have done some Bedini replications but i left magnetics entirely... my personal oppinion is that this is not the correct mechanism.


I wonder if any body knows how that pulse DC is created in the secondary?


Why do you ask us? why not ask the inventor....
He is the only one that can clear this situation, and i do not think he is going to do that Mannix.......

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #698 on: January 16, 2010, 01:06:18 AM »
The TPU is the joke of the century Paul.
The problem is that most people are still living in the dream.....


Marco, you and EM became dissallusioned with the tpu. You found you could fake a device on camera, so therefore the original device must have been faked as well. My question to you is this. Would your devices... either one.... would they have withstood close up examination by an EE???

If not, then you have no proof of anything but that YOU faked a device convincingly.

Remember that SM's devices were actually scrutinized at close range by professional people SUSPECTING a scam to begin with. This is often overlooked or ignored by nay-sayers. It had secondary validation of various sources, which scamsters cannot afford to have, or real devices by real professionals.

Five thousand fakes and fifty thousand failed replications will not change that issue.

I have spent over two grand myself, join the club. I have built ~twenty or thirty different TPU's, and spent countless hours examining them, trying a wide range of techniques.

Yet for every failure I have seen interesting and often times unexplainable effects, and potential effects which have scared the living daylights out of me. I am not one to change knowledge bases easily, or throw out long cherished notions of physics, yet I have had to completely revamp my supposed "knowledge" of electromagnetism more than once because of my research.

This is anything BUT a false lead. The largest problem with replication is overcoming X years worth of SM interpretations, combined with very half-assed explanations and descriptions from the inventor himself. It truthfully makes me think he was achieving results without complete understanding on his own part, comparable to that Hutchison dude I came across years back.

As far as one way to build? That has never been true. There is always more than one way to do anything. If Tony has found another way, dissimilar to the original in build, but working from the same principles, then great!

As for the potential for such a device to work? Which principle do you disagree with... 1. A moving electric field can generate electricity? OR 2. Electric fields affect the movement of electrons?

You guys have been, to the best of my understanding, concentrating on magnetic field effects, ignoring half of the equation. Have you tried manipulating motional electric fields? The other half of ELECTROmagnetism?

Most of the problems people have been having here from what I have seen was the same problem I suffered from. They ASSUMED to much.

Most of the affects we see HAVE been seen by EE's. Theorists in science are almost never truly hands-on, so generally see little. EE's generally have given them the term 'anomaly', fixed the circuits to where the effect is nullified, and move on.

EE's are not trained to be theorists, so don't have the instinct to step back and say "WHAT THE HECK!!!!" when faced with a purely theoretical basis "should not be happening" situation, nor are they paid to. They are engineers whom can do amazing stuff with what is on hand, and generally understand WHY a circuit works BETTER than a theorist would, believe it or not.

The magnetic field and electric field effects are nothing new, they are merely relegated. If a good theorist were to talk at length with several good EE's about the observed effects they have observed, and 'fixed', they would either be disbelieved or it would floor the theorist.

What everyone needs to QUIT doing is assuming. ASSUMPTION is the main basis for stumped research on anything.

Paul Andrulis

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #698 on: January 16, 2010, 01:06:18 AM »
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #699 on: January 16, 2010, 01:16:10 AM »
YES! EXACTLY!!!

Get rid of the vague shit and replace it by CLEAR stuff.
I am not saying the TPU is fake i am saying we do not have enough info to replicate it and that makes it a joke!
Give a caveman all the parts of a car and wait untill he drives by..but he got no tools to begin with...

Paul it's not hard to fake anything on video...Real or not this thing isn't going to be replicated or at least not in our lifetime..

Gosh i am getting tired repeating myself i'd better stop.
It's up to you guy's.

over and OUR.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #700 on: January 16, 2010, 01:16:27 AM »
There is an effect in this spiral coil ..that only manifests in another coil .

Have a look ..see it and then you will all find agreement .

Like..... WTF is this?
But no ....many of you have already decided  with out even looking ..and you HAVE instruction on how to see it.

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #701 on: January 16, 2010, 01:22:26 AM »
The TPU is like fireing a gun at a small target in total darkness.

Ok see,what i did,i started to look at all devices i could find and i looked for the device that had the most info on it.
This new device became my new project.
The information is overwhelming and after looking into the details you know exactly:

*what you need
*how to build it
*what to use
*what to look for
*circuits
Etc. etc truly everything you need to do it...

Also the inventor is prepared to talk about his invention, that fact alone blews the TPU into the garbage can.

I had a hard time switching from total darkness to a new brilliantly lit workbench....Seriously i am still having problems with that,it cannot be this easy can it? it sure can...

It does not matter if anything is real or fake if you do not have enough information about it to replicate it...Because you will never suceed.

So you can either shoot in the dark forever or try to grab more light....

This inventor, "prepared to talk about his invention," would it be DLS?

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #702 on: January 16, 2010, 01:24:19 AM »
I have to say
Quote:

Also the inventor is prepared to talk about his invention, that fact alone blews the TPU into the garbage can.

I had a hard time switching from total darkness to a new brilliantly lit workbench....Seriously i am still having problems with that,it cannot be this easy can it? it sure can...

It does not matter if anything is real or fake if you do not have enough information about it to replicate it...Because you will never suceed.

So you can either shoot in the dark forever or try to grab more light....
---------------------------------------------------
This obviously makes a lot of sence

Whats on your bench Marco??
{besides the Fat girl]





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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #703 on: January 16, 2010, 01:29:01 AM »

I wonder if any body knows how that pulse DC is created in the secondary?

Electric field would be the first strong guess, based opon several facts.

1. The two coils are effectively magnetically uncoupled.
2. The geometry of the primary winding implies a regularly twisting rotating magnetic field. (string of pearls type visualization.)
3. The elctromagnetic field associated with the magnetic field would therefore follow suit, in a string of pearls configuration, leaving both high field potential and low field potential 'gaps' rotating around the coil with the field.

Since the magnetic field is 'out of phase' so to speak, it cannot be directly responsible for any main observed affects. A rotating electric field of similar geonmetry would force electrons to move REGARDLESS of orientation, due to repulsion of electrons trapped within the valleys in potential.

Such a field could not produce anything BUT dc spikes. The rotating magnetic string of pearls would naturally affect the local magnetic background, causing magnetic reflections and resonances of no real power or significance to appear in the secondary coil, thereby confusing the issue.

However, since I have no means to "see" or really measure a moving electric field, it becomes a guess, though a strong contender for logical reasons.

Paul Andrulis

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Re: Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump
« Reply #704 on: January 16, 2010, 01:37:28 AM »
There is an effect in this spiral coil ..that only manifests in another coil .

Have a look ..see it and then you will all find agreement .

Like..... WTF is this?
But no ....many of you have already decided  with out even looking ..and you HAVE instruction on how to see it.

It will cost me only time to test this as I already have all I need.

Despite the drama, this is an interesting effect.  Induction is taking place, in a unique way.  How does induction occur given the relative angles of the wire between the two coils?

How exactly can we model the magnetic loop line interaction during this process?

Can these magnetic loop interactions cause some vortex event and strong interaction with 'ambient' energy?

Can a small displacement current be made to induce a large conduction current?  The world may never know.

 

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