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Author Topic: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine  (Read 179034 times)

forest

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2010, 08:46:50 PM »
I believe it may work that way.
The solution was always to combine two forces : gravity and magnetism.This is the implementation of that idea and that's why I believe it's real.

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2010, 06:49:41 PM »
According to the original poster of this video, there are supposed to be magnets on the guillotine parts. If you look closely at the video, you will notice that the pendulum is pushed away from the guillotine as the guillotine slides down. The speed of the guillotine sliding down is a little suspicious to me.

norman6538

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2010, 01:16:44 AM »
First off I see an upper set of repeling magnets and a lower set of repeling magnets
at the gillotine. The pendulum arm at the top pushes the gillotine off balance so that
the gillotine with its repeling magnet drops and gives a tap to the swinging pendulum.
Then when it moves away the upper repeling magnet drops and resets the gilotine to
its up position. The weight, and magnetic forces and leverages of this would all have to be balance correctly. The gillotine trick is that it is in a track so it will not push away but
taps the swinging pendulum to keep it moving.

Very clever I'd say.

I do not quite understand what might be at the top above the pivot - maybe just
pendulum balances....

Norman

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2010, 01:25:02 AM »
The speed of the guillotine sliding down is a little suspicious to me.
i hope i can describe it an undersandable way.

the repel-kick given on the birdpecker-magnets loosen the string where the guillotine is hanging. when the string is loose, it will take a time before the guillotine starts to fall down because of gravity. at this moment the pendulum is still slowly moving toward the guillotine-magnets. the repell-force from pendulum and guillotine-magnets works like a brake for the free falling guillotine, until the pendulum reverses the direction. the guillotine-magnet itself transfer the falling power (weight) trought the repell-force of the magnets to the pendulum-magnets.

sorry about this bad english.

mike

ramset

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2010, 02:31:40 AM »
Mike
You think you could build one of these??
Or explain how?

Chet

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2010, 04:11:22 PM »
@Mike
your english is fine.
The problem I see is when the guillitine is falling it will break the pendulum. The repelling force when it changes direction has to be greater than the force needed to tip the counter wieght magnet at the top. I see timing is critical but I cant see an energy gain
Mark

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2010, 04:22:47 PM »
I can't help but see a striking similarity to the Kinetica toy (k-toy, ktoy) from Steorn.  That device supposedly gained energy by the interaction of two magnets where the speed and direction of the approaching magnetic fields was different in regard to the speed and direction of their retreat.  I see the same speed and direction type changes in the interaction of the lower pendulum magnets and the guillotine magnets.  The upper magnet interaction might just be a cleaver way to trigger the lower action.

mike-ao

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2010, 05:22:10 PM »
@Mike
your english is fine.
thanks :blush:

The problem I see is when the guillitine is falling it will break the pendulum. The repelling force when it changes direction has to be greater than the force needed to tip the counter wieght magnet at the top.
don't forget to add the "falling-down-power" (free fallin of gulliotine) because of gravity

Mike
You think you could build one of these??
i'll think about to build one, but i've to get some time for it.
mike

mike-ao

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2010, 05:23:56 PM »
@Mike
your english is fine.
thanks :blush:

The problem I see is when the guillitine is falling it will break the pendulum. The repelling force when it changes direction has to be greater than the force needed to tip the counter wieght magnet at the top.
don't forget to add the "falling-down-power" (free fallin of gulliotine) because of gravity

Mike
You think you could build one of these??
i'll think about to build one, but i've to get some time for it.
actually i work on a project with an self running and HOPEFULLY also self starting magnetmotor
mike

Omega_0

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2010, 07:14:57 PM »
A good place to hide batteries and pulse generator will be inside the 'hammer'.  :P

And it would run for many months just like a normal clock does.

Lakes

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2010, 08:18:46 PM »
I think I replaced the battery on my pendulum clock over a year ago, could be longer, so these things will run a very long time off even a small battery.

ramset

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2010, 08:43:51 PM »
If this is real? to replicate would not cost much.
To make it do work [torque]would not be brain surgery either
How did this vid get here ??
Stephan did you invite him to share ??

Chet



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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2010, 10:40:27 PM »
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I did an HQ frame-capture for any who'd like to get a better look and enhance any images:

http://rapidshare.de/files/48943538/OU-Pendulum.zip.html

13.5M - see the _README.txt

Tony
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norman6538

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2010, 10:47:25 PM »
I have a great plan to test the gillotine dropping resulting force. Swing the pendulum from a marked point from left to right and on the right have a latch made from milk jug plastic to stop it at
its stopping point. Then drop the gillotine which will also kick the latch down so the pendulum will swing back and measure where it ends up on the left. If it goes past its stopping point then viola -
the gillotine is effective. Then its a matter of getting the gillotine reset again at a work unit less than the work unit gained in the test above.


Hopefully in a day I can embody this.

Norman

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Re: New magnet powered perpetual motion machine
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2010, 01:24:31 AM »
Quote

I did an HQ frame-capture for any who'd like to get a better look and enhance any images:

http://rapidshare.de/files/48943538/OU-Pendulum.zip.html

13.5M - see the _README.txt


Tony,

I'm interested in seeing your HQ pictures.  I'm unable to open your file via the net or save it as a target.  Is there another option or a fix?

Thanks for your help!
Preston