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Author Topic: SINGLE WIRE JOULE THIEFS  (Read 19346 times)

Offline innovation_station

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Re: SINGLE WIRE JOULE THIEFS
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2010, 01:44:09 PM »
Figure 1 is a standard pancake coil (many Tesla coil builders are familiar with this style). Figure 2 is a bifilar coil, the crux of the patent is where Tesla winds a dual wire and then connects the ends in a series (an interesting experiment for coil builders).

Tesla explains that a standard coil of 1000 turns with a potential of 100 volts across it will have a difference of .1 volt between turns. A similar bifilar coil will have a potential of 50 volts between turns. In that the stored energy is a function of the square of the voltages, the energy in the bifilar will be 502/.12 = 2500/.01 = 250,000 times greater than the standard coil!"

hahaha

ist

hummm 250 000 times bigger .....  hummmm  single wire jt

stupid humans   lol 

this is a JT ...  : )  THAT OUTDATES ALL !

the dumb humans try to call his work and my work there own ... 

YOU ALL HAVE NEVER BEEN SO WRONG ...

QUOTES FROM THE PATTEND

solenoids, or, in fact, ~ANY CONDUCTOR ~ the different parts of which by the requirements of its application or use are brought into such relations with each other as to materially increase the self-induction.

1. A coil for electric apparatus the adjacent convolutions of which form parts of the circuit between which there exists a potential difference sufficient to secure in the coil a capacity capable of neutralizing its self-induction, as hereinbefore described.



        NIKOLA TESLA.

   Witnesses:
      ROBT. F. GAYLORD,

ZEROS ... EH 

SURE LOOKS LIKE ONE TO ME


UNITED STATES PATENT OFFICE

NIKOLA TESLA, OF NEW YORK, N. Y.

COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS.

SPECIFICATION forming part of Letters Patent No. 512,340, dated January 9, 1894.

Application filed July 7, 1893. Serial No. 479,804. (No model.)
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Offline innovation_station

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Re: SINGLE WIRE JOULE THIEFS
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2010, 02:46:20 PM »
in this next tesla pattend you see "G"   LMFAO!!!!!!!

HUMMMMMMM

WHATS G? 

OF COURSE I SOLVED THIS RIDDLE YEARS AGO .. 

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/patents/transform.htm

YEP SO I DID

IST

WHATS G?   

The improvement involves a novel form of transformer or induction-coil and a system for the transmission of electrical energy by means of the same in which the energy of the source is raised to a much higher potential for transmission over the line than has ever been practically employed heretofore, and the apparatus is constructed with reference to the production of such a potential and so as to be not only free from the danger of injury from the destruction of insulation, but safe to handle.  To this end I construct an induction-coil or transformer in which the primary and secondary coils are wound or arranged in such manner that the convolutions of the conductor of the latter will be farther removed from the primary as the liability of injury from the effects of potential increases, the terminal or point of highest potential being the most remote, and so that between adjacent convolutions there shall be the least possible difference of potential.


In constructing my improved transformers I employ a length of secondary which is approximately one-quarter of the wave length of the electrical disturbance in the circuit including the secondary coil, based on the velocity of propagation of electrical disturbances through such circuit, or, in general, of such length that the potential at the terminal of the secondary which is the more remote from the primary shall be at its maximum. In using these coils I connect one end of the secondary, or that in proximity to the primary, to earth, and in order to more effectively provide against injury to persons or to the apparatus I also connect it with the primary.

HUMMMMM

: )

Coils of the character herein described have several important advantages.  As the potential increases with the number of turns the difference of potential between adjacent turns is comparatively small, and hence a very high potential, impracticable with ordinary coils, may be successfully maintained.

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Re: SINGLE WIRE JOULE THIEFS
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2010, 03:13:28 PM »
here ya go .... 

HEARS THAT G AGIN ... LOL

UNITED STATES PATENT OFFICE.

NIKOLA TESLA OF NEW YORK, N. Y.

SYSTEM OF TRANSMISSION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY.

SPECIFICATION forming part of Letters Patent No. 645,576, dated March 20, 1900.

Application filed September 2, 1897.  Serial No. 650,343. (No model.)

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/patents/system.htm

 Expressed briefly, my present invention, based upon these discoveries, consists then in producing at one point an electrical pressure of such character and magnitude as to cause thereby a current to traverse elevated strata of the air between the point of generation and a distant point to which the energy is to be received and utilized.

In the accompanying drawing a general arrangement of apparatus is diagrammatically illustrated such as I contemplate employing in the carrying out of my invention on an industrial scale—as, for instance, for lighting distant cities or districts from places where cheap power is obtainable.

Referring to the drawing, A is a coil, generally of many turns and of a very large diameter, wound in spiral form either about a magnetic core or not, as may be found necessary, C is a second coil, formed of a conductor of much larger section and smaller . . .


IST

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Re: SINGLE WIRE JOULE THIEFS
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2010, 04:54:56 PM »
WHAT THIS MEANS IS ...


PUT A TURBINE IN THE RIVER PRODUCE FREE ELECTRICTY ..  PRODUCE HIGH DC CURRENTS ..  USEING A HPG SECTIONED AS PER THE GOLDEN SPRIAL  ; )   THEN CARRY OUT TRANSMITTION TOWER ..

TO SUPPLY WIRELESS ELECTRICTY .. EFFICIENTLY FROM 1 LOCATION TO MANY .. 

BE IT DEVELOPED OR REMOTE

IST

got a river i own the turbine ..  and have solved the riddle

Offline MrMag

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Re: SINGLE WIRE JOULE THIEFS
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2010, 05:26:35 AM »
here ya go .... 

HEARS THAT G AGIN ... LOL

UNITED STATES PATENT OFFICE.

NIKOLA TESLA OF NEW YORK, N. Y.

SYSTEM OF TRANSMISSION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY.

SPECIFICATION forming part of Letters Patent No. 645,576, dated March 20, 1900.

Application filed September 2, 1897.  Serial No. 650,343. (No model.)

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/patents/system.htm

 Expressed briefly, my present invention, based upon these discoveries, consists then in producing at one point an electrical pressure of such character and magnitude as to cause thereby a current to traverse elevated strata of the air between the point of generation and a distant point to which the energy is to be received and utilized.

In the accompanying drawing a general arrangement of apparatus is diagrammatically illustrated such as I contemplate employing in the carrying out of my invention on an industrial scale—as, for instance, for lighting distant cities or districts from places where cheap power is obtainable.

Referring to the drawing, A is a coil, generally of many turns and of a very large diameter, wound in spiral form either about a magnetic core or not, as may be found necessary, C is a second coil, formed of a conductor of much larger section and smaller . . .


IST

IST,

You keep putting the cart before the horse. First off, "G" is a dynamo as it states in the patent. A generator or alternator to produce the supply voltage. There is nothing there to discover. He tells us what it is in his patents. It's too bad that you don't understand this.

Now, as far as the cart before the horse. A joule thief is a device that utilizes BEMF (back electro motive force). A device that utilizes BEMF is not necessarily a joule thief. Until you fully understand this, you will have problems. Most if not all of your devices are using BEMF. There is no magic here. Now you have come out with this thread "single wire joule thief". A single wire is NOT a joule thief. Then you have the other thread named "no transistor joule thief". If it doesn't have a transistor, it isn't a joule thief. I really think they are wasted space as they do not really show anything new. It's like if I start a thread named "vehicle with no motor". A car with no motor that you need to push to get to where you want to go. There is no difference between my car and your transistorless joule thief that you pulse by hand.

I do not mean to be rude about this but I think you really need to do a little more reading and maybe a little less posting. You really need to get a better understanding of the basics.

Offline MrMag

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Re: SINGLE WIRE JOULE THIEFS
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2010, 07:43:29 AM »
I guess IST has took me up on my post. He must be doing some reading :)

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Re: SINGLE WIRE JOULE THIEFS
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2010, 09:31:19 AM »
I guess IST has took me up on my post. He must be doing some reading :)
yea he doing some reading..
he's been banned..

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Re: SINGLE WIRE JOULE THIEFS
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2010, 10:50:32 AM »
yea he doing some reading..
he's been banned..

Oh man...thank goodness.  That guy is such a Douche.

I have refrained from arguing his many stupid posts on the grounds that the only bigger fool than the village idiot is the person who tries to reason with him!  :D

About time he was banned.

E-Goose

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Re: SINGLE WIRE JOULE THIEFS
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2010, 05:27:25 PM »
I got into it with him a while ago. It was sort of fun watching him have a temper tantrum. He almost totally destroyed a frequency generator that I sent him. The saddest thing about him is that he always put down the people who helped him most.

Hopefully, he'll grow up some day.

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Re: SINGLE WIRE JOULE THIEFS
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2010, 06:54:54 PM »
was he really banned?
its about time! lol

*cheers*

Offline MrMag

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Re: SINGLE WIRE JOULE THIEFS
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2010, 09:38:53 PM »
Maybe we should advertise for a new "Village Idiot". It will be big shoes to fill.