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Author Topic: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....  (Read 181279 times)

Offline david7630274

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2010, 08:06:12 PM »
Here's  an idea you may want to consider. If you can get your hands on a transformer 110v to 9v, connect the output to the pri (9V) side and see if you can step up the voltage and light up a neon bulb. If you set it up right you will get a mild shock on the secondary(110v) side.  :o
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Offline xee2

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2010, 09:55:39 PM »
@ sirmikey1

What transistors are you using?


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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2010, 10:08:20 PM »
   Jeanna has added many secondaries, useful for lighting every room of the house using one Joule Thief. 

Her Schematic Attached
SM

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2010, 10:12:43 PM »
xee2,

2n4401 NPN EBC General Purpose
2n4403 PNP EBC

  I can also run to radio shack if needed...

Thanks,
SM

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2010, 11:30:40 PM »
I did a quick test of circuit. It will light neon and it looks like it may be putting out AC (I can not really tell since I do not have a scope).

EDIT: I used an ignition coil, but I think it will work with the xenon trigger coils also. The small ignition coil I used had a primary resistance of 0.7 ohms, a coil with higher primary resistance may not work as well.


« Last Edit: January 04, 2010, 12:32:43 AM by xee2 »

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2010, 03:35:23 AM »
Another test. I think this will be my last, then I will go back to other things.

This circuit was able to light a string of 25 LED Christmas tree lights using only 4 mA from an AAA battery. They are not very bright but they are all lit. If a D cell was used they would stay lit a long, long, time. Note 1 meg resistor. Photo is video frame grab, not long exposure.

EDIT: A D cell is rated at 12,000 ma-hrs. 12000/4=3000 hrs or 125 days running continuously.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2010, 04:38:53 AM by xee2 »

Offline kooler

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2010, 04:00:40 AM »
you doing alot better than me on this circuit
i had 5 leds catching bemf from a inductor
to get them bright i was pulling almost 35 ma

you da man xee2

this might be a good circuit for the tpu guys to make a rotating mag field for their res coil

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2010, 04:11:06 AM »
@ kooler

I feel that the main advantage is the ability to light LEDs dimly for a very, very, long time. The kind of thing Jeanna is always trying to do.




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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2010, 05:08:05 AM »
xee2,

   Thank you so much for your mods to the chilliqueen JT circuit. This has really made a world of difference for me, independent secondary(s), A/C.  Chilliqueen contacted me earlier, wanted your mods; and I also sent them to Jeanna ;) 

SM

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2010, 05:28:25 AM »

One more interesting circuit. Lighting a neon with only 4 mA using the 1 meg resistor.


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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2010, 05:43:47 AM »
@ sirmikey1

xee2,

   Thank you so much for your mods to the chilliqueen JT circuit. This has really made a world of difference for me, independent secondary(s), A/C.  Chilliqueen contacted me earlier, wanted your mods; and I also sent them to Jeanna ;) 

SM

I am glad I was some help. Please post your results when you get parts to build your circuits.


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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2010, 01:47:13 PM »
Udate on the original chilliqueen Joule thief. I have the regular JT running with the Chilliqueen on the same AA battery for days now, and the Chilliqueen died out while the regular JT is still very bright.  Obviously takes more energy to oscillate,  or may be the cap.  Xee2's mods may be different.

Also, I found ferrite toroids on mouserj.com:

 61mm for $5 and 23mm for 75cents with no minimums.

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2010, 03:53:50 PM »
Pushing it to the limits. This circuit uses only 0.1 mA to blink a neon or LEDs. A 1.5 volt "D" cell flashlight battery is rated at 12,000 mA-hr. Dividing 0.1 mA into 12,000 yields a run time of 12000/.1/24/365 = 13.7 years. Of course the battery will probably leak before that. Three videos of this circuit on YouTube at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKEPhnCxsqw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc_PGdwTTEc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpMmvY4JOpE


EDIT: If using LED also use a 1N4007 diode in series with the LED to prevent the LED from being damaged by the reverse voltage.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2010, 04:33:18 PM by xee2 »

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2010, 04:32:43 PM »
zee2,

  Good work!

   Watching Jeanna's many secondaries video, it just occurred to me, a solid state motor / generator.   Three phase a/c Joule thief set up and running circles like a three phase motor armature on a torroid and then the outer pickup coil (secondary) wrapped around the whole thing.  Steven Mark?   
Mikey
« Last Edit: January 04, 2010, 05:02:26 PM by sirmikey1 »

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2010, 05:33:03 PM »
xee2,

EDIT: chilliqueen circuit is no joule thief.  Stopped around 5am today, and the Joule thief is on the same battery  and still going, . Still going fairly strong.  Chilliqueen is obviouly not pumping kicking out the Joules 

  Jeanna's getting 170volts from her little torroid.  Lid says he's pumping that A/C into a rectifier, and then puts it across a spark gap to pulse an ignition coil;;; and this is creating monster sparks.  Thick Spikey thorny sparks. 

   The heavy sparks are probably good for the big stuff; motors and heating.     

   Reminds me of Steven Mark videos, he was inserting a little button cell battery to kick it off ???   

Mike East
« Last Edit: January 04, 2010, 09:08:15 PM by sirmikey1 »