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Author Topic: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....  (Read 179770 times)

Offline crowclaw

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2010, 10:15:07 PM »
Here's  an idea you may want to consider. If you can get your hands on a transformer 110v to 9v, connect the output to the pri (9V) side and see if you can step up the voltage and light up a neon bulb. If you set it up right you will get a mild shock on the secondary(110v) side.  :o
David7630274

Hi David,

This transformer idea is OK for low frequencies, you transformer is designed to operate at 60 Hz hence the laminated metal core.  JT's etc are high frequency oscillators, the core materials are ferrite.

Offline stprue

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2010, 10:18:00 PM »
xee2,

EDIT: chilliqueen circuit is no joule thief.  Stopped around 5am today, and the Joule thief is on the same battery  and still going, . Still going fairly strong.  Chilliqueen is obviouly not pumping kicking out the Joules 

  Jeanna's getting 170volts from her little torroid.  Lid says he's pumping that A/C into a rectifier, and then puts it across a spark gap to pulse an ignition coil;;; and this is creating monster sparks.  Thick Spikey thorny sparks. 

   The heavy sparks are probably good for the big stuff; motors and heating.     

   Reminds me of Steven Mark videos, he was inserting a little button cell battery to kick it off ???   

Mike East

Like GK said, monster sparks are probably from a stun gun circuit!

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2010, 03:00:45 AM »
Like GK said, monster sparks are probably from a stun gun circuit!

  This has all been one heck of a show, so far.  Looked at some stun-gun circuits...  yea exactly that's what Lid is doing with the Lightning Maker; though he may not yet realize it.  Brings back some memories. 

  What, is the stun gun soon to replace the motor/generator armature? 

Mikey
 
« Last Edit: January 05, 2010, 06:47:59 AM by sirmikey1 »

Offline kooler

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2010, 07:03:36 AM »
mikey
you must not read ...
if you look at my schematic in the jt section ,,.. it says strobe/ stungun circuit  and if you (read) lidmotors info on his video it says '' The project was inspired by "Kooler's" ideas and Tesla coil designs '' but chances are you won't see this... since you don't (read)
i just playing with you anyway..haha

xee2
i found something really weird to me... i made the circuit you posted but with a 0.47 cap and a 55 k resistor
well no load it pulls 56.4 ma but....... with a load it shows 3.83ma  ( the load being a neon half bright 78 volts )
and it runs at 1181.3 hz

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2010, 11:29:09 AM »
Kooler,

  Hello and great to meet you. Thanks for the heads-up, the 3ma neon. Yea, didn't catch that earlier, had my head into the original here. Threshold, the original here crashes sooner, wont JT.     

   I've now got the original joule thief powering the xee2 joule thief with that dead battery. Bright...

Thanks,
Mikey
« Last Edit: January 05, 2010, 03:22:06 PM by sirmikey1 »

Offline xee2

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2010, 11:46:06 PM »
@ kooler

Here is something else you may be interested in, neon lit with only one wire.


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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #51 on: January 06, 2010, 12:34:52 AM »
mikey
its good to meet you sir... i like to joke alot...so try not to take me to wrong way..please

xee2
yes i have used the 100pf cap and got some sparks with it and lit the neon with one wire
but i am using this transformer
http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G16821
i been forced to use my bread board due to the elements outside...12 degrees at night
''darn global warming''

Offline xee2

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2010, 12:56:08 AM »
@ kooler

Guess what. I ordered 2 of those yesterday. They should get here in a few days. The ignition coil should work better since it has a lower primary resistance (thus more current from the 1.5 volt battery). But tests will tell.




Offline kooler

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #53 on: January 06, 2010, 01:14:41 AM »
xee2
a ign coil does work better... i got one of these in a grab box from goldmine.. you can get all kind of weird stuff in those boxes
i got a rc car last time.. but i had to fix it...!
i still trying to get the nerve back up to work on my other circuit...
so this is a break away till then
i think this is a kool circuit that chilliqueen got here
i think i might have thought of some real good uses for it....

Offline sirmikey1

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #54 on: January 06, 2010, 05:13:27 AM »
You guys be sure and watch JonnyDarvo 's mod/replication video on this, the Chilliqueen Circuit.  Everyone is getting similar results, very little current draw; lots of SEC; and best powered by the original Joule Thief...

JonnyDarvo's Video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZanIc5nS78A

Mikey

Offline xee2

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #55 on: January 06, 2010, 05:46:47 AM »
JonnyDarvo's circuit is very impressive. Here is a xee2 super Joule thief circuit that puts more power into coil. Will light fluorescent tube with 1.5 volt battery. I think a trigger coil will work also, but I do not have one to try. This mod should improve his performance. I tried to log into his thread but the forum he is on will not allow me to post there.




Offline kooler

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #56 on: January 06, 2010, 06:15:43 AM »
if we keep adding transistors soon we will have us a led work light... 4 real
i torn a part a 60 led rechargable work light (batterys went bad) it had 1 transistor for every two leds... it also had 6 batterys in it for 3 volts and around 10,000 mah i think

just to keep you thinking..??

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2010, 06:56:12 AM »
xee2,
    I thinkt that Lid and Jonny are using the strobe ignition coil from mouser, search "4kv trigger" and it comes right up.  I ordered several a few days ago; and they also have 61mm toroids for $6 and 22.5mm for 75 cents. MFG is "Wurth".  Just search their online virtual catalog. 

Im thinking that the ferrite rods are going to do best.  it may be best to stack the coils all along the same magnetic pole, axial plane, for maximum kick. May stack several pairs primary/secondary, primary/secondary and pulse all primaries at once, all into one rectifier; along with every bemf possible. 

  It's midnight here; and this is off topic, but quite a story to tell.  This morning around 6am, I was laying in bed floating in and out of sleep, and suddenly I hear this very loud viscious wolf growling very angry.  I nearly jumped out of my skin.   Oh well, my grandmother must have been praying again ;)...  Dead serious though....

Mikey 

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #58 on: January 06, 2010, 07:51:56 AM »
@ kooler

if we keep adding transistors soon we will have us a led work light... 4 real
i torn a part a 60 led rechargable work light (batterys went bad) it had 1 transistor for every two leds... it also had 6 batterys in it for 3 volts and around 10,000 mah i think

just to keep you thinking..??

It is only one more part.


Offline jadaro2600

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Re: New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....
« Reply #59 on: January 06, 2010, 05:45:14 PM »
smirkey, very strange, i had the same dream a few months ago..  but I later chalked it up to snoring.

I was also once woken by a very loud, audible turkey gobble - I have no explanation for this however.

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You guys be sure and watch JonnyDarvo 's mod/replication video on this, the Chilliqueen Circuit.  Everyone is getting similar results, very little current draw; lots of SEC; and best powered by the original Joule Thief...

JonnyDarvo's Video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZanIc5nS78A

Mikey
I think this version of the JTC is turning out to be quite interesting, the video posted is very interesting, I would like some clarification on what a kv switch is though ( how is that working internally with regard for the circuit in question? ) ..and by doing so, obviously I would be creating a transmitter, wouldn't this violate some law?..or peace of mind?

I know this is rather backwards thinking, but I know how much of a hassle that rouge transmissions can be, those XM radio rebroadcasts from receiver to car radio are always butting in on my favorite channel ( and down here is twangy country interrupting my light rock ).