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Author Topic: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)  (Read 30550 times)

Zorro

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2009, 08:29:08 PM »
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X00013

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2009, 11:00:58 PM »
magic plywood

jadaro2600

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2010, 02:57:47 AM »
magic plywood

Hilarious.

There seems to be some oddities in the rigidity of the design...  Strings? ..why strings?

Anyway, if it is working, then, there's probably room for error, since the device would be prone to excess energy and all, that is, if it is working.

In principle, though, the device would be capable of running asymmetrically.  There would only be need of this one one side.. then it would make the sound of a heartbeat.

 ;D

I assume the lower mags ( all those black things ) are attracting?

Neomags would be a stronger source than those ceramics.

capthook

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2010, 07:06:21 AM »
Hard to fully explain why this shouldn't work as shown...
here is a simple attempt:
(however it is a cool and beautifully crafted device)

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2010, 10:12:26 PM »
Better get a  link to this over to Donald Simanek to show him how wrong he's been for all these years....

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2010, 11:37:48 PM »
hmm

pretty cool

so the top magnets repel, and the bottom magnets attract?

has anyone tried to check the length of each swing to see if it was slowing/ how consistent it was?

maybe the very first one compared to the very last


il give it more thought, try to figure out the weight ratios of the magnets then maybe someone can build it

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2010, 12:21:46 AM »
Mr. Bo. ,   I think all the magnets repel.

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2010, 04:09:40 AM »
Hard to fully explain why this shouldn't work as shown...
here is a simple attempt:
as you declare the screw on top of the pendulum in your picture as a battery-holding unit. i think so, it's only to adjust the pendulum-weight for balance.

sorry about my bad english.

i also think so, all magnets repell. the two top-sets is clearly to see. the bottom ones also repel to give a kick to the pendulum for force it with more strength in the opposite direction.


tournamentdan

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2010, 04:34:26 AM »
I am sure that if the video was long enough you would see it slow and stop. Just like any other pendulum. This is just like any other video out here. Never enough info.

capthook

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2010, 09:08:40 AM »
as you declare the screw on top of the pendulum in your picture as a battery-holding unit. i think so, it's only to adjust the pendulum-weight for balance.

Not saying it IS a battery/coil, just pointing out two ways it might be fudged.
Look at his other video he has posted of a homopolar motor.... same size,style as the top of the pendulum.  Might be the reason to have 2 magnets on the top levers (one on top and bottom)... so the coil inside the pendulum top can repulse against the top lever magnet.
Just some thoughts... not saying it is.
More info, details, vids etc. would be required.....

Again, IMO the force needed to move the upper magnets levers and slides is more than the kick provided by the lower magnets.

Magluvin

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2010, 09:28:09 AM »
One reason that there are 2 magnets on each lever at the top is to counter balance the weight of the slide plate magnets. The lever at the top is not center, so it looks as if to need the extra weight to reduce the amount of force to lift the plates, considering where the fulcrum center is on each lever.

Magluvin

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2010, 10:25:06 AM »
@capthook
Thanks for your excellent pictorial analysis. I asked many of the same questions.
However the simplicity appeals to me.
The biggest question you raised in my opinion is the magnet in the slide we assume repels, and you rightly point out that its force must be greater than the force it provides (the kick) otherwise it would not go all the way down. However it does travel at a fair velocity so perhaps the momentum is enough to overcome the repelling force.
The other theory is that it is not in repulsion at all and it orientated to pull the pendulum towards it with the repulsion magnet at the top providing enough repulsion to overcome the attraction. That doesn't make sense but without further information we can only speculate.
Mark

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2010, 11:08:55 AM »

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2010, 05:04:55 PM »
Not saying it IS a battery/coil, just pointing out two ways it might be fudged.
sorry, if i stepped on your feet  ;D
but my english writing and grammar is not good enought. i also understood it the way that you're just give a possible place for batteries.

mike

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2010, 05:11:41 PM »
Pese
What do you think of this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us7YB7eiOeQ&feature=related

Oh, and nice to see you ;D ;D ;D

I hope all is well ,have a happy new year

Chet