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Author Topic: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)  (Read 30548 times)

wopwops

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Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« on: December 31, 2009, 10:39:45 AM »
YouTube desciption:

All of the magnets oppose one another. The machine has been operating for two years. Some people say that since it uses magnets, it is not perpetual motion. Magnets do eventually wear out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZjNbjhxgt4

WattBuilder

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2009, 01:03:48 PM »

Very Nice.

Well Done.   ;)


Howard





Paul-R

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2009, 01:20:49 PM »
YouTube desciption:

All of the magnets oppose one another. The machine has been operating for two years. Some people say that since it uses magnets, it is not perpetual motion. Magnets do eventually wear out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZjNbjhxgt4
Perpetual motion is a red herring. The question should be: Can it deliver power? The design needs generating coils
or a shaft which may supply output power.

Zorro

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2009, 02:54:09 PM »
if it works, it must produce power...

gyulasun

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2009, 03:02:10 PM »
Paul-R,

basically you are right, it would prove much better in the video if some pick up coils were feeding some LEDs but in fact the shown setup (if it is not a fake) already does work by keeping the mass of the central pendulum in a continuos motion, does not it?

Gyula

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2009, 03:09:13 PM »
wopwops

 Thank you for posting. I find you have done an excellent job. Have you tried to put a load on it, or is it pressed to run itself? Either way it still has a market for an office toy if nothing else.

Alan

PS. I think I will have to try this for my office.

wopwops

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2009, 03:29:02 PM »
Guys, I didn't build this. I just found it on YouTube.

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2009, 03:46:52 PM »
wopwops

 Thanks for owning up. It is easy to see a new poster with something new. We tend to relate these two thing together. But its a great find though.

Alan

Zorro

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2009, 03:47:46 PM »
so now you must build it and show us your device  ;D

maw2432

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2009, 03:50:08 PM »
@ Wopwops

Great find! 

Looks like the inventor did a great job of making it ajustable also. 

I hope someone makes a copy of this one before he takes it down.

Bill

wopwops

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2009, 03:54:15 PM »
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so now you must build it and show us your device

Well, I let Clanzer know about it.... As we all know, he's a bit busy at the moment.

ResinRat2

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2009, 03:55:27 PM »
It amazes me that someone would put all the time and effort into designing and crafting this unit. It looks very well built, like an artistic piece. Everything is clean, notice the levels, the wood staining, the polished metals, the grooves and fine workmanship. A beautiful display, but it looks faked somehow. One of the comments mentions the metal ball at the top (magnetic?).

It needs to be viewed openly at all angles, especially the top and underneath. My guess is there is a battery hidden at the top or down below.

This would look great in the waiting room of a large company. Thanks for posting this wopwops.

Perpetual Motion? This I doubt.

Zorro

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2009, 03:57:59 PM »
i hope there is no hidden power, also it does't  work in vacuum.

powercat

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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2009, 04:06:25 PM »
wopwops thanks for posting, I sent the guy a message telling him about your thread.
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Re: Pendulum with Magnets (All opposing)
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2009, 04:14:08 PM »
Those sheets being lowered and raised insde those sleeves. Supposing these have a magnetic repulsion take to perform on that hammer sized stack of magnets at the bottom of the pendulum, I wonder who they could slide with apparently no friction. The (for the viewer) lateral force would be signicant, and fulctuating, I would expect?
A work of art for sure. Yet, it seems simple enough for a Lego builder to replicate. Some thing are going on, but it's a transparent design.
The design has some features that vague came to my mind in bits and pieces. I wonder though, what the claimed reason would be, for it to work. The way angles between magnets cyclicly changes, perhaps?
As with all such contraptions, I wonder how much it can be loaded before it stalls, hidden battery, or no hidden battery.