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Author Topic: Cooling effects in Steorn eOrbo  (Read 29166 times)

Offline PaulLowrance

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Re: Cooling effects in Steorn eOrbo
« Reply #90 on: December 31, 2009, 04:49:53 PM »
Oh I forgot to mention that the AC voltage on half of the toroid winding doubles when the other half is shorted. This may not mean much, as it could be due to capacitance.

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Re: Cooling effects in Steorn eOrbo
« Reply #90 on: December 31, 2009, 04:49:53 PM »

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Re: Cooling effects in Steorn eOrbo
« Reply #91 on: December 31, 2009, 07:21:37 PM »
Oh I forgot to mention that the AC voltage on half of the toroid winding doubles when the other half is shorted. This may not mean much, as it could be due to capacitance.

I think this IS VERY IMPORTANT!

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Re: Cooling effects in Steorn eOrbo
« Reply #92 on: January 04, 2010, 08:07:11 AM »
IMO Steorn cop>1 claim is legit, and since Steorn claims to have done calorimeter test, the only thing that makes sense is that the cooling effect is not energy coming from ambient thermal energy, but might only be a side effect of whatever is happening. That's assuming Steorn is able to get cop>1 on demand anytime. All I know is that I cannot explain what occurred in the full video where the core cooled 2.9°F.

Who knows, maybe the energy comes from the quantum foam (ZPE), and maybe this has an initial cooling effect.  :-\

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Re: Cooling effects in Steorn eOrbo
« Reply #92 on: January 04, 2010, 08:07:11 AM »
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Re: Cooling effects in Steorn eOrbo
« Reply #93 on: January 04, 2010, 12:48:51 PM »
   Cooling effect hmmmm.   Heat appears to be randomized dispersion of mass velociity.  A cooling suggests a more ordered state of mass velocity.  I dare say within the core of the Sun there isnt alot of randomized movement at all.  Very cold. Imagine if you have the ability a single particle which does not refract reflect or scatter in anyway photons but incorporates them into its intrinsic oscillations.  Not fusion or fission those are byproducts of the little monopole the Sun's got going.

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Re: Cooling effects in Steorn eOrbo
« Reply #94 on: January 08, 2010, 05:11:09 PM »

About 4 days ago I was able to reproducing the cooling effect in magnets, except this time an entirely different method was used. The recent setup consisted of taking a ferrite rod with coil placed over a NdFeB magnets, and then shorting the coil across a 40000uF 50V capacitor such that it caused the ferrite rod to repel the NdFeB. Between the NdFeB and ferrite rod was an insulator. The temperature was measured with a tiny 402 SMD thermistor.

In this recent setup there was no spinning or moving magnets, yet the magnets rapidly cooled by 1.6°F. This recent setup used another batch of fresh NdFeB magnets. As what happened during the first setup, this effect faded with usage so that now these magnets show no cooling effect. Actually, they heat up a little bit during the experiments now.

To recap, the 1st setup showed a cooling of 3°F. The 2d setup showed cooling of 1.6°F.

I think this cooling effect explains the Steorn cop>1 / excess energy claim. In early 2009 I documented very simple methods of detecting long term magnetic viscosity effects where a magnet could be demagnetized by a slight amount or even strengthened a bit, and when left alone the magnet would slowly recover, on the order of hours to weeks, depending on the magnet and how much it was changed. This occurs in all magnetic materials, but is easily seen in permanent magnets. So I believe the cooling effect was due to noticeable demagnetization of the NdFeB magnets, which will causes a cooling effect due to MCE (magnetocaloric effect). My early 2009 experiments showed that the magnet slow recovers, so that's why it would be excess energy / cop>1.

Now what I was measuring was significant temperature drops, ~ 3°F, which is a good amount of energy relative to what Steorn is showing, especially when we consider that the magnets were spinning at ~ 10000 rpm. So IMO Steorn is taking advantage of short term magnetic viscosity, on the order of milli to 100's micro seconds, and of course magnets recover just as fast for short term magnetic viscosity.

In the Steorn device the magnets would cool by such small amounts that it's probably not measurable.

Anyhow, that's at least the theory. We'll have to see if it's true.

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Re: Cooling effects in Steorn eOrbo
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Re: Cooling effects in Steorn eOrbo
« Reply #95 on: January 08, 2010, 09:13:25 PM »

Has anyone built equipment capable of re-magnetizing NdFeB magnets?  I'm about to build the following with what I have here. According to FEMM & LTspice, I should get a magnetic field of ~ 36000 Gauss. That assumes my capacitors are in good condition, and have a comparable ESR to similar capacitors sold at digikey.com.

The NdFeB are 2" long, 1" diameter. Also there will be a long steel rod connected to one side of the NdFeB magnet to help increase the field. The coil is 0.5" wide, 0.5", 0.55" ID, deep, 1.05" OD. Coil inductance according to FEMM is 155uH, if square wire is used.  The coil will be shorted to 4 * 1500uF 250 volt capacitors for a total of 6000uF. That should bring the peak current up to 1085 amps for a brief moment. The only problem is the current needs to halted after 3ms, otherwise the current flips due to oscillations due to capacitance & inductance.

Anyway, maybe my caps are junk. They're very old, so we'll see how much current it really peaks to.

 

 

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