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Airstriker

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Re: Unbalanced weight scale...or what to call it
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2014, 11:54:41 PM »
Quote from: LibreEnergia on May 08, 2014, 11:45:56 PM
None of these ideas that seek to create a 'continuous overbalance' condition can ever work without the addition of external energy.

My advice is to stop wasting time on such nonsense.


Why should we stop ? Proving whether it works or not is better than any other puzzle ;)
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LibreEnergia

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Re: Unbalanced weight scale...or what to call it
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2014, 12:04:57 AM »
Quote from: Airstriker on May 08, 2014, 11:54:41 PM

Why should we stop ? Proving whether it works or not is better than any other puzzle ;)

It has already been proven conclusively that it can not work. Read up on Noether's theorem.
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Dusty

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Re: Unbalanced weight scale...or what to call it
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2014, 09:58:39 PM »
This video is for Low-Q's eyes only.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsoUemkAmHo&feature=youtu.be


First attempt failed but I'm rebuilding right now.
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Dusty

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Re: Unbalanced weight scale...or what to call it
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2014, 02:00:54 AM »
Unlisted test #2:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuMkLBtUf9g&feature=youtu.be


At least I had fun trying to build a better mouse trap.
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andrea

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Re: Unbalanced weight scale...or what to call it
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2014, 10:49:38 AM »
Quote from: Dusty on May 10, 2014, 02:00:54 AM
Unlisted test #2:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuMkLBtUf9g&feature=youtu.be


At least I had fun trying to build a better mouse trap.

Hi Dusty, you could try to put  magnets for tilt the basis in the two position. Two magnets, up and down, so the ball go from one position to another when the basis moves. Of course, the ball shouldn't be influenced by magnets (or it loses weight: maybe it could be made of lead, or brass). Bye
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Airstriker

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Re: Unbalanced weight scale...or what to call it
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2014, 10:42:22 PM »
Quote from: LibreEnergia on May 09, 2014, 12:04:57 AM
It has already been proven conclusively that it can not work. Read up on Noether's theorem.


So what are you doing here? You won't stop these guys - if it's what you want ;)
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fletcher

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Re: Unbalanced weight scale...or what to call it
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2014, 10:45:35 PM »
Noether's Theorem isn't called Noether's Law for a reason.
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MarkE

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Re: Unbalanced weight scale...or what to call it
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2014, 11:22:07 PM »
Quote from: fletcher on May 12, 2014, 10:45:35 PM
Noether's Theorem isn't called Noether's Law for a reason.
That is true. 

If there is a cheat to Noether it could mean that time machines are possible.  That could be interesting.  Then someone in the future where such machines might be developed could have come back and corrected those of us who expect that Noether was right.  Then again those people from that future might all have been teases. 

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fletcher

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Re: Unbalanced weight scale...or what to call it
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2014, 11:41:56 PM »
LOL - or subject to the time travelers Prime Directive - 'look but don't touch' due to potential unintended consequences.
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MarkE

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Re: Unbalanced weight scale...or what to call it
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2014, 05:51:50 AM »
Quote from: fletcher on May 12, 2014, 11:41:56 PM
LOL - or subject to the time travelers Prime Directive - 'look but don't touch' due to potential unintended consequences.
Do time travelers spend a lot of time in "gentlemen's clubs"?
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iacob alex

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Re: Unbalanced weight scale...or what to call it
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2014, 11:51:50 PM »
   Hi  Low Q ,
You have a private message about your idea.
In my opinion you are on the verge to realize your unbalanced weight scale (I call it self-running/automata seesaw...simply a gravity mechanical oscillator ).
All you need: a simple hinged arm,a bigger size , the condition for a continuous unbalance(colinearity of fulcrum with the two masses ) ...and some tests.
I wish you success , again! It can be the first step to a gravity motor...a self-moving/swinging scale...
    Al_ex
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ARMCORTEX

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Re: Unbalanced weight scale...or what to call it
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2014, 02:26:30 AM »
I have re-discovered an idea by purelyprimitives.

You guys might find this interesting. See he videos of purelyprimitives for further info.

Whats driving the weight is centrifugal force, the motor is on the arm, and is totally disconnected from load.

The trick is to be able to extract the full potential of the joule/sec of the mass in motion. 8900 joules/sec

It has some Skinner like tendencies.

http://www.overunity.com/14817/purelyprimitives-pendulum-power/msg413646/#new
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