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Author Topic: From prototype of Testatika to New Model of BTG  (Read 207481 times)

Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model BTG
« Reply #300 on: November 17, 2010, 01:53:46 AM »
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what does the poll ask? [please]
Chet
Try this?

Question says:
Opening of secret Тестатики and creation new БезТопливных Generators of energy

The 4th word is probably "Testatika"
The 8th & 9th words were untranslatable by any Internet Russian-English site I tried.


Responses, from the top:

1) Energy of a magnet
2) Nuclear Energy
3) "Stream of energy ЭМ of field Мотовилова "

Offhand translation of question?
"What do you think the source of Testatika's power is?"

My personal answer, in English:
The source is about the same as other influence machines of the early 20th century.  Testatika's uses electromagnetic forces the same as the other machines, but then it ionizes air to increase power by that peculiar action.  Ions and/or electrons charge the capacitors further than would ordinarily be the case.  It emits radiation during operation, I've read.

To reply to the poll exactly, I would actually vote #1 & #2 equally.  As for #3, it might say that field energy from the motor or environment contributes to the power generation.

If so?  I would vote for all 3 equally.

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model BTG
« Reply #300 on: November 17, 2010, 01:53:46 AM »

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model BTG
« Reply #301 on: November 17, 2010, 08:58:38 AM »

1) Energy of a magnet
2) Nuclear Energy
3) "Stream of energy ЭМ of field Мотовилова "


Energy of a magnet - it is permanent magnets dipole field interactions
Nuclear Energy - internal energy of atom kernel. We can dispose one though  different interactions
Stream of energy - it is energy from environment space. We have not atom kernel destructions or merges.

About Testatica. Main action we using for experiments. It is not electrons charge the capacitors. Please see previous explanation in English in the thread begin.

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model of BTG
« Reply #302 on: November 17, 2010, 09:07:44 AM »
ОК. Правильный ответ. Кстати, в Китае делают новые модели БТГ сразу в нескольких крупных  научных центрах. Г-н Ли проявляет интерес по научной части гаджетов. Мы можем им помочь.

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model of BTG
« Reply #302 on: November 17, 2010, 09:07:44 AM »
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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model of BTG
« Reply #303 on: November 17, 2010, 10:04:56 AM »
ОК. Правильный ответ. Кстати, в Китае делают новые модели БТГ сразу в нескольких крупных  научных центрах. Г-н Ли проявляет интерес по научной части гаджетов. Мы можем им помочь.

нам бы самим себе помочь... зачем нам китайцы?

в ходе работы над технологией удаленного эксперимента - пришел к выводу, что от технологии уже полностью автоматизированного эксперимента, подбора параметров и сбора результатов по программе остается практически один шаг... :)

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model of BTG
« Reply #304 on: November 17, 2010, 10:07:25 AM »
Хороший стенд и скрупулёзная поисковая работа - залог успеха любого эксперимента.

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model of BTG
« Reply #304 on: November 17, 2010, 10:07:25 AM »
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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model of BTG
« Reply #305 on: November 17, 2010, 11:54:31 AM »
Привет! Евгений, а как со схемой экспериментов, прежняя?
Я все с однонаправленными импульсами вожусь, к ВН колебаниям в качестве инициирующего воздействия, с малыми токами возвращаться не буду.

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model of BTG
« Reply #306 on: November 17, 2010, 01:13:53 PM »
Привет! Евгений, а как со схемой экспериментов, прежняя?
Я все с однонаправленными импульсами вожусь, к ВН колебаниям в качестве инициирующего воздействия, с малыми токами возвращаться не буду.

От механики полностью отказался. Схема прежняя. Конвергатор порошковый с высоковольтной обмоткой против шерсти и магнитная волна от двух обмоток, на которые подаются импульсы со сдвигом фаз. Сюда же будет добавлен эксперимент по схеме:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9688.0;attach=47378

этими методами просто расширяю экспериментальную зону.

Вчера сосканировал ИК команды с неиспользуемого пульта ДУ. Сегодня буду пытаться писать программу для контроллера в протеусе для их декодирования. Всего у меня предусмотрено будет 24 коммутации (с запасом) сигнальными релюшками, чтобы переключать шупы осцилографа удаленно по контрольным точкам... + включение/выключение питания схемы и т.д.

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model of BTG
« Reply #306 on: November 17, 2010, 01:13:53 PM »
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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model of BTG
« Reply #307 on: November 17, 2010, 03:51:15 PM »
Серьезный подход, у меня все попроще.
Вместо двух обмоток возбуждения - одна, в которой собственно и находится туба с порошком. Волны в Вашем понимании нет, но зато равномерность магнитного поля тоже хорошее дело.
Проблема в создании нужного короткого ТОКОВОГО импульса, такого чтобы было видно его воздействие на крупинки порошка.
Прерывание дуги - то что надо, мощных реле надолго не хватает.
Я пока без конвергатора экспериментирую, с рассыпанным внутри катушки на белой бумаге порошком. Можно неплохо изучать картины взаимодействий по остаточной намагниченности.

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model BTG
« Reply #308 on: November 18, 2010, 12:27:37 AM »
Energy of a magnet - it is permanent magnets dipole field interactions
Nuclear Energy - internal energy of atom kernel. We can dispose one though  different interactions
The "atom kernal" is the atomic nucleus?  If so, I understand.
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Stream of energy - it is energy from environment space. We have not atom kernel destructions or merges.
No ionization of air?  No nuclear fusion?  If so, I understand.  However, I came across this, which is why I implied 'radiation':
http://energy21.freeservers.com/swiss.html
The Swiss were said to be using radium-containing capacitors.  I'm not saying you are.  They may have.  If you can do without the radiation, that's very good.
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About Testatica. Main action we using for experiments. It is not electrons charge the capacitors. Please see previous explanation in English in the thread begin.
I looked at Replies #'s 14 & 15 on this thread.  The Diode is amplifying the power from the turning wheels?  If so, it's a good idea.  But they never did explain how they did it, did they?

Some links:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/29018622/Testatika-Swiss-M-L-Converter-Plans-1995-30pp

http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/testatika_and_hyde_generator.htm

--Lee

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model BTG
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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model BTG
« Reply #309 on: November 18, 2010, 04:12:52 AM »
The "atom kernal" is the atomic nucleus?

Yes you are right. Sorry my English.

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If so, I understand.No ionization of air?

We have ionization of air. But reason is different. We have spark gap. Spark gap is used to produce
short current impulse in the winding around rectifier diode.

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However, I came across this, which is why I implied 'radiation':
http://energy21.freeservers.com/swiss.html
The Swiss were said to be using radium-containing capacitors.

Very interesting link. Thanks. Main idea is Cold Fusion and Nuclear Reactor. We have different concept but using similar way to produce additional power.  Material for "capacitor" can be different. Swiss used radium. We using different soft magnetic powders and nanocrystalline alloys (like MEG by Berden). I don't wont to have radiation and I am sure my experiment does not produce one.

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I looked at Replies #'s 14 & 15 on this thread

Please read #12. It have some additional explains. Does it sense for you?

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The Diode is amplifying the power from the turning wheels?

Energy not from turning wheels. Turning wheels (charges of wheel) and short current impulse though spark gap is used to activate Rectifier Diode material. All these are used to have conditions to produce magnetic monopoles (or something else) in the material. Magnetic monopoles are used to collect energy from environment space.

I am guess all real overunity devices using single overunity effect but in different ways.
We comparing this experiment and other projects like as MEG,Kapanadze,Berden,Stive Mark and etc...

« Last Edit: November 18, 2010, 03:08:04 PM by eugin_b »

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model of BTG
« Reply #310 on: November 18, 2010, 09:27:32 PM »
Проверяю идею генерации электрического поля созданием спирального магнитного. Набор опытов прост, идея та же: наложением двух ортогональных э/м полей на ферромагнитное вещество создать электрическое поле вдоль тубы конвергатора.
Ортогональные столкновения потоков эфира однозначно создают вихревые структуры по аналогии с процессами в воздухе и воде.
Закручивание в спираль магнитной составляющей э/м поля приводит к образованию электрической составляющей поля внутри спирали.
   Ð”митрий Николаевич, если хотите, откройте тут же веточку для меня с оглавлением типа: "Методы генерации постоянных  электрических полей и их практическая реализация", потому как и правда от Тестатики далековато ушло. Если не мешает, пусть будет здесь.

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model of BTG
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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model BTG
« Reply #311 on: November 18, 2010, 10:57:29 PM »
Yes you are right. Sorry my English.
No problem.  You're English is something I understand most of the time.
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We have ionization of air. But reason is different. We have spark gap. Spark gap is used to produce
short current impulse in the winding around rectifier diode.
Very good!  I see the concept.  I've downloaded schematics from :   http:///www.001-lab.com   , but hardly any involving Testatika replications.
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Very interesting link. Thanks. Main idea is Cold Fusion and Nuclear Reactor. We have different concept but using similar way to produce additional power.  Material for "capacitor" can be different. Swiss used radium. We using different soft magnetic powders and nanocrystalline alloys (like MEG by Berden). I don't wont to have radiation and I am sure my experiment does not produce one.
Good.  Strong ionic radiation is dangerous.  Your Spark gap should do the same thing.
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Please read #12. It have some additional explains. Does it sense for you?
Here's Reply #12's text:
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"BTG it is Fuelless Power Generator

Our development and investigation based on "Theory Energy Flow" by Motovilov D.N.
According to one we can extract energy we need from the environment space
The problem is we can't extract this energy directly
Single way to produce more power we spent to use special quantum state of the
different materials. According to classic view of phisics we may have different electrical
charges(+ & -) and magnetic dipoles. But special quantum state can produce a new
short-living elements (magnetic charges or momopoles). Magnetic charges it are parts of the
well-known magnetic dipoles and can extract energy from the environment space
Many well-known devices was analyzed and we convinced the main reason of the extra
power it is ability to produce magnetic charges and ability to collect additional
energy from environment space

See the picture below how Magnetic Charges may occured!
Magnetic Charges can do movements and produce special magnetic fields and special Magnetic-Elecricity"

(Original drawing of two atomic nucleii interacting.)
Well, the concept is one I've never heard of before.
So, then, subjecting matter to spark gap power can create short-lived elements that contain or emit monopoles?  The monopoles interact with matter in its vicinity can create more power than was consumed first?  You can collect the power by the usual electrical means?  Would that be correct?
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Energy not from turning wheels. Turning wheels (charges of wheel) and short current impulse though spark gap is used to activate Rectifier Diode material.
Right.  Very good.  That makes sense.  Wheels produce the spark gap that begins the completed reaction in the Diode.  If so, I see.
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All these are used to have conditions to produce magnetic monopoles (or something else) in the material. Magnetic monopoles are used to collect energy from environment space.
Okay.  Maybe a lot of energy is available.  But, what happens to the magnetic monopoles?  Where do they go?
Also, what do you think of these?
http://xenophilius.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/large-scale-cousin-of-elusive-magnetic-monopoles-found-at-nist/

http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=29275&sid=12e81d9947eaa058e30fde1476228bdf

What effect do your theoretical or practical machines have in common with natural hurricanes/typhoons and tornadoes?  The Testatika would run indefinitely, and a tornado will run out of energy eventually---even though some New Age advocates claim tornadoes and hurricanes produce magnetic monopoles naturally.  That's what they say.  I don't know for sure.
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I am guess all real overunity devices using single overunity effect but in different ways.
We comparing this experiment and other projects like as MEG,Kapanadze,Berden,Stive Mark and etc...
I agree.  Different devices can use more than one way to attempt achieving overunity.  If you can gain from their work, so much the better.

This is a very interesting discussion in English.  Especially for the American and British Members of Overunity.com

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model BTG
« Reply #312 on: November 19, 2010, 08:59:48 AM »
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Very good!  I see the concept.  I've downloaded schematics from :   http:///www.001-lab.com   , but hardly any involving Testatika replications.

Do you mean SR replication? If no please send direct link to schematic

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Good.  Strong ionic radiation is dangerous.  Your Spark gap should do the same thing.


Yes you are right...I made few experiments without spark gap. It was quick MOSFET and 400ns current impulses.
Looks like spark gap is very good and effective but not single way. Any way current impulse in the diode winding
will produce strong EM radiation like as phone cell I can't eliminate. Therefore at the moment I am woking on the
Remote Controled Experiment part of this project. Also I will use spark gap in the remote controlled experiment.

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Well, the concept is one I've never heard of before.

Yes. It is original theory by autor this thread. Additional info in the reply #52 about main theory.
Thomas Bearden has theory "Energy from Vacume". He also used magnetic charges in the theory.

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So, then, subjecting matter to spark gap power can create short-lived elements that contain or emit monopoles? 
The monopoles interact with matter in its vicinity can create more power than was consumed first?
 You can collect the power by the usual electrical means?  Would that be correct?

Yes you are right. But spark gap it is not single condition to create short-lived elements. Additionally We need
correct magnetic wave. Turning wheels needs to create correct magnetic wave in the material rectifier diode.
Current impulse has direction against correct magnetic wave. Combination of them needs to create short-lived elements.

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Okay.  Maybe a lot of energy is available.  But, what happens to the magnetic monopoles?  Where do they go?
Also, what do you think of these?
about links... All these nearest our reseach. At the moment I have not strong science explains all of them.
Therefore I just believe a short-lived elements in the activated material can produce more power...
About magnetic monopoles. They works according to theory in "reply #52".

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What effect do your theoretical or practical machines have in common with natural hurricanes/typhoons and tornadoes?

Really I have not example of practival machines. All practical machines I known have not overunity effect...
But simple example I think it is whirlpool in the river. Energy it is big river we can't sence (see compound EMF in the theory).
short-lived elements may produce micro whirlpools in the energy river within diode body. Here we looking additional power.
:)

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model BTG
« Reply #313 on: November 19, 2010, 11:40:43 PM »
Do you mean SR replication? If no please send direct link to schematic
Well, I did a translation of all the forums on...

 http://www.001-lab.com

...with this translator:

http://www.translation-services-usa.com/russian.php

There were no forums dealing with just Testatika replication schemes as such.  There was a posting to a thread like this...
Re: Униполярная индукция, безопорное движение, двигатель/генератор Фарадея
...which does deal with "unsupported" mechanical unipolar electric generation of Faraday-type inductance means.
(I gain the impression this is fairly accurate from looking at drawing diagrams on the thread.  I can find what I'm interested in by looking at wiring schematics first, since I don't actually read Russian.)

I can't remember seeing any thread subject that concerns Testatika only, but I didn't translate all the threads, either.  That would take quite awhile.  I did post some comments about Testatika on...     http://www.Overunity.com
...but that was months ago.

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Re: From prototype of Testatika to New Model BTG
« Reply #314 on: November 20, 2010, 05:40:01 PM »
I can't remember seeing any thread subject that concerns Testatika only, but I didn't translate all the threads, either.  That would take quite awhile.  I did post some comments about Testatika on...     http://www.Overunity.com


I found this thread but...I don't think ideas in that thread interest for me... I think overunity effect can't be found through classic vision. I know many threads about Testatika concept but... but I have same think about all of them... I think must be main concept for all overunity devices but all authors can't develop one...

 

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