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brian334

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Oil turns into life
« on: December 10, 2009, 10:23:13 PM »

Oil is created inside the earth, than it floats to the surface and makes all organic things, including life.
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mr_bojangles

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Re: Oil turns into life
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2009, 10:45:20 PM »
it started out as life too
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brian334

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Re: Oil turns into life
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2009, 11:19:28 PM »
That is not something I understand.
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mr_bojangles

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Re: Oil turns into life
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2009, 12:19:48 AM »
"Crude oil was made over millions of years from tiny plants and animals, called plankton. The plankton on the left would form oil in about 150 million years time if the sea bed is not disturbed.
The plankton are trapped under many layers of sand and mud. Over millions of years, the dead animals and plants got buried deeper and deeper. The heat and pressure gradually turned the mud into rock and the dead animals and plants into oil and gas."

quote from http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_oil_made_of

In the leading theory, dead organic material accumulates on the bottom of oceans, riverbeds or swamps, mixing with mud and sand. Over time, more sediment piles on top and the resulting heat and pressure transforms the organic layer into a dark and waxy substance known as kerogen.

Left alone, the kerogen molecules eventually crack, breaking up into shorter and lighter molecules composed almost solely of carbon and hydrogen atoms. Depending on how liquid or gaseous this mixture is, it will turn into either petroleum or natural gas.
quote^ from http://www.livescience.com/environment/051011_oil_origins.html
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brian334

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Re: Oil turns into life
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2009, 12:59:28 AM »
Oil is lighter than both water and rock, so how can water and rock be on top of oil? The only answer is the oil is created below water and rock.
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mr_bojangles

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Re: Oil turns into life
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2009, 02:04:00 AM »
yes i believe that is what they are saying, it doesnt turn into oil until after it was buried and pressure and heat are applied
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mapsrg

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Re: Oil turns into life
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2009, 07:48:28 AM »
I like the nonfossil origin of oil which fits with the facts better than the main stream theories of buried dinosaurs Etc. This theory also means hydrocarbons are continuously created and so peak oil is a myth.



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brian334

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Re: Oil turns into life
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2009, 10:58:54 PM »
If the earth makes oil that means the chemical composition and density of the earth changes constantly.
If the density of the earth is changing because people are using oil what will that do to the orbit of the earth around the sun?
A little change in the earths orbit around the sun will cause big changes in your life.
You will either become toast or ice cream.
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Judges

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Re: Oil turns into life
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 08:52:13 AM »
I spent a very large part of my life drilling oil wells.

When drilling into a formation containing oil/gas,the resulting
release of the pressure below,by intrusion of the drill string,
can produce a blow out that can quite well compare to a tornado or a hurricane. I know this to be true,been there,done that.

Mother nature is strong beyond belief.

Joe in Texas
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Azorus

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Re: Oil turns into life
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 12:33:50 PM »
@ brian
The earths density doesn't change until mass is taken away from earth.  Do you think because you are walking around on earth you are taking away it's density?  Seriously give me a break what are you 8?  Thinking that because we drill oil up it changes the density of earth...
So the only time earth's density changes is when an object lifted off of earth ie. satellites, spaceships.  Other than that earths density remains relatively unchanged.
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pcjunkie

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Re: Oil turns into life
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2009, 04:29:16 PM »
Your all wrong - sort of.

Oil came from Plankton - yes
Those plankton existed for 60 million years.
The oil we are using is that old.

Bacteria break down plankton into sugars and fats.
The fats bind to form colloids.
Some of them are taken back up, others remain on the ocean floor as saturated oils.
They eventually get pressure cooked and that pressure separates the water from the fats and oils. The heating actually breaks it down into gas. Think about it.

Crude oil Ch18
Diesel CH14
Petrol CH12
Propane CH8
All made in a pressure cooker - a cracker.
So basically yes - algae and plant matter / bacteria and anything made of carbon would have settled on ocean floors but bacteria broke it down into fats and proteins and sugars first. We are using 1% of what existed over those 60 million years the rest having been recycled.

As for the original post. Crude oil is full of toxins from minerals that were also deposited at the same time. Some is nasty - some is sulphates. Oil breaks down into many things given its C structure it can take on almost any form and bind with almost any other species on the periodic table.

Benzine is the worst of them but PAH is also as bad. Crude oil does not for a basis for life.

Life came before oil - long before!

The biggest chains of Carbon are made from organic life - CH6 is the heaviest natural compound of C and H you will find everywhere. Anything longer than that - starches, sugars, cellulose, oils, fats all were made organically.
 




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brian334

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Re: Oil turns into life
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2009, 11:05:04 PM »
Where did the original carbon, hydrogen and oxygen come from?
I say it comes from inside the earth.

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brian334

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Re: Oil turns into life
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2009, 01:30:06 AM »
If dead stuff turns into oil, than dead stuff and oil should have the same chemical composition. All of the minerals in life should be in oil.
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brian334

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Re: Oil turns into life
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2009, 03:06:28 AM »
Are there meteors mixed in with the oil? If the oil formed at the bottom of the ocean than there should meteors mixed in. When was the last time some one pumped a meteor out of a oil well? 
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ResinRat2

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Re: Oil turns into life
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2009, 03:02:54 PM »
I was just curious if anyone can point to a link that references an experiment that took dead organic material, subjected this material to the theoretical pressure and conditions that it was thought were required to form oil, and then actually obtained synthetic oil as a chemical product?

Please post it here for our reference. Thanks.

RR2
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