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Author Topic: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit  (Read 112763 times)

AlienGrey

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #90 on: March 01, 2019, 01:05:11 PM »
The schematics Wesley has republished recently on his thread look interesting but are so blurred I can't work on them to translate
and we would need more information on the wound coil data or photo to be of help, how about some more focus on that section?
« Last Edit: March 01, 2019, 04:15:58 PM by AlienGrey »

Johan_1955

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #91 on: March 01, 2019, 03:20:02 PM »
Maybe Tesla Pierce Arrow is a myth but there were others with electric car powered by ether. Like Perrigo, Earl C.Amman and his brother.

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #92 on: March 01, 2019, 03:52:22 PM »
Johan  great to see you....were your ears ringing yesterday ? [Folk lore about when some one talks about you here ,your ears ring]was mentioning "soap" and water ....
and how a ball was dropped by some !!
Hope I can call you soon !!?
Chet

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #93 on: March 01, 2019, 03:58:56 PM »
Proof that it worked, they made their fortune and today everyone drives an air-powered car.   ;D

We shouldn't believe everything they say in the least article of newspapers. Not only are articles deliberately false because sensationalism attracts the buyer, but also many are incomplete because essential points have been omitted by journalists who do not understand them.

AlienGrey

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #94 on: March 01, 2019, 04:25:53 PM »
Free energy guy made an FE car says he got rid of the jerks in the motor but got killed by the jerks
He had big idea's so where are they now ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFfsEfnsA4I
make your own why not ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMDoSLPUn80

stivep

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #95 on: March 01, 2019, 04:41:13 PM »
The schematics Wesley has republished recently on his thread look interesting but are so blurred I can't work on them to translate
and we would need more information on the wound coil data or photo to be of help, how about some more focus on that section?

https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532030/#msg532030

Now you have it
Everything including winding instructions is there.

here is set of HQ schematics that will oversize the page
one additional schematic  in good quality  is located  (2  posts above  post from link  on Wesley's forum.)
only one  schematic was not translated.

total 6 schematics
Ask these few  controversial  Russians for help.
You will see who  is who immediately

Wesley
« Last Edit: March 02, 2019, 12:45:47 AM by stivep »

SolarLab

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #96 on: March 01, 2019, 10:08:47 PM »
As a supplement to just throwing cartoons up on the threads;
try these approaches as well:

MicroCAP Circuit Simulator: [evaluation version available at no cost]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=micro-cap+12

http://www.spectrum-soft.com/demodownnew.shtm

Enter the schematic into MicroCAP, evaluate it; then publish the findings and
results - quite sure it would be very useful to varify, at least to some extent,
the blind schematics and cartoons before spreading.

Also Required: [evaluation versions are available at no cost]

Since some of the components (grenade coil and TV yoke torriod transformer,
for example) need parameters that are not common (yet) we have to perform a
full ElectroMagnetic (EM) simulation using other, more suited, analysis software
(Comsol, CST, Ansys, etc. in conjunction with bench analysis. Once the parameters
are found they can then be imported over to the circuit simulator and a complete
simulation of the device can be accurately completed.

Physical Test Set: [most already have the needed T&M instruments]

Parallel to the simulations and parameter determinations, a "test setup"
(Test Set V1 or V2) is used to physically varify component parameters and
characteristics on the bench. Test Sets V1 and V2 along with the application notes
is available elsewhere and is currently being evaluated and Alpha tested by a select
number of Maker groups.

 You may even be amazed at how quickly you will understand the system's
operation and it's underlying analysis. At worst you can quickly determine
a cartoons mistakes and flaws before waisting too much time and money on
attempting a repliation.

Good luck and keep up the great work!



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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #97 on: March 01, 2019, 11:41:02 PM »
Supposedly, the following is a newspaper story about C. Earl Ammann and his 'atmospheric generator' powered car:

Denver Post - Monday, August 8, 1921
Denver Man Invents Generator That Takes Electricity From Air & Propels Automobile
Believes He has Apparatus that will Revolutionize Power & Lighting & Gives it a Test on Streets of City

Has an invention been made that will revolutionize the electrical world? Will the apparatus conceived by
a Denver man light buildings, run automobiles, battleships, power plants by the unlimited supply of electricity
in the air? Denver electrical experts say "yes", and the young inventor, C. Earl Ammann, Monday demonstrated his
invention by attaching it to an old automobile and running it about the city.

An atmospheric generator is the name of Ammann’s apparatus. It is a compact, cylindrical object with two small
brass spheres protruding from the top. Inside, Ammann says, is an arrangement of steel wires and minerals,
so fixed as to draw the electricity from the air, condense it and utilize it for driving power.
The automobile which Ammann used for his demonstration Monday was the body and chassis of an electric vehicle.
There are said to be no batteries in the car. It propelled itself with remarkable speed at the touch of the foot,
climbed hills and glided through a maze of traffic under easy control.

Careful To Conceal His Invention ~
When asked by skeptical persons if he had a storage battery concealed inside of the power cylinder, Ammann said:
"As badly as I would like to show the inside of my invention, I can’t, for I have not yet obtained the patent rights.
It would be exposing the result of seven years of work to open the cylinder. I leave for Washington this week to obtain
the patent rights. When I return I will gladly show everything and I can only say, wait until then and time will tell.
"I have bucked every law of the textbooks to perfect the invention. It appears on the order of the wireless telephone but
it is decidedly different, except that the electricity is derived from the air. It will run anywhere except under water.
The automobile is only a simple test. The generator will light buildings, do away with steam turbines, and, in fact,
propel any kind of engine motor".
J. N. Davis, the proprietor of the Davis Electric Garage company, at 921 East 14th Avenue, and one of the oldest
electrical men in Denver, made a thorough study of the generator.

Electrical Man Has Faith In It ~
"I believe that Mr. Ammann has at least made the invention which will revolutionize power", Mr. Davis said. "Of course,
we don’t know what is inside of the generator and the inventor would be foolish to show us. We have long known that
certain minerals exist, which if properly arranged together, would furnish power. That, in substance, according to the
blueprints of the invention, is the basis of the whole thing.
"If the generator has been perfected to the extent that it will propel an automobile, the rest of its work is assured.
It will be the greatest invention of the age. The electricity obtained from the air, first passing through the
generator, would be available for any use". So impressed was Mr. Davis that he offered the use of his building for
Mr. Ammann’s headquarters. Ammann, who is but 28 years old, came to Denver from Spokane, Washington.
He is an electrical engineer and lives at the Argonaut Hotel.
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P.S.  I did a search in Google Patents for any patent applications by anyone with the name Ammann
between 1920 to 1930 and couldn't find any patent applications that seem to be by those two
Ammann brothers. If they ever did apply for a patent for their 'atmospheric generator', I couldn't find
it in my Google Patent search for between 1920 and 1930. If anyone finds a patent application by these
two brothers, let us know.



stivep

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #98 on: March 02, 2019, 12:42:43 AM »
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SolarLab

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #99 on: March 02, 2019, 06:31:46 AM »
 You may even be amazed at how quickly you will understand the system's
operation and it's underlying analysis. At worst you can quickly determine
a cartoons mistakes and flaws before waisting too much time and money on
attempting a repliation.

forest

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #100 on: March 02, 2019, 09:10:19 PM »
Void

You would not find any patent from Amman. I'm sure,  because some other inventors from this time were also supressed like Meyers. Perrigo got a patent but it's to cryptic to understand except one thing... 

P.S. Dig more to find other pictures or information. They are priceless. What is the name of Amman brother ?

Void

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #101 on: March 03, 2019, 05:52:04 PM »
Hi forest.  The only name I have seen for C. Earl Ammann's brother is J. E. Ammann.

P.S.
If the following story is accurate (I don't know if this is legit or not), then it appears that when
C. Earl Amman went to Washington D.C. to file for a patent, they instead laid charges against him
claiming his device was stealing electricity from the power lines. :)

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Fate Magazine, October 1956, pp. 123-125; "Report from the Readers"
Mysterious Invention

"The Hubbard Energy Transformer" brought back to me exciting memories of another inventor. In 1918,
while doing painting and decorating, I was hired to paper several bedrooms in a large two-story house.
While at this work I went down to the back porch to pick up some materials. I happened to glance at the
light meter [mains power meter] and saw it was not moving.

I opened the fuse box and saw the main power fuses had been removed. It took only a minute to make sure
the line had not been tapped beyond the meter.

The only member of the family at home at the time was a young man in his early twenties [C. Earl Ammann].
I asked him, "Earl, where do you get your juice? I noticed it does not come from the power lines".

"Come along and I’ll show you", he said. He led me up to the attic. He placed some steel bars on a work table
and picked up a coil which looked like a loose coupler. After placing the coils on the steel rods he touched the
opposite terminal. The bell rang with great force, and there was quite a spark, too.

I picked up the coils to make sure there was no contact with other appliances. I could see right through them.
There was no battery inside. The bell rang just as vigorously. The wire was iron.

In the basement Earl had what he called an Activator Transformer, the size of two fists, which had to be within
10 miles of the radius of the generator coils. The activator was not in contact with any visible wires or appliances.
It was activated by the electric currents which surge around the earth and activate the compass needle. By cutting
into these currents, Earl said, we can obtain unlimited power.

A year later Earl demonstrated his Cosmo Electric Generator in Denver. He had placed two copper spheres on the
front fenders of his car in place of the headlights. From these copper spheres he obtained enough power to drive
that old jalopy all over Denver as reported in the Denver Post at the time.

While Earl was demonstrating his invention all over the streets of Denver, the power had been cut off in the foothills.
In spite of this, when he went to Washington DC shortly afterward to try to obtain a patent on his Cosmo Electric Generator,
he found that charges had been filed against him claiming he had a device to steal power from the power lines.

K. H. Isselstein,
Spokane, WA
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http://rexresearch.com/feg/feg1.htm#amman

The Denver Post news story was written in Aug 1921 however, so the dates in the above story
don't match exactly, but I suppose that guy Isselstein could have mixed up the year. :)


forest

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #102 on: March 03, 2019, 09:32:48 PM »
Amman, Hubbard, Hendershot, Perrigo - 4 persons from the same time period saying the same thing - electricity taken from Earth field. This can't be mistake or accident. I bet if we could find more information about Daniel McFarland Cook he had similar concept.

forest

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #103 on: March 03, 2019, 09:41:53 PM »
Add also this fellow Roy Meyers to the list  http://www.viewzone.com/meyers/ , also almost the same period.
If you look at this tower prototype you will find the same kind of "thing" like in photo of Leedscalnin.
It's very frustrating they had superior methods than we could imagine without using current electronics.




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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #104 on: March 04, 2019, 04:31:54 PM »
Add also this fellow Roy Meyers to the list  http://www.viewzone.com/meyers/ , also almost the same period.
If you look at this tower prototype you will find the same kind of "thing" like in photo of Leedscalnin.
It's very frustrating they had superior methods than we could imagine without using current electronics.


Hi Forest. Yes, some very interesting claims/reports relating to those people. Because it is so long ago,
it is very hard to assess now however, but still very interesting. Also interesting that some mention using iron wire.
Not as good of a conductor as copper wire, so why were they using iron wire then? Things that make you go hmm...