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Author Topic: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit  (Read 59989 times)

Offline tim123

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #30 on: December 26, 2013, 08:40:54 PM »
Tim123: You're looking at it too simplistically.

I'm looking for a clear answer to a well defined question. I don't think that's being 'simplistic'.

I think you are being rather *vague* though, and i don't think any of the things you mention could have the effect in question.

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As noted earlier, when there is a discrepancy between theory and actual measurements, use the actual measurements.

I'm not ready to 'use' it at this stage - I want to understand it first!

What I'm looking for is a single plausible explanation for the effect in question. Just one will do!

It probably exists. I've probably already read it, and just not understood it - due to being a bit  slow. But right now it's still eluding me... And I think no one has given an answer to the question...

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2013, 09:29:53 PM »
Lightning is cold electricity, unlike the energy we use.  Thats why people survive being struck by it.  Didn't Tesla say that since his Wireless energy has no em field that it moves at 291,000 miles per second.  So use that in your equation.

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2013, 10:52:58 AM »
It doesn't work out...

291,000 miles / s = 468,319,104 metres per second

7.83 Hz would mean the circumference of the earth is 59,810,868 metres

PS: It's not *my* equation, it's *the* equation... I didn't come up with it. lol. I can barely tie my shoes :D

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2013, 10:52:58 AM »
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Re: 7.8 Hertz: Wave in Atmosphere or Wave in Ground?
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2013, 01:37:08 PM »
Hi Tim,

do not know where the Schumann Wave goes.

Either above Ground in the atmosphere or maybe it is a telluric (current) wave. (As far as I know, Tesla`s aim then was only telluric current).

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2013, 05:20:05 AM »
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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2013, 05:18:22 PM »
Tank circuits at those frequency's i don't think so.

I would try and build something mechanical to target the magnetic component of the Schumann Resonance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XghAn9olnsI

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2014, 11:48:07 AM »
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At Colorado Springs, Tesla used his magnifying transmitter in an attempt to artificially stimulate terrestrial standing waves. Based upon observations made with the device, Tesla reported that earth resonance modes involving an electric current flowing through the earth can be excited. He claimed to have discovered a fundamental earth resonance frequency of nearly 11.78 Hz, which is somewhat higher than the fundamental earth-ionosphere cavity Schumann resonance found to exist by researchers in the 1950s in the general vicinity of 7.3 Hz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnifying_transmitter

7.3? That's closer to the calculated value... I wonder if it's a typo?

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2014, 01:04:23 PM »
Actually it is constantly oscillating between two frequency's so it's not a constant value.
It speeds up then slows down between a min and max frequency with a change rate of about 1 Hz.
It's only an approximate with a center frequency somewhere between 7 and 8 Hertz.
This is easily discovered by doing experimentation.
Still the kinetic movement in a mechanical system is very low which translates into a low power output.
A better way is to target the electric field of the earth directly because then you can make it oscillate at any frequency you want and then you do not have to use mechanical means which is position dependant, causes more losses, needs maintance and replacement and which will wear down eventually so the all electric way is the preffered choice of mechanism.



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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2014, 02:21:18 PM »
Turbo
How do we touch that energy from inside a vac Tube ,or is it catch and release ?
 
thx
Chet

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2014, 04:01:00 PM »
Well Chet, the first thing that you have to understand very clearly is the Earth's field components.

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2014, 04:58:45 PM »
Turbo
The Elephant in the room....
those are some Big Components ,and they are so very used to getting their own way!
 
However there is something profoundly obvious about those components being a source to harvest from.....I feel like the potential is similar to waking up in a sea of Fuel with a book of wet Matches ...Scary big potential!
 
thx
Chet
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I have to say ,I've believed your claims for quite some time.
I believe the flea really can steer this Elephant !

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2014, 06:38:52 PM »
Ofcource it can the energy involved is insane but you have to make a decision first as to which circuit potential you are going to target.
The mechanisms are slightly different but the source of energy is always the earth's electric field.
Unless you are moving a coil through the earth's magnetic field that is the only exception but you would have to move it very fast to get to some usable output and it might cost a lot more energy to do that compared to what you get out.
In the other two cases you are using just voltage to offset or disturb the local environment so it reacts with a re balancing flux.
Normally people put a graetz diode bridge to a long wire and a ground terminal to tap the sky voltage but this does not deliver much energy at all and that is why you have to give the wire a high voltage charge to make it act as if it was hundreds of miles up in the air it is kinda like the electrical equivalent of the electromagnetic ferrite rod antenna to make things act as if they were huge.
So pick your component   :)

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2014, 06:55:29 PM »
I've come across a few refs today to 7.3, 7.4 Hz...

http://www.padrak.com/ine/NEN_6_8_10.html

1.  1.855  Hz  This is a Schuman resonance and is also seen in Rysmonic
                  GW resonance (÷ 2 Hz).
2.  3.710  Hz  This is also seen in Schuman.
3.  7.42   Hz  This is also seen in Schuman as a more pronounced
                  resonance.

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2014, 07:28:00 PM »
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...three requirements seem to be essential to the establishment of the resonating condition.

First. The earth’s diameter passing through the pole should be an odd multiple of the quarter wave length-that is, of the ratio between the velocity of light-wand four times the frequency of the currents...
US Patent 787412
N. TESLA.
ART OF TRANSMITTING ELECTRICAL ENERGY THROUGH THE NATURAL MEDIUMS.

So, practically for testing, I think I'll be using the 23rd harmonic at about 10m - 30Mhz I guess...
A quarter-wave monopole antenna would be 2.5m.

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Re: 7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2014, 07:30:12 PM »
...It's only an approximate with a center frequency somewhere between 7 and 8 Hertz.
This is easily discovered by doing experimentation.

H Turbo,
  I've seen your magnetic spinners experiment - it's interesting - but I'm not 100% convinced that it's showing evidence of the Schumann resonance - rather than the mechanical resonance of the arrangement... Maybe it is, I'm not sure... Maybe I'll try it myself - it is the only way forward ;)

I think - traditional scientists used very very large coils indeed to detect / measure the Schumann resonance...

 

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