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Author Topic: Amazing nuclear power converter via oscillating tank circuits !  (Read 32511 times)

Offline toasted

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Re: Amazing nuclear power converter via oscillating tank circuits !
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2008, 01:00:57 AM »
No doubt, anyone who orders would like receive a visit from the authorities.
:)
(one would hope)

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Re: Amazing nuclear power converter via oscillating tank circuits !
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2008, 10:33:08 PM »
bush doesn't have to buy uranium on the internet  :)
theoretically you could make a nuke with that, but you would need such an insane amounts of this ore, you would immidiately draw attention of the government... and the store probably doesn't have that much of it anyway  ;)

anyway, the colman/seddon-gillespie patent (original document here: http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB763062&F=0&QPN=GB763062) looks interesting, but those chemicals are hard to get...

3Ca (Po3)2 + 10C is a mixture of calcium metaphosphate (?) and coal as if it would react... it was discussed here (french):
http://forums.futura-sciences.com/thread190462.html
or english translation for people like me who can't speak french :)
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://forums.futura-sciences.com/thread190462.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://forums.futura-sciences.com/thread190462.html%26hl%3Den

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Re: Amazing nuclear power converter via oscillating tank circuits !
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2008, 01:44:40 AM »
The Colman / Seddon-Gillespie GB patent 763,062 for a 1 KW power, 70-year life, lightweight battery replacement

Patent from 1954. Long-know. Its exactly the (from Stefan)  showned device !

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Re: Amazing nuclear power converter via oscillating tank circuits !
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2008, 01:44:40 AM »
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Re: Amazing nuclear power converter via oscillating tank circuits !
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2008, 02:18:46 AM »
Many thanks Gustav.
I downloaded the PDF file and placed it here.
There is also a drawing in it:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=get59

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Re: Amazing nuclear power converter via oscillating tank circuits !
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2008, 02:37:17 AM »
  Could this circuit be used to elicit more energy from what are now considered spent neuclear fission plant fuel rods.  I would think that it would decrease the 1/2 life to 1/2 years.  If so it could solve a huge problem the planet's already got plus elicit some free energy from the rods.

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Re: Amazing nuclear power converter via oscillating tank circuits !
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2008, 11:46:04 AM »
http://www.web-space.tv/free-energy/

Then open ; PATENT37

(Direct Link will not work !.)


It is diectly compatibel to this "new" reconstructing devives that shown now.

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Re: Amazing nuclear power converter via oscillating tank circuits !
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2008, 12:16:58 PM »
Howdy Y'all,

Uh, that's cheating.  Free energy and overunity is supposed to be Clean power.  Using anything radioactive is cheating, obviously off limits...

OK, Mo Later...

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Re: Amazing nuclear power converter via oscillating tank circuits !
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2008, 01:09:44 PM »
http://www.web-space.tv/free-energy/

Then open ; PATENT37

(Direct Link will not work !.)

The difference is.
the Patented one is working by external power (frequency = 300Mhz)

The "new wonder" is working by "self resonace" -why not?-
Possibly  by 300Mhz - or an "sub-harmotc frequency ,



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Re: Amazing nuclear power converter via oscillating tank circuits !
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2014, 09:15:18 PM »
I suggest for one to make  hard copy   of the  Colman Compound  articles as this links tend to vanish from internet
original  article with pictures  is at:


http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg417566/#msg417566





Just some information about Colman and others:
and
formula for Colman Compound 3Ca(Po3)2+10C
where
How
how much of   each one of components
how it might be made


==============================================================================================[/size]



el:Hi Wesley, I have seen all the videos, and
I must say that the your work done by is amazing,
so a part that i  understood how the device  it work ,
 it's  very hard for me to figure out how to build .



el:I also not understand if the device emits radiation or not. 
el:Friday, during our conversation you told me… leave out the spirituality, but from your videos,
el: i saw a great sensitivity and values ​​for your family and also for this this planet.
el:Spirituality or not this shows that you have a big heart and
el:it shows all the research that you did.i have  the ability to industrialize  this device ,
el: not only for money but really to share something useful with people.
el:I'm open to any your proposal, and in the meantime I say thank you for you time.
 
=================


One can make use of the results I have got.
The chemical formula is 100% known.The design is  known. the principals of operation of Colman Device is known.
So what is left. If One  wants to check the results of my scientific investigation
One must get the chemicals put them together and make test in presence at best of 100W 
Radio  frequency amplifier driven by  regular  signal generator.
The cost of Amplifier  was $100 the cost of generator  can be  between $100 to $500 
there is a need for lead box from  big old  car battery that can be open from the top. 
If there is any radiation than it will likely go up ( fallowing straight lines).
Lead  gives  attenuation to X-rays and Gammas So the person  is not directly affected if not in line of sight(that is:
Electromagnetic transmission includes light emissions traveling in a straight line.
The rays or waves may be diffracted, refracted, reflected, or absorbed
by atmosphere and obstructions with material and generally
cannot travel behind obstacles).
There is need for Gamma radiation detectors= cheap are $150   or less. 
 

There is need for Gamma radiation detectors= cheap are $150   or less.   
But Ortec makes program called   Scintivision  that cost about $4000-  and that works with NaI(Tl) scintillator detector.
There is another  program  by Ortec  called  Maestro 32 that is sufficient for the task   around $1300
 If purchased on Ebay the system can be very inexpensive
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/NaI-Tl-30-70mm-Scintillation-gamma-spectrometer-AtomSpectra-2-Resolution-7-3-/221448985380?pt=BI_Security_Fire_Protection&hash=item338f635b24
link  and free Gamma program is listed at the bottom of the  ebay offer.
Quote:"         
 Freeware PRA program is recommended for work with the detector assembly. It can be downloaded from author's web page at
 http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/~marek/pra/index.html .
FritzPeaks and Theremino MCA also works well.
Switching OFF of absolutely all sound effects for USB sound input device is strictly required.
Some Windows (especially Windows 7) drivers sets ADC gain to maximum possible at first start.
 It strongly reduces actual dynamic range of the detector.
If it happened you need to set input signal gain to 5-7% instead of 100%,
high voltage adjustment is not required. Initial setup and calibration is the same as for 63*63mm detector,
you can see it (in Russian, with English subtitles) here. Optimum settings for your equipment depends
on computer and operating system and may be different."     


     Even simple Ludlum detector will give the presence of radiation but will not give
To the experimenter  information what is exactly going on
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ludlum-3-w-44-9-GM-Pancake-Probe-Geiger-R
adiation-Survey-Meter-Alpha-Beta-Gamma-/251638765494?pt=BI_Security_Fire_Protection&hash=item3a96d6d7b6




====
[el: Thank you,



===

- this one is under $300  Victoreen 660 660-1 gamma radiation and x-ray measuring rate detector
- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Victoreen-660-660-1-gamma-radiation-and-x-ray
-measuring-rate-detector-/131297127128?hash=item1e91eb2ad8
- I have one( different type) but
 I do not make much use of it as I really want to  know what is going on there.
Before experimenter buys something he must read on line  manual  to see it that 
what is listed on ebay is accurate , Most of the sellers  are just uneducated people in this area.




Gamma Spectroscopy Kit
Nuclear Gamma Spectrometry with your
PC  is everything that is needed for the task however
 in can be  purchased  for much less at the right time just by hunting  for it on  Ebay.
 I never buy new it does not pay for me. And yes  detector and computer program is the must to have.
Even if it is not calibrated and just simply switched on it will show more than just radiation detector 
Ludlum. As Ludlum only show that somethin is happening  there. It is good to have it  however as this can show not only
Gammas but Beta and Alpha radiation.




 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gamma-Spectroscopy-Kit-/181201783326?pt=LH_
DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a3077ca1e
 Most of gamma computer based systems will show
 to the experimenter  X-rays as well along with Gamma. X-ray are located af very left of the computer screen.
X-ray have the smallest amount of energy. But whenever you have gamma you must of  have x-ray.
 www.gammaspectacular.com
Sydney Australia has different and more advanced kits .
All lf them do the same. It is just  " how easy it is to  work with them."
For experimenter  it is just easy high school level play with Colman system but  one must take time .
 I do 0.1% of experiments and %99.99 of research and education.
However if experimenter goes with  %50/%50 he could of make it  done  at no time . English phrase no time  - means very short time.




So why is taking so much time for me?
Easy answer. I got couple times very bad side effects  that made me aware of at first understanding what is going on.
But I have used no lead shield, no lead apron, and I was at very close contact with  "specimen"
 
Could I finish  the job  a week from now.?


Yes possibly I could but I do not care about money and even my life to much.
 However I do care  about my ability to finish the job I started. So for that I need health and knowledge.
 If  I was  doing the  experiment with  just the lead box I would probably not have any  "of the problems " at all
At the minimum the cost for  being able to play with Colman is  $1500
 I invested  a lot but it is addition to my lab so I would spend that anyhow.
That has nothing to do with original price of new equipment. I would never  spend that money for it.
 Again USED USED USED  equipment  is the best for the task  as it is cheap.and still very good.
 list of equipment of help:
1 generator from 0 to 1GHz but  if it is from 50MHz to 600MHz is ok too.
1 Amplifier  from 100MHZ to 700MHz to at best 100W power output.
 ! lead box from old heavy truck bat. (no top is important)
1 oscilloscope 500MHz Can be analog but  digital is is just  easier to operate.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tektronix-TDS2012-100MHz-2ch-1Gs-s-Digital
-Storage-Oscilloscope-With-2-Probes-/181402918755?pt=BI_Oscilloscopes&hash=item2a3c74df63
 the one from above is Ok but much beter is 500MHz and 1Gs/s or more.
==

el: And the the magical dust?................................................hehe

==
 this one is excellent but it  show acquisition problem  that might be due to just simple
calibration procedure and it is a risk of money for someone,
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tektronix-TDS820-Digital-Oscilloscope-6GHz-50-KS-s-2Ch-w-GPIB-
/221372465267?pt=BI_Oscilloscopes&hash=item338ad3c073
 this one is recommendend !!!!!    http://www.ebay.com/itm/LECROY-9310M-DUAL-CHANNEL-
300MHZ-OSCILLOSCOPE-Great-Condition-/251053816312?pt=BI_Oscilloscopes&hash=item3a73f939f8
LeCroy is one of the best  even old one.
However the price is little to much and  it is only 100Ms/s not so great.
  For that price  you can get Tektronics of much better performance.
so do not buy it.
 this one  goes to 4Gs/s however it is only 150MHz. It will work !!! for the task
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/LECROY-9410A-DUAL-CHANNEL-150-MHz-DIGITAL-OSCILLOSCOPE-100-
Ms-s-4-Gs-s-WARRANTY-/231098337079?pt=BI_Oscilloscopes&hash=item35ce88c737
 and one can bargain the price say offer $200 for it.
 USB RF Spectrum Analyzer 4.15 GHz - TSA4G1 by Triarchy Technologies
 Spectrum  analyzer is really good to have but  Experimenter  does not need to have it.
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-RF-Spectrum-Analyzer-4-15-GHz-TSA4G1-by-Triarchy-Technologies-/151218540507?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233553cfdb
there are  less expensive  than this as well.
some connectors,some cables  with BNC connectors
 glass tube fron quartz glass ( important only for temperature)
  powder as in Colman patent
 

===


el: and about , how many grams of powder  of copper, sync,and the black one?


===
Everything is in Colman patent
or in my videos
===
el: yours video….i think that somebody cut some parts
===

 there are many videos of the series Revolution has begun
===
el: i saw the draft, but the extra power where will go?


It will be present on the ends of the Colman Tube as DC. Tube might get  hot under the load.

el: is just to check the radioactivity…


==
no The ends of the Colman tube are
made  from cooper and that is where  voltage is present  if It works,
It should give voltage  even one hour after  generator and amplifier is switched off
===
el: i many kw you had with one tube?
===
1.1Kw
or if diameter is 2x5mm it should give around 10kW

====
el: by logic….much bigger is the tube, much more is the power? or not?

===
the volume of powder

===
el: did you had radioactivity?
square root of power


el: honestly ok?


===

 Can not answer  this question !!    understand?
el: yes


 Experimenter must be careful
el: but i read your heart 


However  at the end of it it is safer than lead acid bat from your car
it is no waste  if damaged
 nothing can go out of lead shield of right thickness
==
el: ok
==
for Experiment top of the box is not important if person is on the side of the box  and box  is on the level of his chest
if there is any radiation  he he he that it goes on the straight lines [size=78%]  [/size]from the tube
So box is taking care  of vottom and sides   and top can be with no cover
let "IT" go up. what is the problem?
 none
===

el: Wesley, thn
el: thank you very much, really. tomorrow morning i will start this project. i don’t know how
 to say really thank you.
el: if there are something that i can do for you , please just tell me. i know that the trust is
very difficult to find but…again thank you
===

look at picture below;




===

el: the tube is connected with what?
el: colman tube. because in the file is not connected
el: you say that the end is made by copper , but in the patent, is write: one end in copper  and one and  zinc.


===
No powder is one end cooper one end zinc but that what you use to close the  tube so the
 powder does not  go out  are made from cooper or brass look at my videos
 they must be cap at the ends


===
el: better copper or brass?


===
 does not make any difference


===
el: and without any kind of glue?
===
 no glue. when you  use lathe to make diameter you will found, that inside the glass tube that tube is not perfectly circle  rounded.
Than you turn the fitting  left or right and it will lack itself but do not force it as glass might brake.
 it is not difficult to make tolerances between  fitting( plug- end)  and lass tube 1 micrometer and  that is even more that is required
 that can be done on cheap lathe
In Italy you might not even need to do it as everything is metric.
  I have got plumbing  gas fittings   imperial standard and I got metric glass tubes
 in my  videos it is model number  and place I have got fittings from
 
Home Depot




===
el: and the glass tube?
el: Do you are using your device at your home?
===
 glass tube I do not know  I got  if from my friend scientist " from very far away " 
 I got everything I need I did not pay   for it at all
 He value mu brain more than his  money
 I do not charge for my advice. my brain is free of charge to anyone


 el:i still can’t belive


===
 that is ok
===



el: i still can’t believe that you are helping me.its 6 years that i am searching
====



  Filip value of my lab is quite few (x ....es)        I did not pay for it to much,
as at the certain level people just do not want to sale something  to you,
but to give it  to you not charging yiu,  or at worse they take  just  as much as it is to transport of it.
 At certain level that is not important,
 

People wants to  !!!!screw the system !!!!!
 got it?


===
 el:what you mean with screw the system?


===
 think!!!


===
el: ok but why you trust me?


===
 I do not know you
===
el: but are you helping me. so why?
===
 because what I was given, I should give out. It is not important WHO  but how many will try it and how many will 
make progress    that is the part of screwing  a system

===
el: smart 
el: and because  I was recommended  (to help me)?
el: you are very smart guy. and i really appreciate all of this. is the first time in my life


===
Li- is one who I trust I know him personally
 I do not know you nor I trust you . My investigation in science is for free  to any one
el: People wants to screw the system  And the system will be screw badly
 with me or without me
===

el: Yes,but not  so many people are doing like you are doing
===
 If I die my files will fly out  all of them  that makes  it even faster
===
el: So  Friday - why did you told me that the system is good?

===
I  have no control what people are doing and after they got it working what the people are doing as well.
Most of them keeps it and sit on it, thinking how to cash it out .
Like always there is a greed.
 Someone is  on the top of big  humongous money  and he does not want to others to have it for  free,
That is  human nature.
So they will be on it, never seeing money .
Because once first device is sold to the buyer than he will make copy of it for sure, and for free.
Bot paying to the inventor nor investor.
====

el: That one will not pay to anyone.


===

And to make patent is now to late. Colman patent is now free for anyone  it was given in 1956
 and patent is good only for 20 years    got it?
  the system is good. I do not care about money
  I'm not for money
  nor I ask for any money
 I'm not for sale
===
el: Yes. If it work. And is safe
 It works and is safer than  car battery as it does not have acid
 The radioactivity if there is any :)hehehe  last's only for one  hour

===
el: Also i am not for money. But i need it to buy all the stuff
hee
 every hour there is a need to  reactivate the compound  with 5 to 15 seconds impulse
  that impulse gets power from the device and Colman tube should work for 70 years


 60 colman tube might give  ( or one bigger one) enough to power small vehicle "for   ever" or just the one tube that is  thicker than in the patent.
el: And the base is the electrical energy. Do you think that my idea is bad?


===
 Well  it is green no waste no danger to environment when properly shielded  .
  Take acid from car battery and is dangerous   and pouting


===
el: If  we have to live in this planet i would like to do it in the best way and in harmony with everything

===
 It is in harmony no pollutants,
Radioactive phenomenon of decay  is natural. Your granite counter top. of your table is  radioactive and yet you might have granite  floor
   Your salt  is radioactive   and you use it in the kitchen


===
el: I will send you the video of my work in progress. If is not problem for you.

===
 I can not talk you to do anything it is your life and your decision .
 I have nothing to do with it, that is my legal statement
 The form I use is: Experimenter,
 that might be anyone or just  one who was approved by special authorities
 The form of my  interaction with you is  not the advice you
 and not by any form of  implementation.
 I share my information with you  only
 and based on law  of USA I have rights to share science
 
el: Hehehehe
===




heeeee
 Your motivation is gain and big  money, nothing wrong
 my motivation is very much  already said 
  That is  why some of Arabs might hate me as well as Venezuela
 but there is  much to many , who does not like me or might hate me,  anywhere "in the world of money"


===
el: Big money. ...what is money. .is just a illusion. ..they are like the magical powder.
 The problem is that for the people money means power.
Because the money are not easily taxable
 and buyer for cash is every man on the planet earth


===
el: And this power Is ego.


===
Everyone who is passing next to your window
  Even child can ask  his dad, why this  man  is not using  gasoline?
===



el: And you are not afraid?


====
  no
  after 9/11  I do not care about life any longer. I was scheduled to die. I was lucky I was nit in the building of
WTC1 at that time. All  I care is to make  it happened


===
el: I am thinking that you have a good friends
===
  when you see  people hanging from windows and jumping to their death
===
el: Which is the true?
===
  after you see that yelling  crowd that is dying
  after you look at faces of people  in the air about tall down
===
el: Just to control the people with anti terrorism system?


===
  After that you  change , and I have changed.
===
el: I believe  Free Energy is energy free of charge and there is no wars for domination
 nobody needs oil   and natural gas  Nobody needs dead animals fuel
el: Trust me that the East Europe have Big potential .


===




  there is 3 ways for Free Energy
  1 electrostatic Tariel Kapanadze
 2 magnetic
 3 nuclear
===
el: Ok


===
 all of them are progressing
I do not care who will be first
===

el: Colman is one of nuclear. .. 


=================================


 think ...... it possible that  that attack could be done, taking 4 planes by group of people with  wooden knifes and box cutters?..... think
 Think.....................................


===
el: No possible


===
el: And the radar?
the man with power at that time Mr B. was oil man
that man had problem with competition in Iraq
Every city have big radar to check the City. Because are not flight zone.
el: And fukushima?



===




 fukushima is natural phenomenon of earth quick , that made it happened most likely,
 but we do not know who had insurance policy in hands.
  Who must be paid. What was in insurance agreement
  was that agreement  including natural disaster?
  if yes than someone got big bux

Money do not care  about anything at all


=====================================================================
el:
 i can’t find what is 3Ca(Po3)2 + 10 C
el: could be a normal calcium phosphate?




====
 I believe so but I'm not sure I was not the one who made the compound. That was  chemistry scientist who made it for me.
Here is some other material to be sorted by you:
 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.chem/7G8tBn7xn6c


sci.chem ›
3Ca(Po3)2+10C
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Attila Veres 
7/8/03




3Ca(Po3)2+10C
I would like to know the correct name of this Calcium Phosphate, and what is
the 2+10C at the end?
Your help would be greatly appreciated.











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7/8/03




Dear Attila Veres:
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- show quoted text -
Po is Polonium
URL:http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elements/text/Po/key.html


3Ca(PO3)2 is the fomula for calcium phospate.  The final "2" indicates the
number of phosphate "groupings" (the PO3) attached to the calcium.


I suspect the 10C, depending on context, is ten atoms of carbon.


David A. Smith






 




Attila Veres 
7/8/03


3Ca(PO3)2+10C




"dl...@aol.com (formerly)" <dlzc1.cox@net> wrote in message
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Thank you David,
It should be phosphate. PO
In the J.T. Baker catalogue I found only
Monobasic: Ca(H2PO4)2.H2O
Diabasic: CaHPO4
Tribasic: Ca5(OH)(PO4)3
but I couldn't find 3Ca(PO3)2+10C


I did Internet search and I got here,
http://www.thirdclassroom.net/htmlib/400941027994287.html
 cannot read it, could be Chinese, and found this:
Ca3(PO4)2+2H2SO4 == Ca(H2PO4)2+2CaSO4
Ca(H2PO4)2 == Ca(PO3)2+2H2O
3Ca(PO3)2+10C == Ca3(PO4)2+4P+10CO
still not much help to me.


Attila






 




Steve Turner 
7/8/03




"Attila Veres" <f...@accessv.com> wrote:
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What is the context?


As written, the formula above is nonsensical.


Calcium phosphate is Ca3(PO4)2.  There are other entities which may be
called "calcium phosphate" which contain varying amounts of hydrogen
ion, e.g. CaHPO4.  There is also a calcium phosphite, CaHPO3, but it
is much less common.


The "10C" means nothing as written.  Either this is some sort of a
misprint, or it's taken from an equation.  Are you trying to make
phosphorus?


Steve Turner


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Bruce Sinclair 
7/8/03




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Agreed  ... but could it be some kind of ore as written ?  (with bits of the
formula missing)


Bruce


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Eric Lucas 
7/9/03






"dl...@aol.com (formerly)" <dlzc1.cox@net> wrote in message
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PO3 is phosphite, not phosphate.  Not sure if that's a typo, but it's not
clear what the OP is trying to communicate with that formula--I can't tell
what's supposed to be subscripted, what might be superscripted, and which
numbers are on the line.  If we had that info, and were sure there are no
typos, it would be infinitely easier to parse the formula.


    Eric Lucas






 




dlzc@aol.com \(formerly\) 
7/9/03




Dear Eric Lucas:
"Eric Lucas" <eal...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Yes, I made a hasty conclusion.  You are correct about phosphite, in case I
had confused anyone other than myself.


The OP had responded, and somehow usenet had resequenced it, with a
"complete" set of three formulae.  So you don't have to find his post, I
will quote the relevant portion here:


<QUOTE>




I did Internet search and I got here,
http://www.thirdclassroom.net/htmlib/400941027994287.html
 cannot read it, could be Chinese, and found this:
Ca3(PO4)2+2H2SO4 == Ca(H2PO4)2+2CaSO4
Ca(H2PO4)2 == Ca(PO3)2+2H2O
3Ca(PO3)2+10C == Ca3(PO4)2+4P+10CO
still not much help to me.
<END QUOTE>
David A. Smith






 




Steve Turner 
7/9/03




bruce.sinclair@NOSPAMagresearch.NOTco.NOTnz (Bruce Sinclair) wrote:
In article <61smgvgg9gu62j0tcus3mkaqp29faeiial@4ax.com>, Steve Turner <srtu...@spamnet.att.net> wrote:
"Attila Veres" <f...@accessv.com> wrote:

3Ca(Po3)2+10C
The "10C" means nothing as written.  Either this is some sort of a




>>misprint, or it's taken from an equation.  Are you trying to make
>>phosphorus?
>
>Agreed  ... but could it be some kind of ore as written ?  (with bits of the
>formula missing)
Calcium phosphite in graphite or something?  Possible, I suppose; I'm
not a minerologist.  But the formula:


3Ca(PO3)2


is still problematic.  At the very least, calcium phosphite should be
written Ca3(PO3)2, and I'm not even sure if this form of calcium
phosphite exists.


Again, it would be helpful to know the context of the original.


Steve Turner


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Eric Lucas 
7/9/03






"dl...@aol.com (formerly)" <dlzc1.cox@net> wrote in message
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> The OP had responded, and somehow usenet had resequenced it, with a
> "complete" set of three formulae.  So you don't have to find his post, I
> will quote the relevant portion here:
>
> <QUOTE>
> I did Internet search and I got here,
> http://www.thirdclassroom.net/htmlib/400941027994287.html
>  cannot read it, could be Chinese, and found this:
> Ca3(PO4)2+2H2SO4 == Ca(H2PO4)2+2CaSO4
> Ca(H2PO4)2 == Ca(PO3)2+2H2O
> 3Ca(PO3)2+10C == Ca3(PO4)2+4P+10CO
> still not much help to me.
> <END QUOTE>


Ah, all is now clear.  I jumped to a wrong conclusion, PO3 is *not* a
phosphite (i.e., P(+3)), but rather PO3(-1), some sort of pyrophosphate,
still formally P(+5).  I call it a pyrophosphate because the second reaction
almost certainly involves heat to drive off water.  To the OP, the last line
says that 3 molecules of this calcium pyrophosphate reacts with 10 carbon
atoms to give calcium phosphate, 10 molecules of carbon monoxide and 4 atoms
of some allotrope of elemental phosphorus.


    Eric Lucas






 




Steve Turner 
7/9/03




"Eric Lucas" <eal...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Ah, all is now clear.  I jumped to a wrong conclusion, PO3 is *not* a
>phosphite (i.e., P(+3)), but rather PO3(-1), some sort of pyrophosphate,
>still formally P(+5).
I'll be durned.  I've never heard of such a beast, but the Lewis
structure is actually pretty trivial to draw.  (Whether or not it's
real is another issue.)  Does this really exist as such (i.e., singly
charged monomer)?  Pyrophosphates are usually dimeric or trimeric,
IIRC.


Steve Turner


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Eric Lucas 
7/9/03






"Steve Turner" <srtu...@spamnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> "Eric Lucas" <eal...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >Ah, all is now clear.  I jumped to a wrong conclusion, PO3 is *not* a
> >phosphite (i.e., P(+3)), but rather PO3(-1), some sort of pyrophosphate,
> >still formally P(+5).
>
> I'll be durned.  I've never heard of such a beast, but the Lewis
> structure is actually pretty trivial to draw.  (Whether or not it's
> real is another issue.)  Does this really exist as such (i.e., singly
> charged monomer)?  Pyrophosphates are usually dimeric or trimeric,
> IIRC.
I agree, I've never seen such a beast personally.  Ca(PO3)2 may just be a
fictional simplification for didactic purposes.  Maybe in reality some
partially hydrated dimeric anion like CaH2P2O7, or something like that.  On
the other hand, it may be real, with the unstable PO3- anion stabilized by
the Ca ions and lattice energy.  My copies of Cotton & Wilkinson and
Greenwood & Earnshaw are at work..
 http://www.overunity.com/844/amazing-nuclear-power-converter-via-oscillating-tank-circuits/15/#.VBm_WfldXng
el: this i found also me, but i don’t understand if i can buy…or i have to make by myself


 nyway, the colman/seddon-gillespie patent (original document here:
http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=GB763062&F=0&QPN=GB763062) looks interesting, but those
chemicals are hard to get...


3Ca (Po3)2 + 10C is a mixture of calcium metaphosphate (?) and coal as if it would react... it was discussed here (french):
http://forums.futura-sciences.com/thread190462.html
or english translation for people like me who can't speak french 
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://forums.futura-sciences.com/thread190462.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://forums.futura-sciences.com/thread190462.html%26hl%3Den


 The Colman / Seddon-Gillespie GB patent 763,062 for a 1 KW power, 70-year life,
el:possible for me...
el: but for sure you have…i saw in your video...


 this is translattion  into English:
   http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%
2F%2Fforums.futura-sciences.com%2Fchimie%2F190462-formule-3ca-po3-2-10c.html&sandbox=1


this is original  probably more accurate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
 http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.
futura-sciences.com%2Fchimie%2F190462-formule-3ca-po3-2-10c.html&anno=2&sandbox=1
el: ten parts of carbon?
 http://sci.chem.narkive.com/zxKR7Qhf/3ca-po3-2-10c
 I'n my  tube I have multiplied everything by 50 but  one can multiplyt it by 100
  it is the same as original but it is easier to  make correct weight in mg
 http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/13901-colman-beta-decay-new-energy-source.html
 http://www.science-bbs.com/46-chem/c3cb823c7babd437.htm
 http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.chem/2013-11/msg00024.html
 this one  from above is little different
 this is the reason because is black…. 
 http://books.google.com/books?id=JAkPAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA120&lpg=PA120&dq=3Ca(Po3)2+%2B+10+C&source=bl&ots=o6eeWfRhNy&sig
=Gk6DMiqAsLY9ybXjaSKmHMR7fbY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7sAZVKTSKs3ZoASDsoKADw&ved=0CG4Q6AEwCA#
v=onepage&q=3Ca(Po3)2%20%2B%2010%20C&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=LF8XAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA147&lpg=PA147&dq=3Ca(Po3)2+%2B+10+C&source=bl&ots=d3nrUpOQBO&sig=
iF31Fz1r0lImT629jrDWHsavAGE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7sAZVKTSKs3ZoASDsoKADw&ved=0CHEQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=
3Ca(Po3)2%20%2B%2010%20C&f=false
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2058.15;wap2
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-642-92778-2_12   Zusammenfassung
Zur Darstellung von elementarem Phosphor wurde früher Tri-kalziumphosphat mit
Schwefelsäure behandelt, die Lösung von primärem Kalziumphosphat nach Abtrennen
 des Kalziumsulfats eingedampft und mit Holzkohle oder Koks vermischt. Das beim
Trocknen entstehende Kalziummetaphosphat lieferte beim Erhitzen in feuerfesten Retorten Phosphor nach der Gleichung:
3Ca(PO3)2+10C=P4+Ca3(PO4)2+10CO.
 http://cubaenergy.com/2014/05/20/revolution-has-begun-free-energy-exposed-part1/
 !!!!!!!     http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=65&page=15    !!!!!
 http://www.jiskha.com/display.cgi?id=1278986808
 http://profchimie.wikispaces.com/file/view/FosfOr%EF%81%8C.ppt
 http://www.pirotek.info/forum/~thread__mid=838423623&thread__start=11.html
 http://profchimie.wikispaces.com/file/view/FosfOr%EF%81%8C.ppt
 for easiness to understand what is happening to inventors dealing with Energy
 devices that might  create problems to industry I give you another man another company and
another story ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and what happened to them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  that happened because they ask for money
  that means  that catch is do not ask for money  [size=78%]: [/size] all one can do for inventor is just to kill him
  not so bad after all heeeeeeeeeeee
: http://www.astralpublishing.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/telsasymposium1990paperbypaulbrown.pdf
 http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Resonant_Nuclear_Reactor
 Paul Brown's Resonant Nuclear Battery
Paul Brown: Resonant Nuclear Battery - The Alpha-Beta Voltaic Effect NuCell (RexResearch)
Page Excerpts:
A radioisotope electric power system developed by inventor Paul Brown is a scientific breakthrough in nuclear power.
The battery utilizes the energy given off by decaying radioactive material, converting it directly
into a continuous AC electrical current. Unlike conventional nuclear generating devices, the power
cell does not rely on a nuclear reaction or chemical process and does not produce radioactive waste products.
Abstract
Nucell, Inc., a subsidiary of Peripheral Systems, Inc., is developing alternative energy technologies for
 generating electrical power by employing radioisotopes as the prime power source. A phenomenon known as the
"Beta Voltaic Effect" is used to directly convert radioactive decay energy into electricity without going through a thermal cycle.
 The great attraction of isotopic power supplies is that radioactive decay energy is several orders of magnitude greater than chemical energy.
 do not even attempt  to open this one it will not  open   
 http://www.astralpublishing.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/paper_presented_ans1989_meeting_paulbrown.pdf
 did not open in US
  but I found another one that opens
 http://www.astralpublishing.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/telsasymposium1990paperbypaulbrown.pdf
: So what happened to him?      ?
 that is what happened:
http://www.sec.gov/news/digest/1992/dig100292.pdf  :
 http://www.rexresearch.com/nucell/nucell.htm
: that  man is  another one who  got his hands on nuclear bat.
 http://www.paradigmphysics.com/Beta_Nuclear_Energy.pdf




el: Thank you


  here is some more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ezwSvpX8VY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s811V2KPexI










that is page with all but you must  sort it
ttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvAQu78R5eJ7cJMQpFGb5Hw




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