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Author Topic: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev  (Read 164569 times)

Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #150 on: February 03, 2011, 11:23:42 PM »
You say this because you want it to be so. But it isn't. Anybody may go back and read what I said about the differences. So yours is a genuine ad hominem. This a fact, yours is wishful thinking.
yeah let us see what you wrote...
On the other hand, characterizing someone as incompetent when he is trying to shoot down argument with incompetence is not ad hominem. That's a proper reaction in a discussion. It would be ad hominem if he was called incompetent but he actually isn't. That isn't the case in the discussion at hand.
so by your 'logic' and i am using that word in its loosest sense here... characterizing someone as a liar when they have lied is not ad hominem because that's the proper reaction in a discussion... as per the great omnibus.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #150 on: February 03, 2011, 11:23:42 PM »

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #151 on: February 03, 2011, 11:26:14 PM »
LMFAO! you didn't list any! what is the post number where you listed these? or are you referring to your popper fallacy?

and let me make something overwhelmingly clear since you don't know me son, you and i are not friends, nor will we be. i despise people like you who eschew logic and reason.

Logic and reason is what is wanting in you, as is obvious from the exchange so far but I'm a gentleman enough to not despise you for those defficiencies of yours, although I don't know where their origin is, is it because of your very nature or because of the choppy education you were subjected to. Either way, it isn't pleasant to converse with a confused individual such as you but on the other hand it is nothing but noble to put an effort to straighten out confused thinking. That's how I feel and that's why I'm still continuing this exchange. Some readers may find it interesting too.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #152 on: February 03, 2011, 11:27:39 PM »
HHMMMMmm.
We're bringing in the experts on this one.

But I think W has achieved OU. This Tag team will most definately go on Forever,and It seems that W can't control it,he's trying to engage
the heavies in the Cold electricity thread.

Could be a Runaway cascade event.............

Chetty
you got it wrong chetty, it's simply that i can hold off people like omni engaging in logical fallacies on multiple fronts and sometimes choose to do so. speaking of, you ever get around to that little exercise i laid out for you awhile back? your 'placebo logic'... remember? i do...  ::)

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #152 on: February 03, 2011, 11:27:39 PM »
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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #153 on: February 03, 2011, 11:28:43 PM »
yeah let us see what you wrote...so by your 'logic' and i am using that word in its loosest sense here... characterizing someone as a liar when they have lied is not ad hominem because that's the proper reaction in a discussion... as per the great omnibus.

When they lied yes, but when they didn't lie, as is the case, it is clear ad hominem. Confusion, confusion, that's what you're suffering from.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #154 on: February 03, 2011, 11:29:48 PM »
Logic and reason is what is wanting in you, as is obvious from the exchange so far but I'm a gentleman enough to not despise you for those defficiencies of yours, although I don't know where their origin is, is it because of your very nature or because of the choppy education you were subjected to. Either way, it isn't pleasant to converse with a confused individual such as you but on the other hand it is nothing but noble to put an effort to straighten out confused thinking. That's how I feel and that's why I'm still continuing this exchange. Some readers may find it interesting too.
more fallacies from the master! imagine that! ::) omni, you know nothing of my education... and again you engage in bifurcation or false dichotomy.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #154 on: February 03, 2011, 11:29:48 PM »
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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #155 on: February 03, 2011, 11:31:46 PM »
more fallacies from the master! imagine that! ::) omni, you know nothing of my education... and again you engage in bifurcation or false dichotomy.

I see the results, though, and they are not to brag about.

Let's be noble -- blame it on your education because to be so confused by nature is even more embarrassing.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #156 on: February 03, 2011, 11:32:57 PM »
When they lied yes, but when they didn't lie, as is the case, it is clear ad hominem. Confusion, confusion, that's what you're suffering from.
you did lie. the record shows this. if you want to prove me wrong, simply quote your post where you show how and where a different type (a type that does not use inductive or deductive reasoning) of logic is used in a court case... ::)

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #157 on: February 03, 2011, 11:34:59 PM »
I see the results, though, and they are not to brag about.
i rather prefer it over your training in logical fallacy, it is abundantly obvious that you certainly have spent years of hard work and dedication in pursuit of that education...

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #158 on: February 03, 2011, 11:39:02 PM »
you did lie. the record shows this. if you want to prove me wrong, simply quote your post where you show how and where a different type (a type that does not use inductive or deductive reasoning) of logic is used in a court case... ::)
I said inductive logic is discouraged in soft sciences while it may be acceptable in hard sciences, didn't I? That's just an example. A telling one. Is that a small difference in using logic?

So, now, who's the liar?

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #158 on: February 03, 2011, 11:39:02 PM »
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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #159 on: February 03, 2011, 11:39:52 PM »
i rather prefer it over your training in logical fallacy, it is abundantly obvious that you certainly have spent years of hard work and dedication in pursuit of that education...

Look who's talking.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #160 on: February 03, 2011, 11:40:00 PM »
When Sister Mary alice gets back, your both gonna get the ruler across the knuckle treatment!,and maybe the old Adhomiwhip across the buttocks!
She's gonna have some sledgeucatin for the two of you!

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #161 on: February 03, 2011, 11:41:20 PM »
I said inductive logic is discouraged in soft sciences while it may be acceptable in hard sciences, didn't I? That's just an example. A telling one. Is that a small difference in using logic?

So, now, who's the liar?
no, no, no. you are changing the premise now... ::) is ad hoc your new favorite fallacy?
I SAID "show how and where a different type (a type that does not use inductive or deductive reasoning) of logic is used in a court case..." ::) i said this because you claimed that the logic used in a court of law was different from the logic used in science... tu stultus es... q.e.d.

see that emphasized part? what part of that don't you comprehend?

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #162 on: February 03, 2011, 11:43:50 PM »
Accepting multiple truths about a phenomenon is just fine for soft sciences while mandating a single truth anout a phenomenon in hards science. Didn't I give that as a difference in logic and reasoning? Is that a small difference?

And, finally, again, who's the liar?

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #163 on: February 03, 2011, 11:46:04 PM »
In view of the above if you have even a trace of self-respect you will not allow yourself to continue to embarrass yourself and will stop posting on this subject.

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Re: Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev
« Reply #164 on: February 03, 2011, 11:47:29 PM »
Accepting multiple truths about a phenomenon is just fine for soft sciences while mandating a single truth anout a phenomenon in hards science. Didn't I give that as a difference in logic and reasoning? Is that a small difference?

And, finally, again, who's the liar?
we were talking about a different type of logic being used in science versus courts of law. what you just stated is not a "difference" in the context you opened with... you brought up this erroneous idea of "different logic" as a strawman argument back then remember? you were avoiding my other questions... ::) can you demonstrate how a court case can use some other type of logic than deductive or inductive reasoning? NO YOU CAN'T! which is why you have been dragging this out for 5+pages now. it is just a pathetic attempt at obfuscation via various and repeated logical fallacies until no one but me recalls what was the original point of contention.

you are the liar... still.

 

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