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bmlobo

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Re: TheEnergyDream working PM
« Reply #60 on: August 27, 2010, 11:51:15 PM »
Hi All,

Here is a site that I am working on a pulse generator and generator coils for a wind powered setup. Take a look at the pictures and feel free to comment.

http://freepowergeneration.blogspot.com/


Thank you

bmlobo

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Re: TheEnergyDream working PM
« Reply #61 on: August 27, 2010, 11:52:08 PM »
Hi All,

Here is a site that I am working on a pulse generator and generator coils for a wind powered setup. Take a look at the pictures and feel free to comment.

http://freepowergeneration.blogspot.com/


Thank you

Pirate88179

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Re: TheEnergyDream working PM
« Reply #62 on: August 28, 2010, 02:06:08 AM »
Bruno:

Nice site.  Very well done.  I am looking forward to seeing your progress.  Nice machine work there too.  I did precision ceramic machining using diamond tooling for over 20 years.

Bill

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Re: TheEnergyDream working PM
« Reply #63 on: September 06, 2010, 04:55:22 AM »
I suspect an air line is used or a charged coil outside the frame and this is how I figured it out.

The reference video I am using is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5lXNpOnurw&feature=related

I have analyzed this carefully in Adobe After Effects fame by frame for nearly five hours. I have to admit he was careful to make sure there was no particles that could blow away because what I did was first stabilize sections of the video to so it wasn't bouncing all over the place. Then I carefully watched a few frames at a time to see if any particles moved across the surfaces. I found nothing. This amounted to a lack of evidence of this guy using air specifically so I had to find some other evidence.

Remember, unless manipulated by a coil or other magnets a magnet's force is static. We should be able to assume that when he tunes in his device to get either a steady RPM or an accelerating RPM then the RPM should be predictable unless otherwise manipulated in a fraudulent way.

27 seconds into the video this individual begins to advance the steel bar (Used for clamping by machinists) and the rotor begins to spin.

35 seconds into the video this individual stops advancing the bar and begins advancing the two magnets on the bar to effectively tune in an optimum RPM.

43 seconds the tuning stops and hand is removed.

Now from here on the rotor should either maintain a constant speed or accelerate. But, thanks to temporal sub - sampling we can clearly see that the rotor speeds up then slows down then speeds up again then finally starts slowing down just before this individual stops the rotor with his finger. This is completely in opposition to the way magnets behave. Watch carefully and you will see this.




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Re: TheEnergyDream working PM
« Reply #64 on: September 06, 2010, 05:12:28 AM »
I suspect an air line is used or a charged coil outside the frame
some questions for zaphon:
care to demonstrate your suspicions?

can you show a replication being powered by a charged coil outside the frame?

are you suggesting that a rotor with magnets on it being repelled or attracted to a charged coil will speed up, then slow down, speed up again and then slow down again?

ZaPHoN

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Re: TheEnergyDream working PM
« Reply #65 on: September 06, 2010, 09:10:37 AM »
It's clear when one carefully analyzes the video with the proper tools that the RPM of the rotor does not behave according to known physical properties of magnets if in fact this demonstration was to be legitimate.

Two facts raise alarm bells. The poster of this video refuses to expand on requests that could potentially establish it to be legit.

Nobody has been able to replicate what should be obviously easy to replicate even without specific plans. It's easy to closely approximate dimensions using the machinist's clamping blocks as reference. The rotor bearing is from the head of a VCR. They make great low friction bearings.

The flywheel is unknown but a moot issue. The magnets are clearly not rare earth.

Because the individual who created this video is most likely a machinist. (Seems to have machinist's hands as well the use of machinist's clamping blocks) I suspect he is using an air nozzle as apposed to an electrical source.

Although there is no preponderance of proof that this is a fraud there are some significant observations that lead one to view this video as highly suspect and until full disclosure and cooperation is meet I would have to bank on the reasonable probability that the video is a fake.

It would be nice however, if this could be proven without a doubt that it is not a fake.


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Re: TheEnergyDream working PM
« Reply #66 on: September 06, 2010, 09:31:43 AM »
It's clear when one carefully analyzes the video with the proper tools that the RPM of the rotor does not behave according to known physical properties of magnets if in fact this demonstration was to be legitimate.

Two facts raise alarm bells. The poster of this video refuses to expand on requests that could potentially establish it to be legit.

Nobody has been able to replicate what should be obviously easy to replicate even without specific plans. It's easy to closely approximate dimensions using the machinist's clamping blocks as reference. The rotor bearing is from the head of a VCR. They make great low friction bearings.

The flywheel is unknown but a moot issue. The magnets are clearly not rare earth.

Because the individual who created this video is most likely a machinist. (Seems to have machinist's hands as well the use of machinist's clamping blocks) I suspect he is using an air nozzle as apposed to an electrical source.

Although there is no preponderance of proof that this is a fraud there are some significant observations that lead one to view this video as highly suspect and until full disclosure and cooperation is meet I would have to bank on the reasonable probability that the video is a fake.
your response does not address a single one of the three questions i posed...

It would be nice however, if this could be proven without a doubt that it is not a fake.
indeed, that is why i posed those three questions to you... instead of answering you continue with your speculations.

ZaPHoN

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Re: TheEnergyDream working PM
« Reply #67 on: September 06, 2010, 05:32:23 PM »
Have you tried to replicate it nearly exactly to what is seen in the video?

Have you taken the time to analyze the video to the degree some of us have?

I have. It would not work. However, using an air hose I can make the device do exactly what you see in the video. It's too bad. I was hoping it would work.

The fact that music is dubbed over any sound makes me also suspect that this individual didn't want the sound of an air hose being heard.

The poster also makes sure nobody can comment on the video.

The effort I've made is hardly speculation.

I won't waste any more time on this matter.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2010, 05:55:55 PM by ZaPHoN »

MenofFather

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Re: TheEnergyDream working PM
« Reply #68 on: September 22, 2010, 08:20:59 PM »
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8319/mgnetinisvariklis4.png)
Here is image, may help beter imaginane, in image I show how can be magnet position.
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luishan

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Re: TheEnergyDream working PM
« Reply #69 on: October 06, 2010, 11:13:28 PM »
The channel upload new interesting video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVo0rAJSDrc

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Re: TheEnergyDream working PM
« Reply #70 on: October 10, 2010, 05:36:09 PM »
Ive seen this video,,might try it or something in the same general ball field eventually. If its real,,and it looks real, but hard to say, till you try it. Thats how I find out,,I tinker alot,,so I try em..If it is not real Im sure there is a way, but I wonder if the magnets to do such are the standard kinds or would the magnet itself need to be made in some other form, different from say a plain old flat or round magnet. Maybe some kind of three dimensional shape,,to fit the design of the rest. Just a thought there..

FatChance!!!

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Re: TheEnergyDream working PM
« Reply #71 on: October 10, 2010, 06:38:31 PM »
The channel upload new interesting video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVo0rAJSDrc

This was the worst piece of uninteresting crap video I've seen in a long time.
The spin is initiated by the small movements of his hand holding the outer magnet.
Mount the magnet firmly to keep it still and the rotor won't move.
There's a dozen of similar videos floating around showing the same BS.
Beware, anyone presenting this as proof is only looking to get your money.
Keep your wallet tight in your pocket.
 
« Last Edit: October 10, 2010, 10:44:49 PM by FatChance!!! »

magnetmotorman

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Re: TheEnergyDream working PM
« Reply #72 on: October 26, 2010, 04:10:58 PM »
Then it is very simular to the Helmut Goebkes motor.

Regards, Stefan.
A little correction, for the well of all us who don't know much of this foreign language, the english.

sim·u·lar  (smy-lr, -lär) Archaic
n
One that simulates; a pretender.
adj
fake; simulated
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003

Certainly you tried to write "similar".

TinselKoala

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Re: TheEnergyDream working PM
« Reply #73 on: October 27, 2010, 01:55:16 AM »
"This video has been removed by the user. "

And another one's gone, another one's gone,
another one Bites the Dust....

ramset

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Re: TheEnergyDream working PM
« Reply #74 on: October 27, 2010, 03:27:12 AM »
eman
Why you keep pickin on the BOSS?
BTW his native tongue is German
Chet
TK you check your PM?
Please!!