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Author Topic: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM  (Read 1047463 times)

Offline PaulLowrance

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Re: Steorn - it's all a matter of days away!!!
« Reply #75 on: December 15, 2009, 01:51:42 PM »

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Re: Steorn - it's all a matter of days away!!!
« Reply #76 on: December 15, 2009, 02:13:25 PM »

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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #77 on: December 15, 2009, 02:13:38 PM »
Looks like a pulse motor to me!
Just replace the battery with a cap and show it charging before we go any further.


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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #78 on: December 15, 2009, 02:25:59 PM »
Sigh...
So, can they do any work with thise batteries during those months? Capacity of such batteries should be well established. You just can't lift a given weight up higher than X on a charge.
Just don't extract any work, and seasons pass during the experiment.

Hopefully there will be better stuff following soon :-(

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Re: Steorn - it's all a matter of days away!!!
« Reply #79 on: December 15, 2009, 02:38:50 PM »
There is no external load on the orbo.  Why?  Because the battery wouldn't be able to maintain the RPM for very long with a load on it.  How difficult would it be to hook a light bulb to the orbo to prove it is OU?  Not very difficult.

There is no external load on this device because it can not run with a load for very long.  However, it can run for a very long time without a load.  A demo running from a battery with no load on it showing OU.  I don't think so.

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Re: Steorn - it's all a matter of days away!!!
« Reply #80 on: December 15, 2009, 03:25:36 PM »
Steorn should have used a small supercapacitor, even a 0.1 farad would do.

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Re: Steorn - it's all a matter of days away!!!
« Reply #81 on: December 15, 2009, 03:41:41 PM »
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Steorn should have used a small supercapacitor, even a 0.1 farad would do.
Yes, then provide some display showing the capacitor's voltage.

Pulse motor..... :(

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Re: Steorn - it's all a matter of days away!!!
« Reply #82 on: December 15, 2009, 03:44:30 PM »
Steorn should have used a small supercapacitor, even a 0.1 farad would do.

A super capacitor or a battery will have the same results because there is NO EXTERNAL LOAD on the orbo.  The orbo is spinning on FRICTIONLESS MAGNET BEARINGS, and the device only needs a quick pulse from the battery in order to maintain it's target RPM.  The duration between each pulse of current are very long, thus it can run for months on this battery or super capacitor without a load.

Give me a frictionless magnetic bearing, and I can replicate this orbo with a homopolar motor, such as the link to the levitating homopolar motor I posted earlier.

I really hope I am wrong about this and I am trying to keep an open mind.  The fact remains that this demo can be done without OU, and this bothers me.

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Re: STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM
« Reply #83 on: December 15, 2009, 03:46:07 PM »
I wonder why they are using toroid em's? Kind of reminds me of gotoluc's Generator Coil Test 1.

http://www.youtube.com/user/gotoluc#p/a/u/1/ebybImidcFY

Instead of having a regular coil 90 degrees like gotoluc has it, they use a toroid at 90 degrees. Is this a lenz less setup?

I wonder if gotoluc can make a toroid and see what type of current he gets in his setup. Then put current through the toroid and disconnect power from the motor he's using in his setup to see if he gets rotation.

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Re: Steorn - it's all a matter of days away!!!
« Reply #84 on: December 15, 2009, 03:46:14 PM »
It's not frictionless. It might run a month, two tops on that battery.

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Re: Steorn - it's all a matter of days away!!!
« Reply #85 on: December 15, 2009, 03:55:10 PM »
It's not frictionless. It might run a month, two tops on that battery.

The complete system may not be 100% frictionless, but it is pretty close to 100%.  If it was 100%, then it wouldn't need the battery or capacitor.  The tiny bit of friction that is still present in the system allows it to run from a battery for months like you have said.

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Re: Steorn - it's all a matter of days away!!!
« Reply #86 on: December 15, 2009, 04:14:33 PM »
Steorn should have used a small supercapacitor, even a 0.1 farad would do.

Why do you think the Orbo would spin with that?

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Re: Steorn - it's all a matter of days away!!!
« Reply #87 on: December 15, 2009, 04:30:25 PM »
What does this device have to do with time variant magnetic materials?
Isn't that the principal it was supposed to operate on?

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Re: Steorn - it's all a matter of days away!!!
« Reply #88 on: December 15, 2009, 05:54:56 PM »
What I am surprised about is how little coverage there is of this event, as compared to last time.  There are maybe 100 people worldwide watching the feed.  Almost no news articles about this in Google News.  A few things from ZDNet is all.

Even the Steorn forum is virtually dead about this, just a handful of people posting.

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Re: Steorn - it's all a matter of days away!!!
« Reply #89 on: December 15, 2009, 05:57:54 PM »
   Here we go again   :o