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Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: Re: Poynt
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2009, 09:53:52 PM »
It appears you did some random Google search for defamation.  Thanks for posting the results, but we can all copy and paste random junk too.

Little of what you cite relates to your specific case and the difficulty you are going to have proving defamation damages to your online persona, which cannot easily be tied to a real person.  No damages means no case.

Furthermore, how are you going to sue someone when you have no idea of his real identity either?  Your threats are comical.
it wasn't random, it was specific, you can read a search query can't you? yes, i know, you post random junk quite often as well as logical fallacies, flawed arguments, etc. yawn...

yawn... winning may or may not be the point. you obviously didn't understand the implications of what i cited.

how do you know i don't know his real identity? i know poynty's, i know yours... you are on the internet, you are not anonymous ::)
regardless, if stefan allows it to remain on his site i will take action.

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Re: Re: Poynt
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2009, 09:53:52 PM »

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Re: Poynt
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2009, 11:49:22 PM »
You will be welcome, the new forum will have mandatory dress code of civility, objectivity and truthfulness, any blowhard non constructives will be shown the door.

You mean I gotta wear clothing? I can get away with nudity here!

Oh well, I guess I can put on my jammies for the new forum  ;D


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Re: Poynt
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2009, 11:55:33 PM »
Wilby,

Please let us know at what time your case comes up on Judge Judy. I will be interested in her response when you tell her that his alias defamed your alias on the internet and then to hear you explain what type of damages were caused to your alias by his slanderous remarks. I was going to add something else but I don't want you to sue me too. :)

I don't really understand whats going on on this site. You have people such as Poynt, Grumpy and even Farrah Day, who all seem to know a thing or two. What did they say that was that bad to get them banned? I've agreed with most of their statements, so I'm pretty confused right now.

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Re: Poynt
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2009, 11:55:33 PM »
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Offline Gobaga

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Re: Poynt
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2009, 02:17:34 AM »
Here's to everyone that was wrongfully banned from this forum, and all of those that had the sense to leave on their own. 

May they find free energy, get off the grid, power their vehicles, and share it with friends and family. 

May the smack-talkers freeze in winter, fry in summer, and live in the dark.

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Re: Poynt
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2009, 02:37:24 AM »
Wilby,

Please let us know at what time your case comes up on Judge Judy. I will be interested in her response when you tell her that his alias defamed your alias on the internet and then to hear you explain what type of damages were caused to your alias by his slanderous remarks. I was going to add something else but I don't want you to sue me too. :)

I don't really understand whats going on on this site. You have people such as Poynt, Grumpy and even Farrah Day, who all seem to know a thing or two. What did they say that was that bad to get them banned? I've agreed with most of their statements, so I'm pretty confused right now.

yawn... i would imagine you were going to ad some hominem? careful now or you might end up on my cyberstalking fire bomb list ::)

it's simple. see this thread for why poynty is on read only.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8365.msg211610#msg211610
grumpy and farrah got their posting rights taken away for repeatedly responding with logical fallacies, mostly ad hominem. so there you have it. you might try reading/comprehending for yourself sometime, so people don't have to waste their time enlightening you...

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Re: Poynt
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2009, 02:37:24 AM »
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Offline Peterae

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Re: Poynt
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2009, 02:25:42 PM »
Here's a post from Poynt

Guys,

A couple of days ago I was feeling down because I no longer had an outlet to share, help, and contribute as I've been doing for almost 4 years now on this forum. I began searching the net for other free energy research forums, and realized there really isn't much out there aside from lunatic fringe sites such as OU and EF, and a couple of others on Yahoo etc.. I did join one on Yahoo, and also an electronics forum, however it became apparent that these were not going to fully satisfy my interest in the field of overunity research. I had resolved to giving it a go anyway, but I also took a step into the world of blogging, since this offered simultaneously a personal yet public venue in which I could post in a variety of manners, topics, and levels of detail. I have not posted anything there yet (understandably I hope), but it has been set up. It will suffice for now to remain "private".

Then I began to receive PM's and emails from a number of good folks from OU that were expressing their surprise, disappointment, and support for me regarding my recent departure here. I also saw posts from Peterae, and Yucca  and others (thanks guys) expressing the same, and I was touched. Up to this moment, there have been several more emails and now a thread discussing what's transpired and is somewhat electric with opinions and emotions. I'm inspired guys, perhaps even elated...thanks to all who have had the courage to come forward in this manner to stand for what they believe to be right.

I'd like to pay a particular thanks to Peterae. Peter has always stood up for me when required, and not only is he a good friend, he’s an excellent builder and researcher. Peter and I began collaborating back in the day when Mike's replication of Bedini's Window Motor was the sizzling topic of the day, and I was posting as z_p_e. Yes that's me too, for those that may not already know. Peter and I still collaborate to this day although we've explored differing interests the last number of months.

Which, in a round about way brings me to WilbyInebriated. Wilby surreptitiously obtained quite a lot of information about me as most of you may know by now, and made a rather obtuse and taunting post implying as much. I’m not happy about this, but let bygones be bygones. The PM notification I received at my ISP address was a result of Wilby sending me a PM to my z_p_e account at OU, and it is for this reason that I thought it was fake. It was not faked and I apologize for and retract the accusation. However, since Wilby feels he “has something on me” with his latest covert data acquisition, allow me to curtail that misbelief by revealing my name to you; it's Darren Kozey. I felt that since I'm no longer part of this forum, that it was a fitting enough time to reveal this information, for what it's worth.

I sense a real change and a building-up of positive momentum guys. Our own "truth" movement if you will. It's time. There is a real need (and strong desire) for a free energy research forum that caters to truth, objectivity, integrity, respect, and forward thinking. Supplement these with sharing, learning, and creativity, and I think we can achieve what I think we all want--an honest venue where individuals are responsible for what they say or do and believe strongly in integrity and getting to the truth. A place for all to learn and grow, and just as important, openly and rightfully question with impunity what they may encounter along the way.

Alas, this is indeed in the works. All will be welcome (well, almost all). I am going to go out on a limb and state that there will be no advertisements, and there will be no "guests" lurking and using up bandwidth. Everyone will be respected and given a chance regardless of technical level. Each is responsible on their own to maintain that respect. Those that disrespect the guidelines will eventually be "weeded out". Outright claims will most likely not be tolerated unless backed up with reasonable evidence. This is especially pertinent for individuals that clearly demonstrate they posses little or no formal technical training.

Some of you will be invited personally, and others may ask for membership if you desire. Again, I would suggest that all are welcome. I believe in second chances, and perhaps there are some folks that may eventually become stagnant and dismayed with OU, so don't be shy, look us up!

These are indeed exciting times ahead!

Cheers,
Darren

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Re: Poynt
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2009, 02:45:36 PM »
Please send me an invitation when you have the site running.
I see no mistakes made by .99.

The mistake was with the actions and ridiculous responses of others. There are plenty of foul mouthed blah, blah ingrates that should be banned on this forum.

As for Wilby, all he ever says is "You are ignoring this user. Show me the post."

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The MISTAKE he Make was He Intercepted PRIVATE EMAIL DIRECTED TO STEPHAN THEN BLATANTLY POSTED THEM IN AN OPEN FORUM . HE ABUSED MOD PRIVILEGES > AND SHOWED WHO HE REALLY IS > ALSO THERE IS NO PROJECTS IN THIS THREAD OTHER THAN PROJECT WANABE  AS NO HAS DISCUSSED ANYTHING OTHER THAN PITY FOR THE ABUSER . SEE HIM FOR WHAT HE REALLY IS AND YOU WILL FIND HE CONTRIBUTED NOTHING AT ALL . NOT ONE EXPERIMENT E  HE IS NOT BUT ONE OF 600 MILLION PEOPLE, A SPECK OF SAND LIKE WE ALL ARE > JUDGE AND YOU WILL BE JUDGED >

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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2009, 03:48:07 PM »
The MISTAKE he Make was He Intercepted PRIVATE EMAIL DIRECTED TO STEPHAN THEN BLATANTLY POSTED THEM IN AN OPEN FORUM . HE ABUSED MOD PRIVILEGES > AND SHOWED WHO HE REALLY IS > ALSO THERE IS NO PROJECTS IN THIS THREAD OTHER THAN PROJECT WANABE  AS NO HAS DISCUSSED ANYTHING OTHER THAN PITY FOR THE ABUSER . SEE HIM FOR WHAT HE REALLY IS AND YOU WILL FIND HE CONTRIBUTED NOTHING AT ALL . NOT ONE EXPERIMENT E  HE IS NOT BUT ONE OF 600 MILLION PEOPLE, A SPECK OF SAND LIKE WE ALL ARE > JUDGE AND YOU WILL BE JUDGED >

I stand by my earlier statement.

In addition: I do judge him for what I have seen from him. Same for Grumpy and Farrah Day. All have been a pain in my back-side a time or two but all added value to this forum. I fear it is only based upon hit-counts right now.

Back at ya -- JUDGE AND YOU WILL BE JUDGED

Let me know when you have that OU prize money.


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Re: Poynt
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2009, 05:00:31 PM »
Well I never knew that @poynt99 was @z_p_e. I thought @z_p_e left for personal reasons without much elaboration and I was really sad to see him go. He was indeed, and I guess still is very helpful to all hear, except for those whos agenda is to bring us non-OU mahem.

@Stefan

May I suggest that you please re-instate both @Poynt99 and @Grumpy and then next move is to kick out this lawyer weilding @WillyNilly out of this forum once and for all.

The guy is simply an OU devil, and it is a known fact that he creates havoc and discord everywhere he sticks his cruddy little nose. Sorry @W but you fit the profile of a real sicko and it is more then obvious that you have no real intent on helping anyone here. You just can't  help stirring up shit. In any case, any member making threats of sicking their lawyer on other members should be banned immediately, no questions asked.

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Re: Poynt
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2009, 05:07:29 PM »
yawn... i would imagine you were going to ad some hominem? careful now or you might end up on my cyberstalking fire bomb list ::)

it's simple. see this thread for why poynty is on read only.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8365.msg211610#msg211610
grumpy and farrah got their posting rights taken away for repeatedly responding with logical fallacies, mostly ad hominem. so there you have it. you might try reading/comprehending for yourself sometime, so people don't have to waste their time enlightening you...

Repeatedly responding with logical fallacies. WOW, I could think of a whole lot of people who fall in this category. And thanks for enlightening me however, you better be careful with the enlightenment since that is why these three gentlemen have been banned. They caused you to THINK, not just run off at the mouth. It is also funny that the people who are happy to see them go are the same people who these three have questioned or challenged.

I would really like to see them back. They brought some reality to this forum.

Stephan, please give them their posting rights back. They are needed here.

Offline Vortex1

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Re: Poynt
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2009, 09:32:30 PM »
It is strange indeed when a good man such as Poynt gets "read only" status after having contributed so much of value over the years, while a mouthpiece can stay and yap. Grumpy has also been a valuable contributor and suffered the same fate.

I have known these gentlemen and their skills for over three years on this forum, and can attest to their worthiness to be here.

One can only guess that the forum has degenerated over the years and like a ship whose captain has been away on "other business", some of the "mob have come to hold sway"

I stopped posting a while ago because of this. It is no longer a gentleman's club but has turned into a rowdy bar scene where those who would be intoxicated are loudly heard above others.

Excuse me, but I will have to be taking my patronage elsewhere.

.....V

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Offline WilbyInebriated

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« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2009, 09:57:22 PM »
Repeatedly responding with logical fallacies. WOW, I could think of a whole lot of people who fall in this category. And thanks for enlightening me however, you better be careful with the enlightenment since that is why these three gentlemen have been banned. They caused you to THINK, not just run off at the mouth. It is also funny that the people who are happy to see them go are the same people who these three have questioned or challenged.

I would really like to see them back. They brought some reality to this forum.

Stephan, please give them their posting rights back. They are needed here.
yes. like yourself with regard to your posts to ist? ad hominem has no place here. point of fact that is exactly why there is such polarization and emotion, because such behavior is not nipped in the bud. at least stefan recognizes such behavior is detrimental to this place and has started to take appropriate actions. they didn't cause me to think... lol that's asinine. i cause myself to think. for the record, i was not happy to see poynty go. you all seem to think this is something personal, poynty in particular, it is not. i was very disappointed to see him spiral downwards and start vindictive threads with no substance. he is an intelligent person, he just needs to stay off his pejorative pedestal and act his age. as do we all...

like sands through the hourglass so are the days of OUr lives... this soap opera is getting old.

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Re: Poynt
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2009, 10:14:33 PM »
Wilby and his dog Simmons, the only one that truly understands him..."

(Some say that people tend to look somewhat like their dogs.)

Best to leave a forum when you can't toss a few "ad hominem's" around...






Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: Poynt
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2009, 10:18:38 PM »
Wilby and his dog Simmons, the only one that truly understands him..."

(Some say that people tend to look somewhat like their dogs.)

Best to leave a forum when you can't toss a few "ad hominem's" around...
LOL. that's not me, i don't live in california and certainly would never have a myspace page... ::)  that is my dog though :) i do like how you addressed my points in your post, LOL. has utilitarian been coaching you?

best leave then... i'm sure you will be welcomed with open arms at yucca's or poynty's board... ad hom's for the everyone, on the house. :)

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Re: Poynt
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2009, 12:31:03 AM »
you know to be honest im just comeing off a read only ...

it is no fun being banned ...  but it is clear you pissed someone off to be banned

i beleave stephan has been fair .. i can not argue being set to read only ..

this fighting really and honstelly must stop ... if you all want to learn more just as i do ...

dont think i have it all figured out ... it dont work like that friends ..

and all i know is fighting only slows things down ...  the clock dont runn out 4 nuttin ..............

so i kindly ask everyone is reinstated and we all try agin the civilized aproch .. i do agree pony has special skills required to mesure such things ... 

properly ... 

as i said b4 ...   keep it real ... 

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