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Author Topic: Ultracaps tested for excess energy  (Read 210681 times)

Gobaga

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #420 on: December 15, 2009, 03:32:03 AM »
The idea is that it is easier to find a way to generate 1.5 volt then it is to 12v or even 120 ...

So yes we use battery for now  ...

OK mate.  Point taken. 

Have you tried other technologies? 

Tesla was able to charge capacitors for free - Joule thief ala cosmic rays (or whatever charged the capacitor)

I've seen a lot of  people claim to charge batteries with hv but I have yet to see it in real life.

Ever hear of an atomic battery?  I always wondered if you could make one from the Americium 242 in a smoke detector.  I think that is an alpha emitter, so might not work.  Atomic batteries last for several years.


innovation_station

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #421 on: December 15, 2009, 03:56:49 AM »
the gold ring and the BOOK OF LOVE ...

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #422 on: December 15, 2009, 04:01:58 AM »
Running LEDs from a battery is just an efficient way to light a Xmas tree.  Even if the battery is free, someone payed to build the battery and the battery doesn't last forever. 

While efficiency is a good thing, the goal of this site and the few others like it is true energy freedom.  To some this is as much as they want or need at no cost, anytime, anywhere.  That's true energy freedom.  To others it is just something that doesn't cost as much as the grid - like solar or wind.

I want it all for nothing and as much as I can get.  What about all of you?

I agree with you mostly here with one exception.  I lit those 400 leds from my EER (Earth Energy Receiver) which is free and, although it may run out eventually, (that remains to be seen) it has been going strong now for two years.  This is energy that is already in the earth and the b-cap and JT circuits allow us to tap into it to make it more usable.

I agree with Mark in that if we can get very good amounts of light for a long, long time on 1.5 volts, this opens the door to powering the circuits with other alternative means be it solar, wind, EER's, water wheels, etc.  I use very little grid lighting in my home now, mostly leds from dead batteries and other JT circuit lighting.  Soon, I hope to be able to run my heat pump from a larger version.  It may or may not be possible but I won't know if I don't try.  My electric bill is down to about $30/month and I am aiming for 0.

Bill

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #423 on: December 15, 2009, 04:24:06 AM »
Here's a little theme song for the inspector

Hope you all enjoy......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcpofztr19E

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #424 on: December 15, 2009, 04:30:53 AM »
Here's a little theme song for the inspector

Hope you all enjoy......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcpofztr19E

Those guys are great!  I used to have a telecaster like that blond tone one.

Bill

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #425 on: December 15, 2009, 04:32:49 AM »
Here's a little theme song for the inspector

Hope you all enjoy......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcpofztr19E

hope you all enjoy i turned down the cussing ...

PEACE ?

LOL

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKu3NAAWdWw&NR=1&feature=fvwp

inspector and gadget beatboxing ... lol

MileHigh

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #426 on: December 15, 2009, 05:04:10 AM »
Albert and Bill:

You guys should relax.  Especially you Albert, just relax and don't overstress yourself considering your health issues.

There was lots of trash talk today.  You have to realize something important.  The whole point is to talk about what you guys are doing and bounce some ideas off of you.  It's not about fighting, it's about understanding.  It would be very cool if you actually understood what you are doing.  I can see just that statement making both of you angry - don't - open up your minds.

I have read your claims before, but for me the real issue is just to get you to see and understand the nuts and bolts behind your claims.  That's it, as simple as that.  To shed some light on the issues.

There is a difference between understanding and doing.  You can wander through the JT thread and read about all of your different configurations and watch the clips, and see the reported results.  However, and it's a big however, the signal to noise ratio is really really low, something you might not be conscious of.

Going back to the understanding, let me take a few examples.

Okay, so you can get a JT to light four LEDs brightly.  Then 10 brightly, then 50 brightly.  Great.

Here is the question for both of you:  Please explain how that works.  I am being dead serious.  How come you can keep on adding LEDs and they stay bright, and eventually when you add a hell of a lot of LEDs finally it starts to go down in intensity?  How can a 1.5 volt battery do this?  I would really like to hear what you have to say.

For Bill, okay so you use your Earth Energy System to light your Christmas tree lights for "free."  Yes, euphemistically the light is "free."  But can you explain how it works?  You know some energy is coming from somewhere, what's the process?

That's what I'm interested in.  You can apply-apply-apply and try multiple secondaries on your JT circuits or charge capacitors or change diodes or transistors or whatever - but the real issue for me is _how_ is all this stuff working at its basic level.

I don't know why there is all of this going at loggerheads - it's crazy.  So again, it's not so much the doing, it's the understanding.

MileHigh
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Vortex1

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #427 on: December 15, 2009, 05:42:58 AM »
From MileHigh

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Okay, so you can get a JT to light four LEDs brightly.  Then 10 brightly, then 50 brightly.  Great.

Here is the question for both of you:  Please explain how that works.  I am being dead serious.  How come you can keep on adding LEDs and they stay bright, and eventually when you add a hell of a lot of LEDs finally it starts to go down in intensity?  How can a 1.5 volt battery do this?  I would really like to hear what you have to say.

This is easy to answer but out of courtesy I'll give the other guys first crack. I'll PM my answer to MileHigh. He can post it later if he likes.

Kind Regards.....V

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #428 on: December 15, 2009, 05:47:40 AM »
Thank's Vortex1, because the question is really for Albert and Bill.  Not to start a fight but to really try to get to the bottom of this issue, and shed some light on it.

Another one for Albert, a 'big picture' question.  You stated that you just want to make enough free energy for your yourself and your loved ones, your home.  Forget about everybody else, start with your own space.  That stance or philosophy has a real flaw, and I wonder if you can state what the flaw is with that philosophy.

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #429 on: December 15, 2009, 08:21:03 AM »
From MileHigh

This is easy to answer but out of courtesy I'll give the other guys first crack. I'll PM my answer to MileHigh. He can post it later if he likes.

Kind Regards.....V

Well the example given by MH is incorrect so I disagree with his premise.  Because you can light 400 leds brightly with just a small JT circuit from an AA battery before you notice a decrease in brightness from adding more, and you can light 1,000 leds from a JT circuit based upon the large toroid (Jeanna's circuit) before noticing a decrease.

LEDs, we have found, will light using high voltage in the correct frequency ranges. We do not need many mA's to do this.  (Tesla discovered this fact many, many years ago with gas filled tubes) If you load down the circuit with too many LEDs for that particular output voltage and/or the load forces the output frequency to go outside of the parameters required by the LEDs, they will get progressively dimmer and, at the saturation or tipping point, not light at all. 

We also found this to be true of gas filled tubes as well.  We light them by exciting the gas inside the tube with high voltage and within the proper frequency range and they light.  We do not need or use the element inside the tube which would require much more power, and much of that power would be wasted as heat.  This has been discovered and discussed in the early pages of the JT topic which MH, admittedly, has not read.

Bill

***EDIT***  I see that I misread the quote from MH by Vortex1.  I thought MH had said when you light 50 LEDs they start dimming so my first sentence is incorrect.

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #430 on: December 15, 2009, 02:19:33 PM »
Thank's Vortex1, because the question is really for Albert and Bill.  Not to start a fight but to really try to get to the bottom of this issue, and shed some light on it.

Another one for Albert, a 'big picture' question.  You stated that you just want to make enough free energy for your yourself and your loved ones, your home.  Forget about everybody else, start with your own space.  That stance or philosophy has a real flaw, and I wonder if you can state what the flaw is with that philosophy.
Bill Answered it . I am a Texan .We shoot first and ask questions later .The Flaw is you twisting every dam thing i say ! I said My dream is Energy independence and it starts by me sharing with the ones i know . I shared what i did so anyone can replicate it and I don't care about BIG STEAMPOWERED HYDRO CORPORATE BS! IT is true i experiment to get free power by anymeans . But i share and that means your twist everything like i am greedy or somthing . Fact is all the builders share and we could care less about you being left in the dark because you quite a long time ago . Why should you  build when you had 1000 hours of electronics already " Well be in the dark . And keep twisting everything and explain it all away but we aint going nowhere nor straying from what we do . Personally i could give a rats ass how it works as long as it does . IF you want to explain it away that's your problem not mine . If others actually cared how it worked then let them build it and diagnose it ! Like a Doctor . I'll just reap the benefits and keep on building . The S!!! is getting ready to hit the Fan boys . ARE YOU READY  ? Words will not save you but your hands will !And will over 1000+pages  of Jt examinations and Experiment that should tell you somthing . That OUR Jt circuit is something specila . It's not being utilized by any one but us . It every light in the world used Jt technologht the power companies would lose moeny because the demand  would drop by half.if every Flashlight used high powered 7 watt leds running on a few milliamps with one volt ,then we take care of the greedy battery companys . So step by step the energy problems can be eliminated . Forget Sun and wind .the Earth Itself is a generator and one volt technology is what we are all about . Its easy to extract 1 and 2 volts from the Magnetic Ley of the earth , Proven and factual there is an interaction other than galvanic . Stubble field research continues . I also power and charge up Baps from the ground and easily convert that low power in to HV  . SO if you really want to know then make it and explain away . There are hidden Secrets of our earth that will always be hidden but tapping it is a reality if you just do it. Free  energy has a cost ,but its much less if you spend on something you can hold in your hand rather than flush that money down the drain buying power and batteries . The first step is taken by a few . One person can change the world . I would like to show the world My inventions . I do . I sell them . I want to show something Ou you can hold in your hand . The proof is in the pudding as you say .I make pudding ! BTW my little experiments are still running and AA battery is still 1.301 and Bcap is still Charging going on what over 3weeks now. hehhehe ..I told you . I don't bluff and i know what to look for .

Albert
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innovation_station

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #431 on: December 15, 2009, 03:49:50 PM »
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i guess im a digg out this old toy ...  : )

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innovation_station

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #432 on: December 15, 2009, 04:24:45 PM »
@ gadget ...

do you care to apply your mod to my board ...

so it will run days insted of hours ...

104 cap was it .. lol

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when ever you want to ..

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WilbyInebriated

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #433 on: December 15, 2009, 05:18:08 PM »
bill, gadget, mk1, ist...
please, don't feed the trolls. that's all we are doing here is feeding these two...

both of them CLAIM to be experts, however, these claims of theirs are unsubstantiated so they are really only experts in their own minds. neither of them have shared any of their experiments, circuits or otherwise. they haven't even helped measure someone else's circuit or otherwise... you can take the time if you wish and go over all their posts like i just did to see this is true. honestly, i wouldn't recommend it, it was a rather boring read and time you won't get back...

all they do is sit in their ivory towers (not under bridges) of wikipedia gleaned knowledge, looking for someone to belittle to fill their ego. it's not worth your time to engage them, they are talkers, not doers. all they are ever going to do is talk in an attempt to goad you, to get you not to build or to build it 'their' way, don't fall for it any longer, it's just playing into their game. they are pushing your buttons, calling you out by name, etc. resist the urge to respond, we don't need their 'approval' to continue doing while they continue talking...

the earth battery /jt combo is a great thing, and truly free energy. too bad they are too full of themselves to see it. i love the logical fallacy arguments posited against it...
us: "hey everyone, check out this earth battery/jt circuit combo. it's free energy!

them: "well, m harumph, harumph. you see mmm it's not really free because you had to pay for the magnesium and carbon"

us: "i got the circuit components free from the camera shop and the magnesium and the carbon free from the dump..."

them: "well, m harumph, harumph. you see mmm it's not really free because someone had to pay for the magnesium and carbon"

us: "no, it's really free to me if i didn't pay anything for it. furthermore, your argument is flawed from the start. the energy from the earth (also wind, hydro and solar) is free, the 'appliance' that gathers, coheres, uses, consumes or whatever term you fancy of course has manufacturing costs for someone at some point but the energy it gathers, coheres, uses or consumes is free. you are confusing the 'appliance' with the energy it 'uses'...
for example your table lamp is an energy 'appliance' that you paid a set price for. however, you also pay the utility company for every unit of energy it uses. this applies to your lights, furnace, tv, stove, etc. with our earth battery/jt combo things are different. you don't pay for a single unit of energy used, even if you had to pay for the 'appliance'... free energy.

them: "well, m harumph, harumph. you see mmm, harumph..."



tinu

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #434 on: December 15, 2009, 06:58:13 PM »
“harump, harump …. oil is free energy, isn’t it?! bingo! how do I get some?”
Sorry for asking here; I just couldn’t locate the proper thread. lol