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WilbyInebriated

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #405 on: December 14, 2009, 11:28:02 AM »
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan

extraordinary claims DO NOT require extraordinary proof. sagan said some great things, this was not one of them. you are positing  a hopelessly flawed argument.

case in point, big bang theory. summed up as, 'at first, there was nothing...then it exploded.' now that is arguably the most extraordinary claim ever... big bang theory 'defies gravity' and violates innumerable laws of physics, it remains a HYPOTHETICAL mathematical model, yet it is promoted as truth by NASA and institutions of higher learning around the world. and that's only one example among many. your most sacred 'truths' of popular science are in reality EXTRAORDINARY CLAIMS which have never required EXTRAORDINARY EVIDENCE.

and make no mistake about it, that is what your science is... popular science.

gadgetmall

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #406 on: December 14, 2009, 02:31:27 PM »
MH what are you Doing Here ? You don't believe in free energy nor the terminology and your are not wanted here if you are not a free energy researcher . This  is OVERUNITY .com and its for that purpose us experimenters and inventors are here . You are a Hopeless Flawed Argument and well you suck at it because no matter what you say your Digging your own grave and are completely ignored  because it evident  you have never built anything remote amazing like 99 percent of of have to prove to ourselves free energy is here and here to stay . How many watts is your Christmas tree burning this year from house current . Mine is running free !~!

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #407 on: December 14, 2009, 02:49:38 PM »
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free energy is here and here to stay . How many watts is your Christmas tree burning this year from house current . Mine is running free !~!

No it isn't a pure FE device. Don't know what you are using to light your lights, you do not say, only imply, maybe some secondary effect like solar, wind or captured radio waves. Somebody paid for it usually in the manufacturing costs of the transducer, then it is either free or intercepted.

Even if it is from nearly dead batteries that the JT scavenged a few extra joules, somebody initially paid for the batteries.

Put up or shut up, Albert. Enough of the BS already. Show your circuit that lights many watts of tree lights for free, and save the world, be a hero.

I do agree with Wilby on at least one point....the big bang does appear to be "big bogus". There are several competing theories. This one is acceptable because it doesn't rattle the church's belief systems.

I'm willing to place a bet that I was building and optimizing JT circuits before Albert was born......any takers?
« Last Edit: December 14, 2009, 03:11:50 PM by Vortex1 »

gadgetmall

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #408 on: December 14, 2009, 06:20:28 PM »
No it isn't a pure FE device. Don't know what you are using to light your lights, you do not say, only imply, maybe some secondary effect like solar, wind or captured radio waves. Somebody paid for it usually in the manufacturing costs of the transducer, then it is either free or intercepted.

Even if it is from nearly dead batteries that the JT scavenged a few extra joules, somebody initially paid for the batteries.

Put up or shut up, Albert. Enough of the BS already. Show your circuit that lights many watts of tree lights for free, and save the world, be a hero.

I do agree with Wilby on at least one point....the big bang does appear to be "big bogus". There are several competing theories. This one is acceptable because it doesn't rattle the church's belief systems.

I'm willing to place a bet that I was building and optimizing JT circuits before Albert was born......any takers?
I built My first 12vcd to 115 volt ac inverter in 8th grade when every one else in the class was building electromagnets So i (little brother and I)could watch My 9 inch B/W tube Tv in Dads car when we took Three hour trips every other weekend .. Yea i'll bet you Fool  the jt was introduced in 2001 . I'm almost 53 what are your  90 or 30 something ?! And lighting up 300 400 lights was last years project DUDE . Posted over a year ago . You Guys cant read . . Matter of fact we light from an earth battery . I pioneered the fix for fuji low draw . . Pirate runs them as all the other experimenters in Jt  . old news last year . we are now producing 10,000 of thousands of volts from dead batterys . Its free alright . just pick them up from the side of the road and have friends save em .DUH ! You cant top My experience or inventions . that's why I'm Gadget and That's why i am here . To build and share Experiments with others who want to build Fe also .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iINoVWbdBpk
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Pics are taken in the day time . Real bright at night one little battery last over 28 hours . And this is nothing compared to  Others that zLove Ou research .

 
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Pirate88179

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #409 on: December 14, 2009, 06:47:19 PM »
Yes, I ran all of my Christmas lights, over 400 leds, for free last year.  EER to supercaps to modified Fuji.  It didn't cost me, or anyone else, a dime.  It works and just about anyone can do it.  I just love it when "educated" folks tell me it can't work but then, I look at all of my lights lit up and I feel sorry for them. 

So, since this has all been known and has been around for 50 years then no one plugs their Christmas lights into the grid any more....right?  Do you?  Oh, so you would rather pay the power company instead of lighting them for free, even though you know how and have known for 50 years...is this what you are saying?  Is this supposed to make sense to us?  To anyone?

Bill

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #410 on: December 14, 2009, 06:49:31 PM »
I looked for your Christmas tree last year but could find it Bill.

Al


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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #411 on: December 14, 2009, 06:52:13 PM »
Al:

I just went back and added 2 photos to my last post of 300 leds and then 400 on my tree.

Merry Christmas

Bill

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #412 on: December 14, 2009, 07:02:55 PM »
:) Thats the ones . Man Vortex(farra ? )and MH are True Slackers . They have No idea whats going on here at Ou and the amount of work that Has been done and it being done . If they are so smart why do they keep repeating crap we did years ago? Cause they are Slackers ,bums .Ou haters . Scrooges and a few more nasty names i invented for people i don't like . 

Merry Christmas OU  Experimenters !! We have a Great NEw Year Comming  Up and It will surPRIZE everyone !
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WilbyInebriated

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #413 on: December 14, 2009, 07:58:43 PM »
No it isn't a pure FE device. Don't know what you are using to light your lights, you do not say, only imply, maybe some secondary effect like solar, wind or captured radio waves. Somebody paid for it usually in the manufacturing costs of the transducer, then it is either free or intercepted.

Even if it is from nearly dead batteries that the JT scavenged a few extra joules, somebody initially paid for the batteries.
if he didn't pay, it was free to him. all of your elaborate euphemisms and moving of the goalposts don't change that fact. ie: if someone buys a solar cell and gives it to me, it didn't cost me a dime, it was free to me, and that's what matters, the bottom line so to speak.

what kind of twisted logic are you trying to applying here? if you are going to argue... at least present a cogent one.

Put up or shut up, Albert. Enough of the BS already. Show your circuit that lights many watts of tree lights for free, and save the world, be a hero.
indeed enough of the bullshit, it's in the jt thread that you mental giants refuse to read...

I do agree with Wilby on at least one point....the big bang does appear to be "big bogus". There are several competing theories. This one is acceptable because it doesn't rattle the church's belief systems.
i never said it was bogus, don't go putting words in my mouth that i haven't said. i'll repeat it again since you seem a little slow on the comprehension. the big bang theory is an extraordinary claim which has never required extraordinary evidence,

I'm willing to place a bet that I was building and optimizing JT circuits before Albert was born......any takers?
i'm willing to bet you will avoid doing so, just like you avoided answering my last pointed question and responded instead with a red herring logical fallacy. in your own words, put up or shut up. answer my previous question and post your 'optimized' jt circuit...


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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #414 on: December 14, 2009, 10:35:58 PM »
Around 1956 at age 10, I was given a personal tour of the Philco Transistor Plant in Lansdale PA. Back then they were manufacturing point contact and surface barrier type transistors. I witnessed firsthand the Czochralkski method of growing germanium crystals and all aspects of transistor manufacturing.

I was already building transistor circuits at this time since the CK722 and CK709 had become available to experimenters for around $0.99.

I was pleased to be given a small bag full of the Philco germanium transistors various types...I still have a few. One of the bright engineers from the Philco operation volunteered his time in the evenings to teach me and a few friends in the neighborhood the ins and outs of applying transistors.

I built many JT type oscillators in that time period and rather enjoy to this day seeing how much I can get from a single transistor circuit.

There is a way to optimize this single transistor circuit you call the Joule Thief....we called it the blocking oscillator. Perhaps when the signal to noise ratio improves on the forum I will post it.

But here's a warmup: http://mysite.du.edu/~etuttle/electron/elect37.htm

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #415 on: December 15, 2009, 01:06:26 AM »
Vortex1:

It was not called a transistor when invented and patented, (1947) it was called a Semiconductor amplifier.  My father used to eat lunch with William Shockley (The inventor of the transistor, well along with the other 2 fellows) every day...so what is your point?  Or do you even have a point?  I guess not.

Bill 

PS  This team from Bell Labs won the Nobel Prize in physics in 1956

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #416 on: December 15, 2009, 01:50:07 AM »
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My father used to eat lunch with William Shockley

lmao

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #417 on: December 15, 2009, 02:08:22 AM »
lmao

He worked down the hall from him at Bell Labs, Murry Hill, NJ.  Since it took you 10 years to get into transistors from their inception, I guess you are still behind?  Otherwise, all of your flashlights would only need one battery like ours, and your Christmas lights would be free.  So you have been working with these circuits for 30 years and you still can't even do that?  And we should listen to you why?

Bill

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #418 on: December 15, 2009, 03:08:30 AM »
Running LEDs from a battery is just an efficient way to light a Xmas tree.  Even if the battery is free, someone payed to build the battery and the battery doesn't last forever. 

While efficiency is a good thing, the goal of this site and the few others like it is true energy freedom.  To some this is as much as they want or need at no cost, anytime, anywhere.  That's true energy freedom.  To others it is just something that doesn't cost as much as the grid - like solar or wind.

I want it all for nothing and as much as I can get.  What about all of you?

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #419 on: December 15, 2009, 03:20:59 AM »
Running LEDs from a battery is just an efficient way to light a Xmas tree.  Even if the battery is free, someone payed to build the battery and the battery doesn't last forever. 

While efficiency is a good thing, the goal of this site and the few others like it is true energy freedom.  To some this is as much as they want or need at no cost, anytime, anywhere.  That's true energy freedom.  To others it is just something that doesn't cost as much as the grid - like solar or wind.

I want it all for nothing and as much as I can get.  What about all of you?

The idea is that it is easier to find a way to generate 1.5 volt then it is to 12v or even 120 ...

So yes we use battery for now  ...