Maybe they should of called it an UltraBattery or anything other then UltraCap. It may have reduced the amount of arguments here. Not all, but a lot.

IST, not sure what you mean by the scope shot. It's only a ringing signal, nothing special, or am I missing something??

mr . m ...   yes you are ... and i care not to argue about it ... if you can build it and have the skills ... i will teach you ..  then you can set them stright ..

mh

im not gonna argue .. you know better ...  nuf said ...

william

Listen, You don't need to be ignorant about this. You know I have the skills and I don't need you to teach me. It is a simple question if I missed something. Is it possible for you to explain to me what you think you see in this scope shot.

i am sorry if you read this as ignarnt .. totaly not the intenction  benind my reply ...


yikes ..  i just offered to teach YOU 1 0N 1 ..  THEN YOU SIR CAN SHARE ...

this is what i ment mr.m

o boy .... 

william

 btw im well aware of your skills this is why i offered ... 

dont read my words with my dark eye .... ok   read them with BOTH  ... please

IST/William:

Your waveform is just a standard ring-down associated with an RLC circuit.  For anyone that is interested you can look up "RLC circuit" on Wikipedia.  For what it's worth it will also give you a sense of what the "real world" is like with respect to electronics.

MileHigh

Milehigh . Have a nice Christmas Sir . I won't ignore you  if you Please don't call me stupid and i don't know anything . I used to know it all . passing College and  fcc exams was  easy for me before My stroke . I had a brain stroke and it affected my long and short term memory and i am not as sharp as i was  but i am in no way ignorant  and i can experiment and i do have eyes and  a brain  and compassion to keep on keeping on .. I will take what you know and give freely with an OPEN MIND . It appears you have explained away all hope of any free energy at all so you are calling all other inventors wrong and here is My stand  :Protect and Defend Free Energy Inventors. The United States Government must write laws to protect and defend “Free Energy Inventors.” Free energy is simple to create it just requires the political will and protection to flourish. Presently, Obama is nearly ready to pass “Cap and Trade” legislation that will place a cost on carbon pollution. This tax is all ready figured into future budgets. Since this revenue is all ready spent, any free energy device would not be accepted since it could interfere with future/present tax outlays.
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Free energy inventors are a persecuted class of citizen. Every inventor that shows promise has been threatened, slapped with secrecy orders, stolen, beaten or killed for their ideals and inventions. The powers that be are deeply embedded with the carbon fuel industry. The largest fraud in human history is that of carbon fuels. Ever since Nikola Tesla, 1943, has free energy devices been suppressed. Today, you can Google “free energy” and come across thousands of inventions along those lines. Innovation should be protected; it is our future and without it, this country will die. Stop suppressing the one thing that makes America a great country. I have heard there are in excess of 30,000 secrecy orders on new ideas and technology, since it may clash with the powers that control energy. Reviewing and releasing these secrecy orders could the be fast route in reviving America’s economy.
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The electric generator has not evolved much since its conception. One unit of energy in resulting one unit of energy out. This is a very inefficient system and it has stayed this way because it very profitable for the carbon fuel venders. I have personally seen devices that implore greater efficiencies in energy creation (web searches), but will never see the light of day because it threatens the carbon venders’ bottom lines. Presidents and congressmen have promised for years to combat the problems of energy but they talk the talk but not walk the walk. Google “free energy” or “HHO gas engine.” You will find its there, but its just being wiped out systematically by those who want your money for heating your homes and filling your gas tanks. Carbon is the greatest con job in human history.
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I dream of a day when the energy to heat my house, drive my car, and power my electronics was absolutely free. Where a neighborhood banded together to purchase an energy device to power their street thus removing themselves from the grid. The end of the oil age and into the golden age. This is my dream and it can be now, but it is systematically stamped out by the powers that control our daily lives. Innovation which was our nations driving force has ended, but it is not dead, it simply needs your protection to flourish. Innovation is what drives our economy; it supplies jobs and opportunities. Innovation can lift our country from this rut of depression. Innovation is the key that unlocks the next golden age of mankind.

Gadget

Gadget:

I am very sorry that you had a stroke and I admire your courage.  However, if you make statements and I disagree with them I am going to tell you.  If you make statements that are definitive and indicate that your ideas and thought processes are way off track then I am going to tell you also.  You can disagree with me and there is nothing that I can do about it.  We all have a responsibility to try to get at the truth when doing formal or informal research.

If I tell you that you are wrong or don't understand something I am not calling you "stupid."  Look at the example of supercapacitors and ultracapacitors.  I have been telling everyone in the group that suerpcapacitors and ultracapacitors are simply capacitors.  Their one main distinction is that they have very large capacitance values.  The capacitance values are so large that they seem almost inconceivable to people that may have been out of touch with the electronics industry for the past 10 years.  None the less, supercapacitors and ultracapacitors are simply large capacitors.  Yourself and others on the JT threads seemingly don't want to believe this.  It takes away from the idea that there is something "extra special" about supercapacitors.  However, when some of you are put on the spot to explain what makes supercapacitors different and special, you are unable to offer up any substantive reasons for your argument.   Many times you have made statements about supercapacitors being able to burn nichrome wire and batteries can't do this.  Many times you have been told that this is normal and expected behaviour and it is not surprising.  Small batteries have never been able to burn wire because their output impedance is too high and they can't supply enough current.  Any capacitor that's large enough has always been able to burn wire because their output impedance is nearly zero and they can supply enough current.  You don't need a supercapacitor to burn wire, it can be any type of capacitor, as long as it is large enough.

All your comments about government conspiracies can be taken with a grain of salt.  The government is not worried about what is going on here.  We all would like to have a better energy future and I think things will evolve in that direction over time.  It will be based on renewable energy technologies and not "free energy" technologies.  You may disagree and then the burden of proof rests on your shoulders and the shoulders of others that think like you.

Your proposition is that you can put some sort of device inside a transparent glass box and somehow that device will produce heat from "nowhere" or "some other place" or the device will "create heat from nothing."  The scientists say that you can't get something from nothing.

When you look at a battery charging a supercap via a JT circuit, you can make measurements on the energy and see if it is over unity or not.   You can charge the supercap with the circuit, then use the supercap to partially recharge the battery, and then discharge the remaining energy in the supercap as your "free energy."  You think that you can do this cycle over and over and over without end.  Go ahead and test it.  Groundloop is gracious enough to layout the PCB and pay for them, and then individuals just have to buy the components and populate the PCBs and start their testing.

When people do the testing they might be able to run the device through 10 cycles, 15 cycles, perhaps even 20 cycles.  Eventually the battery will run dead, the system will run out of energy.  The battery only contains a certain amount of equivalent heat energy and there is no "magic source" of electrical/heat energy to keep the battery fully charged for every cycle.

Go ahead and build the thing.  I am not trying to stop you, nor is the government trying to stop you.  As long as the people doing the testing are recording and reporting their results accurately then I say bring it on.  However, anyone testing this setup has a responsibility to themselves and to others have a basic grasp of the the electronics and measurement techniques to make their data credible.  You seem to want to ignore this requirement and as the de facto leader of this project, I say that it is incumbent upon you to understand the basic electronics and measurement techniques. 

This requirement to understand is where your JT group comes into play.  How many of you can calculate the amount of Joules in an AA battery based on the ampere-hour rating?  I don't know the answer to that question but I can tell you that all of you should be able to do this if you want to run the tests.  Somebody should raise the issue on your JT thread and you should debate it amongst yourselves until all of your are satisfied that you understand.  I am sure that there is someone in the JT group that does understand how to make the calculation that will be involved in the project so there is no reason that everyone doing the testing can't be up to speed on this issue.

MileHigh

IST:

Now you are "H?"  I thought that you were/are "w" or "william"

I don't know what the point of your posting is, nor do I know why you assume this strange online persona.

To repeat, the waveform you show is what a damped, a.k.a. exponentially decaying amplitude envelope of an RC resonant oscillator looks like.

I have no clue where your strange comments come from especially considering your voice in your YouTube clips sounds perfectly sane.

MileHigh

mh

with all do respect sir ..

we all are ...

like i said it all goes so deep ..

then we realize we are only children to a higher race beond us ...  and they have parents ..

it is a never ending cycle .. we know .. we choose to forget ... then nature reminds us to remember ..

this is how you are human ... nature is so kind it allows you to grow away ... only to reconnect agin .. you see



peace!

w

the scope shot showen is not good to describe the effects of harmonic entanglement ..

basically with a earth resonant coil .. you flick it ... and harvest only the harmonics .. have a tuned coil to primary and grab a bit to allow self run mode ..

mr mag ... if i dont keep high .. i go low .. thank you ... sorry this is true ... my freqs are to high for earth ... i have always  burnt! 

w

and i do see what you are saying ... 

im saying technoalgy can heal almost anything you can imagine exreamly fast .. with percisision

see what im saying ...

the jt i dont care bout it ... the proper understanding i do care for!

this is mostly earthly engery .. there cosmic engeries too and the sun engery ... there many sources ..

as i currently beleave ..

i do not say i know all .. i bairly know any!  im just a beginner ... but ready to learn  safely ...

william

Although the graph in the previous post does not show capacitance, I manually calculated the UC capacitance at various points throughout the entire charging period from 0V to 374mV, and the capacitance hardly changed after the UC warmed up. What an awesome capacitor!

Paul