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Offline gadgetmall

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #525 on: December 19, 2009, 10:21:54 AM »
MR Mh thisis for you bro . part one and part two . You cant explain this away can you ? IF you do then your the best !

part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLI0tDd7NnY

part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVmwc9OsyB0

Now i have heard voltage dont matter . well the reason this does what it does and here is a hint . I sacrificed a bit of light to make it self run . HMMM ?

Merry Christmas either way . I cannot hold anything against you as only know what you know . what you don't know bother's me though.NAd i did not get a chance to read  a post that you called me a scammer . well it was uncalled for and i am glad there is a mod here . You best replicate with your hand than your mouth ! I will never try to scam anyone . You might with disinformation but to slander me crossed the line big time . You should be ashamed Mh . Why do you hate the fact that I of all people have Ou and you are so smart that you don't? Jealous people make me sick .

Inspector Gadget
« Last Edit: December 19, 2009, 10:53:05 AM by gadgetmall »

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #526 on: December 19, 2009, 10:41:00 AM »
Personally, I fail to see where anything is to be gained by Gadget 'faking' the data on his self runner.

This seems to be confirmed by the circuit posted by jesus.

Gadget, my congrats seem to have been buried a number of pages back.

I always knew you had it in you...jesus also - you guys are bloodhounds.

Regards...
Well the Logic i have is to make sure everyone see's Ou . I have no reason to fake anything . I am not Mylow . I want people to do what i did . This is why i have tried to show how simple it really is to self run a project . It really is right in front of you guys . If i release My schematic of this elight what will that accomplish ? Nothing . I released the most simplest circuit in the world the JT charging a Bcap . What did i get for it ?  Negative remarks and grief . No one replicated it . Well Paul tried but i guess building 100's of jts i have learned somthing a newbe don't know . You know My focus is on low power circuits and i mean low input as possible with the highest output possible . Reason One is you can capture the excess energy not only in Bcaps but electrolytics and special diode configurations . I can tell you that this modified light began as a normal Jt  and not as My patent E-light using special  doped transistors . this one uses mpa 06  and three diodes and two electrolytic caps . Now if you build a jt with two secondaries and rectify one , rectify two and then rectify the EC junction you will have three voltages .. Go from there  ,, here is part two  and the outcome of what you can do with that configuration remember part one volts  . Another clue . I sacrificed some light for the run charger with another cap ,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVmwc9OsyB0

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #527 on: December 19, 2009, 10:55:57 AM »
All,

Today I played around with my JT and was testing the new battery capacitor I got
from Gadget. Thanks Gadget! :-) I soon discovered that this bcap will discharge at
a unbelievable rate if allowed to do so. I accidental shorted two wires and I have never
seen a transistor fly to the roof before. LOL

But that was not what I wanted to tell you. I wanted to try out regular batteries
since Gadget talked about using discharged normal alkaline batteries. I had a discharged
9 volt Duracell and it was down to 7,3 volt. I connected this battery and hooked a volt meter
to the battery connector. Then I watched the voltage slowly drop as the battery powered
the JT and lit up my single super bright LED.

Now, on this build I use a yellow Iron powder core with 2 x 12 turns and 1 x 44 turns.
I noticed that my out voltage through the Germanium diode was approx. 27 volt.
So I just connected the output wire to the plus of the battery. The voltage in the battery
did not drop so fast now. This was expected since we now have a feed back. Then I did a
mistake. I connected the Germanium output to one of the wires coming
from the 44 turn secondary output.

I noticed a jump in the battery voltage. I then connected my LED to the other end of the
44 turn and back to the collector of the transistor. You never guess what happened.
The voltage in the battery (it had go down to approx. 6 volt during test.) started to climb!!!!!!!!
It has climbed up to 7,8 volt now and has been running for more than an hour.
The ultra bright LED is lit to almost half brightness.

I do not expect the battery to last forever but I will run the circuit through the night and
check the voltage tomorrow.

The JT is a amazing little circuit. :-)

Alex.
This is exactly how i discovered what i did . By accident . Good job botching up a perfectly good no good for nothing jt and making free energy . darn .. now you will get flamed ;)

Albert

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #528 on: December 19, 2009, 12:35:41 PM »
Albert,

My JT has been running for 12 hours now. The battery voltage has dropped to 7,67 Volt.
The ultra bright LED is still lighting at half the maximum (approx). Could you check your
emails? I have sent you a couple of mails.

Alex.

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #529 on: December 19, 2009, 02:04:38 PM »
MR Mh thisis for you bro . part one and part two . You cant explain this away can you ? IF you do then your the best !

part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLI0tDd7NnY

part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVmwc9OsyB0

Now i have heard voltage dont matter . well the reason this does what it does and here is a hint . I sacrificed a bit of light to make it self run . HMMM ?

Merry Christmas either way . I cannot hold anything against you as only know what you know . what you don't know bother's me though.NAd i did not get a chance to read  a post that you called me a scammer . well it was uncalled for and i am glad there is a mod here . You best replicate with your hand than your mouth ! I will never try to scam anyone . You might with disinformation but to slander me crossed the line big time . You should be ashamed Mh . Why do you hate the fact that I of all people have Ou and you are so smart that you don't? Jealous people make me sick .

Inspector Gadget

That was awesome Gadget!  If that's not OU it must be closer then anyone else has got to unity!   :o

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #530 on: December 19, 2009, 02:40:46 PM »
Albert:

I don't recall ever calling you a scammer and I don't think you are one.  I only glanced at your web site for a few seconds and don't remember anything about it.

You are simply a good guy that is misunderstanding what you are seeing.  For example, in your two clips, you can see that the LEDs are low in intensity and we know they are also flashing.  Suppose for the sake of argument the LEDs are dissipating 1/500th of a watt of power.  Then convert the ampere-hours of the two AA batteries into Joules, and then make the estimate of the run time.  Whatever the actual numbers are, I think it is safe to assume that the LED light should run for at least a month or more.

If you were serious about what you were doing, then you would measure the energy in the batteries at the start of your test, then run the LED light for one or two months, and then measure the energy in the batteries at the end of the test.

I can guarantee you that you will measure less energy in the batteries at the end of the test.  It is as simple and as straightforward as that.

If you don't believe me, then just devise a testing plan like I say above and run the experiment.

This is the point where I suspect our disconnect will take place - again.  You will scoff at my suggestion that you actually run a serious test and make some measurements, and instead claim that it "must be free energy" because it has run for a month, you don't see any noticeable voltage drop, and just because you said so.  And I will repeat that battery voltage means almost nothing.

So, have I changed your thought process about your claim of over unity in your last two clips with the LED light?  I don't think so.

Has any claim you have made about your stuff ever surprised or phased me?  The answer is no.

MileHigh

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #531 on: December 19, 2009, 03:49:04 PM »
Cant measure the batteries dead cause they never will be dead now . I think they were dead dead like maybe .5 .6 somewhere in there , They would not run in anything so they were DEAD.. They are not dead now . Your right i don't care about voltage , even the 1.7 volt battery i removed from it a while back .Noop don't mean a thing to my one cell flashlight it was used it . Hey Everyone VOLTS ARE NOTHING  !!!! Hear that !! MH SAYS SO SO ITS GOT  to be Gospel !
AHH well . No need to make a part three then but the run this morn is 1.554 and the charge is 1.410  and the light lights . SO forget Volts .. forget light . I'll forget everything i know to be true . Hey i got one for ya . CURRENT IS NOTHING !! know why ? because without volts it don't move so its nothing .Whats current without volts .. whats volts without current .  BUT i can short one connection on that light in the video and its FULL BRIGHT !! found that out by accident too.



All i can say is


HO HO HO  Merry Christmas !
« Last Edit: December 19, 2009, 04:15:08 PM by gadgetmall »

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #532 on: December 19, 2009, 04:38:13 PM »
When are you going to mail the JT, gadget? Before I gave you my address I had you promise me that you would mail it. After I mailed it to you the only thing you've written to me is about losing your memory stick. You wrote -->

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There is something wrong with your joule thief . I would like to send you one free of charge for Christmas  if you accept.

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #533 on: December 19, 2009, 04:45:08 PM »
Well Paul tried but i guess building 100's of jts i have learned somthing a newbe don't know .

Maybe not because I don't have your core, but IMO that will not make it cop>1, but we'll see if you mail it. Until then I have say that after adjusting everything to the best positions, the highest efficiency was 55%.

I would like to give gadgetmall till Christmas to do what he said he would do and mail me one of his JT's so I can test it. If not, then I'll have to spend much needed $ to buy some of the goldmine toroids and then mine will be just like gadgets.

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #534 on: December 19, 2009, 05:10:50 PM »
Hi Paul No your not going to get it before Christmas as the mail is snail this time of year . I will try to get to the PO  next week but My daughter is out of school now and santa has to get busy . I told you i would send you on ebut i have no time for this stuff untill after the holidays including My prize machine . so please don't put a dead line on me . you know my situation  . im a single dad and know one knows what that is like haveing to clean,cook wash cloths dry fold feed the 6 animals feed your lirttle girl , do santa , see santa pay attention to her and well you have no idea plus I'm sick! and disabled on top of all that i have someone putting a dead line on me  ? no  no no.. I was kind enuff to give one for free . you will get it on my own time . next year is close enuff .

Albert

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #535 on: December 19, 2009, 05:38:26 PM »
Hi Paul No your not going to get it before Christmas as the mail is snail this time of year . I will try to get to the PO  next week but My daughter is out of school now and santa has to get busy . I told you i would send you on ebut i have no time for this stuff untill after the holidays including My prize machine . so please don't put a dead line on me . you know my situation  . im a single dad and know one knows what that is like haveing to clean,cook wash cloths dry fold feed the 6 animals feed your lirttle girl , do santa , see santa pay attention to her and well you have no idea plus I'm sick! and disabled on top of all that i have someone putting a dead line on me  ? no  no no.. I was kind enuff to give one for free . you will get it on my own time . next year is close enuff .

Albert

You know what Albert, forget it. Next year???  It will never happen, period, and you know it. Sorry, but I now see you in different light. I gave you my address after making you promised me by email. I KNEW IT!!!! I KNEW IT AS SURE AS DAY YOU'D SAY SOMETHING TO DELAY IT, WHICH = NEVER. Because of you I now have move out of here A.S.A.P. because I'm doing my research to hopefully help all life on this planet and I'm not going to take chances on anything.

I tested your design, it failed miserably, 55% efficient! Sure, I could use the larger battery and have it charge the UC for weeks on end, but that proves nothing. Now today I'll try to get some money to buy the goldmine toroids.

I'm not done here, as there's something that's been bothering me that I know about gadgetmall. I just might copy & paste a private message that gadgetmall sent me regarding the $30 ultracapacitors sold on ebay. I now see gadgetmall in completely different light.

Paul

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #536 on: December 19, 2009, 06:45:15 PM »
You know what Albert, forget it. Next year???  It will never happen, period, and you know it. Sorry, but I now see you in different light. I gave you my address after making you promised me by email. I KNEW IT!!!! I KNEW IT AS SURE AS DAY YOU'D SAY SOMETHING TO DELAY IT, WHICH = NEVER. Because of you I now have move out of here A.S.A.P. because I'm doing my research to hopefully help all life on this planet and I'm not going to take chances on anything.

I tested your design, it failed miserably, 55% efficient! Sure, I could use the larger battery and have it charge the UC for weeks on end, but that proves nothing. Now today I'll try to get some money to buy the goldmine toroids.

I'm not done here, as there's something that's been bothering me that I know about gadgetmall. I just might copy & paste a private message that gadgetmall sent me regarding the $30 ultracapacitors sold on ebay. I now see gadgetmall in completely different light.

Paul
have a little patience and quit being such a cry baby. it's the holidays and gagdet's real life and children take priority over your 'quest to save the world'... you have to move out because of gadget? ::) how asinine, especially if you "knew it" and did it anyways...

don't put your failure on gadget. we can see by his video that his build is obviously superior to yours. you failed miserably is more like it...

yes of course, the vindictive child now emerges... you're starting to sound like yucca. we see you in a different light too, and your true colors.

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #537 on: December 19, 2009, 06:57:26 PM »
I just bought 15 of the goldmine cores, G6683

http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G6683

There's something fishy going at this forum. I did gadgets experiment, and it was NOT cop>1. Good luck with in getting that cash prize gadget. IMO you'll never get it. I'll still hold back on forwarding the private message I got from gadget a month or so ago.

After I get the G6683 core, I'll replicate your experiment again gadget. And if it's less than 100% efficiency then what will be your excuse? I didn't dangle the wires just right? I'll wait till after the replication to say if you're legit or if you're just another mylow who's here to distract from legit research.

BTW, the 55% efficient circuit was not mine. It's not difficult to build DC - DC converters that are over 90% efficient.

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #538 on: December 19, 2009, 08:10:46 PM »
Paul:

Look, I don't have much money most of the time but for crying out loud, those Goldmine toroids are 5 for ONE DOLLAR.  So, I would hold off on criticizing Gadget's design until you have replicated it using the same components.  I see that you have ordered them now...that is good.  Build it exactly like he did and then we will see.

Gadget is a better person than I am, if I had offered to send you something for free and you went off on me like that, it would be a cold day in hell before I sent you anything. 

So please stop your insinuations about private messages and stick to the replications and experiments ok?  Threatening to publish private messages that someone sent you does not raise your credibility here at all.  Think about that.

Thanks,

Bill

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #539 on: December 19, 2009, 08:17:16 PM »
Gadget:

It was NOT MH that posted that your device is a scam, it was a user named ICESTORM.  He is the same guy from over at Youtube on your first e-light video.

MH is correct, the post I removed was from icestorm. I just wanted to set the record straight.

Bil