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WilbyInebriated

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #435 on: December 15, 2009, 07:04:31 PM »
“harump, harump …. oil is free energy, isn’t it?! bingo! how do I get some?”
Sorry for asking here; I just couldn’t locate the proper thread. lol
no, it isn't, unless you own an oil well. please clarify your position...

tinu

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #436 on: December 15, 2009, 07:44:58 PM »
My position?  :D
Hmmm…make three out of those two you refer to in your previous post. ;)

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #437 on: December 15, 2009, 07:46:56 PM »
My position?  :D
Hmmm…make three out of those two you refer to in your previous post. ;)
yeah, your position... clarify exactly how it is that you consider oil to be free energy, instead of positing random illogical statements like your previous two posts. ie: make three out of what two? could you possibly be any more vague?

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #438 on: December 15, 2009, 07:58:28 PM »
I do not consider oil to be free energy (as I am sure it is free energy);
but you do consider so, unless your oil comes from air:
the energy from the earth (also wind, hydro and solar) is free,


that's all we are doing here is feeding these two...
"those two", darlin'.
I may be vague but "posting random illogical statements"?!
well... you better read again your last posts...  ;D

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #439 on: December 15, 2009, 08:01:00 PM »
I do not consider oil to be free energy (as I am sure it is free energy);
this is a contradiction...

but you do consider so, unless your oil comes from air:
from the context of the post you quoted it is clear that by the 'earth' i meant the earth battery or EER... which is obvious from this statement. "hey everyone, check out this earth battery/jt circuit combo. it's free energy!". you do know what context is don't you darlin'? ::) furthermore, i made it more than clear that oil is not free energy unless you own the well. for example if i light a lamp with solar, wind, hydro or earth BATTERY (happy now?) i am NOT paying anyone per unit for the wind, water, sun or "earth's" energy. however, when i use oil to light a lamp, unless i own the well the oil came from, i am paying someone else for each gallon/liter/whatever unit of measure... see the difference? probably not. what's your purpose little troll? are you just trolling or do you have a cogent argument? because you haven't presented one so far...

"those two", darlin'.
I may be vague but "posting random illogical statements"?!
well... you better read again your last posts...  ;D
i see, so your position is that you are a troll like the other two. we will add you to the list.
don't misquote me darlin'... i didn't say "posting random illogical statements" i said positing... now why don't you try and clarify exactly how it is that you consider oil to be free energy with a cogent argument, instead of avoiding the question and positing random illogical statements like your previous three posts.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2009, 09:12:02 PM by WilbyInebriated »

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #440 on: December 15, 2009, 11:13:18 PM »
“harump, harump …. oil is free energy, isn’t it?! bingo! how do I get some?”
Sorry for asking here; I just couldn’t locate the proper thread. lol
Oh Its easy Justs stick a pipe up your posterior . I see your full of it !

tinu

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #441 on: December 16, 2009, 12:10:01 AM »
Did you check my posterior? Like it? ;)

Oh, you two come in pairs? Same price?  ;D

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #442 on: December 16, 2009, 12:21:05 AM »
Did you check my posterior? Like it? ;)

Oh, you two come in pairs? Same price?  ;D
No, i saw it running out of your mouth and then i knew !

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #443 on: December 16, 2009, 12:25:03 AM »
Did you check my posterior? Like it? ;)

Oh, you two come in pairs? Same price?  ;D

i see you are still avoiding backing up your claim that "oil is free energy" with a cogent argument and instead are choosing to respond with a logical fallacy known as a red herring... how typical.

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #444 on: December 16, 2009, 12:34:57 AM »
So, another day with a lot of trash talk.

Bill took a try at explaining how the JT works but his comments were more based on his observations from his extensive work with them and some speculations.  Albert had a good rant.

I'll try one more time, see if you guys will respond.

1.  How does the JT work and how come you can keep on adding LEDs and they stay the same brightness?

2.  What's the real explanation for the energy in an earth battery - JT combo?

3.  What's missing in the taking the position that you are only interested in providing power for yourself?

I hope you guys will reply.  If in fact you don't know how the LEDs stay bright as you add more and more, do you want to understand how that process works?

MileHigh

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #445 on: December 16, 2009, 12:39:05 AM »
So, another day with a lot of trash talk.

Bill took a try at explaining how the JT works but his comments were more based on his observations from his extensive work with them and some speculations.  Albert had a good rant.

I'll try one more time, see if you guys will respond.

1.  How does the JT work and how come you can keep on adding LEDs and they stay the same brightness?

2.  What's the real explanation for the energy in an earth battery - JT combo?

3.  What's missing in the taking the position that you are only interested in providing power for yourself?

I hope you guys will reply.  If in fact you don't know how the LEDs stay bright as you add more and more, do you want to understand how that process works?

MileHigh

i think they are ignoring you... ::) and with good reason i might add.
since you want to remain so far off topic, tell your buddy poynty to get rid of the frontpage extensions on his new apache server, it will give him security issues with SMF, and i know how paranoid you believers are about your 'anonymity'...

MileHigh

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #446 on: December 16, 2009, 12:40:31 AM »
Message to Ist:

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i have been forced to scrap my huge rf amps .... : (

in doing so i get lots of odd parts... : )

also i discover there a few bucks of GOLD in them!  : ))  maybe 1/2 ounce in each

More like a few microns worth of gold coating on the connectors perhaps?  Chances are you have an unbelievably tiny amount of gold to harvest from your old equipment.  SOL!   lol

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #447 on: December 16, 2009, 12:43:37 AM »
this is a contradiction...
from the context of the post you quoted it is clear that by the 'earth' i meant the earth battery or EER... which is obvious from this statement. "hey everyone, check out this earth battery/jt circuit combo. it's free energy!". you do know what context is don't you darlin'? ::) furthermore, i made it more than clear that oil is not free energy unless you own the well. for example if i light a lamp with solar, wind, hydro or earth BATTERY (happy now?) i am NOT paying anyone per unit for the wind, water, sun or "earth's" energy. however, when i use oil to light a lamp, unless i own the well the oil came from, i am paying someone else for each gallon/liter/whatever unit of measure... see the difference? probably not. what's your purpose little troll? are you just trolling or do you have a cogent argument? because you haven't presented one so far...
i see, so your position is that you are a troll like the other two. we will add you to the list.
don't misquote me darlin'... i didn't say "posting random illogical statements" i said positing... now why don't you try and clarify exactly how it is that you consider oil to be free energy with a cogent argument, instead of avoiding the question and positing random illogical statements like your previous three posts.

Ok, for the sake of logic, assuming you are familiar with the term:

1. Considering is not equivalent with knowing. I “consider” that for sure. Huh?! Check a dictionary.

2. Oil is free energy like wind, solar and every other form of energy known to man into this universe. We do not know how to create energy but just how to mere transform (some of) it. A great leap was made by Einstein, yet transforming mass into energy and vice-versa is still a transform. Yup, nuclear energy is free energy too.

3. What is not free in respect to oil is the access to it. I see a difference between oil-energy and mere access to oil. Can you see a difference too? Hopefully you can. Hint: unit price can change but the energy contained in it remains pretty much the same.

4. The fact that I position myself as a troll in respect to you is for your benefit only. It doesn’t make me a troll except in your mind. Although I “do consider” your mind vast, hopefully you can see the line where it ends. Well, I’m beyond that line. ;)

5. I was posting here because I’ve got enough nonsense. “Earth battery” is a non-free crap. Or, if you prefer, it is exactly as free as any other battery one can make without ever making use of Earth. Just use the damn magnesium, carbon and some electrolyte (water and salt, or just piss in it – you may be surprised; I’ve also heard that troll piss is better but hey, don’t take my word for it). Such a battery, built in a bare glass/container, will be smaller, cleaner and it will function wherever placed, even in outer space, if properly designed. So where is your “Earth” involved into that battery? Don’t bother; it’s rhetorical.

6. Add me to your list freely. Is it black or gray? Lol! Never mind, make that list longer but cut the nonsense shorter. I’d be happy and probably others too.

It was a pleasure talking "logic" and "science" to you.

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #448 on: December 16, 2009, 12:46:02 AM »
Ok, for the sake of logic, assuming you are familiar with the term:

1. Considering is not equivalent with knowing. I “consider” that for sure. Huh?! Check a dictionary.
for the sake of logic? there was no logic in what you said...
you said this:
I do not consider oil to be free energy (as I am sure it is free energy);
as you are "sure it is free energy" by your own words then it is also true that you consider oil to be free energy...

3. What is not free in respect to oil is the access to it. I see a difference between oil-energy and mere access to oil. Can you see a difference too? Hopefully you can. Hint: unit price can change but the energy contained in it remains pretty much the same.
exactly my point, access to oil isn't free unless you own the well. thank you for your agreement to my argument. however, access to solar, wind and earth battery power is free... can you see the difference? probably not as i went over this once before.

4. The fact that I position myself as a troll in respect to you is for your benefit only. It doesn’t make me a troll except in your mind. Although I “do consider” your mind vast, hopefully you can see the line where it ends. Well, I’m beyond that line. ;)

5. I was posting here because I’ve got enough nonsense. “Earth battery” is a non-free crap. Or, if you prefer, it is exactly as free as any other battery one can make without ever making use of Earth. Just use the damn magnesium, carbon and some electrolyte (water and salt, or just piss in it – you may be surprised; I’ve also heard that troll piss is better but hey, don’t take my word for it). Such a battery, built in a bare glass/container, will be smaller, cleaner and it will function wherever placed, even in outer space, if properly designed. So where is your “Earth” involved into that battery? Don’t bother; it’s rhetorical.

6. Add me to your list freely. Is it black or gray? Lol! Never mind, make that list longer but cut the nonsense shorter. I’d be happy and probably others too.
more red herring irrelevance...

It was a pleasure talking "logic" and "science" to you.
what you said (mostly logical fallacy and contradiction) can be construed as many things, however science and logic are not among them.


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Re: Ultracaps tested for excess energy
« Reply #449 on: December 16, 2009, 12:55:19 AM »
I haven't had a chance to test the data logger software on a non-development PC. It might be awhile since I'm working on another project.

BTW, here's the links to my tests.

Joule Thief tested:
http://globalfreeenergy.info/2009/12/11/joule-thief-tested/

Ultracapacitor tested:
http://globalfreeenergy.info/2009/12/08/ultracapacitor-experiment/

Battery energy test:
http://globalfreeenergy.info/2009/12/10/battery-test/