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Author Topic: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !  (Read 101116 times)

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2008, 04:34:31 AM »
I mean't to say  250 microwatts not milliwatts and maybe its not possible to hook up 20 crystal sets in series.Sorry .I did get .04 volts from one crystal set.Free energy to me anyway.Triffid


its not really "free", what is being collected is energy broadcast by public radio towers,
if millions of crystal radio sets were to suddenly get wired up to collect this energy, the radio station would have to increase their tower output

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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2008, 04:34:31 AM »

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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2009, 05:53:36 PM »
I have mailed some questions to a guy who is the subject of this thread, using his e-mail addresses I found on his web-site. In return I received this:

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Dear Marek
 
 Thanks for see my web site of the Ionospheric system, yes , you are aright, there is not files for download, however here is a mirror in spanish with spanish available files you can download and translate, the english web site is under construction and all web sites must be updated and I do it when I have time
 
The spanish mirror is:
 
 http://energiaradiante.tk
 
 
  There is 2 options for you can get one of this devices, or the starting 5 KW version we build in the past, the first is you can get the plans, schemmes and building guide of this device for you can build this device for yourself in your country, in that case, we can do a cultural exchange for pieces and components I need for build or give more performance to others systems now days I am testing and building, in fact, I can send a listing with the pieces and components I need and you choice some item for send. The second  option is send to you a builded unit of the kilowatts you need, in that case I need to know in what country you are for know the sending costs
 
 There is too much variants in this devices type, for example some time ago we test using a yaggi antenna tuned to 7 MHz, we send pulses at that frequency and it travels around the Earth following multiple reflections between the Earth Surface and Ionosphere until the pulses returns rear the antenna, a complete cycle, that cycle timing is about 1/12 of second and then the antenna sends other pulse to 7 MHz adding more power to the previous pulse and then for each cycle power is increasing for this resonance method and the 7 MHz signal go down in power and amplitude and the 7,8 Hz component increases in amplitude and power and so with this method we get 12 KW in the first testings
 
 For understand how works this principles you can see this video show a similar case:
 
 http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=5540717206741162529&q=marcos+magnets
 
 You can see there, 3 permanent magnets and the maximal vibration is at 7,8 Hz and if the electromagnet send the variable frequency pulses can be in feedback with that mechannical vibrations the power output in the same will be too high
 
 I am placed in Argentina this days
 
 Thanks for you time and atention
 
 Bests regards to Chicago USA
 

Juan

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Regards,

Marek

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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2009, 06:55:24 PM »
It looks like this 7.8 hz vibration could be used to power an electric motor.You input the 7.8 hz current and get more power out than you put in. Just dreaming out loud here.Triffid

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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2009, 11:40:37 PM »

 There is too much variants in this devices type, for example some time ago we test using a yaggi antenna tuned to 7 MHz, we send pulses at that frequency and it travels around the Earth following multiple reflections between the Earth Surface and Ionosphere until the pulses returns rear the antenna, a complete cycle, that cycle timing is about 1/12 of second and then the antenna sends other pulse to 7 MHz adding more power to the previous pulse and then for each cycle power is increasing for this resonance method and the 7 MHz signal go down in power and amplitude and the 7,8 Hz component increases in amplitude and power and so with this method we get 12 KW in the first testings
 

Hi,

My understanding on wave propagation is that it depends on various conditions like Sun-spot numbers, on day or night time, seasons etc.  And it is very very uncertain and rare that on 7MHz (or on some other short-wave frequency) a dependable and stable multiple reflection can occur so that the transmitted signal comes back to the rear of the antenna that emitted the signal, going round the Earth by the reflections.  I do not say it is impossible but very rare.  Of course by using many kWs of transmitting power chances might be improved but then overall efficiency is in question.

So if you could ask Juan what actual test results he experienced with this method and how much gain he may have had?  It would also be interesting to learn what circuits he used around the 7.8Hz (first Schumann resonance) to extract useful energy?

Thanks,  Gyula

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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #49 on: January 30, 2009, 05:10:04 AM »
For a 7.8Hz LC circuit, you either need a really big capacitor, really big coil, or both.  It would not be easy.  I don't see how a radiation wave could travel around the globe and produce standing waves.  Even if you used the ground/ionosphere as a wave guide, and could somehow bounce the waves back and forth like a giant fiber-optic cable, your still losing energy from the source by radiating the waves.  A non-radiating ground wave would work so much better, and very little energy would be lost due to radiation - since there wouldn't be radiation. 

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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2009, 05:22:51 AM »
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I bought an electronics kit at a yardsale and put together a crystal set from it and got .04 volts output from the earphone wires.I figured that 20 crystal sets going into one battery (20 times 250ma=5 watts per hour)might keep a battery topped off,if you don't use it much.Triffid
@triffid,
Are your sets in series?  .04 V @ .25 A * 20?

That would equal .8 V * .25 A equals .2 W  (series voltage)                   Furthermore,
                        .04 V * 5 A  is also equal to .2 W  (parallel amperage)

Is the logic right here?

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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2009, 06:57:09 AM »
I have mailed some questions to a guy who is the subject of this thread, using his e-mail addresses I found on his web-site. In return I received this:

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Dear Marek
 
 Thanks for see my web site of the Ionospheric system, yes , you are aright, there is not files for download, however here is a mirror in spanish with spanish available files you can download and translate, the english web site is under construction and all web sites must be updated and I do it when I have time
 
The spanish mirror is:
 
 http://energiaradiante.tk
 
 
  There is 2 options for you can get one of this devices, or the starting 5 KW version we build in the past, the first is you can get the plans, schemmes and building guide of this device for you can build this device for yourself in your country, in that case, we can do a cultural exchange for pieces and components I need for build or give more performance to others systems now days I am testing and building, in fact, I can send a listing with the pieces and components I need and you choice some item for send. The second  option is send to you a builded unit of the kilowatts you need, in that case I need to know in what country you are for know the sending costs
 
 There is too much variants in this devices type, for example some time ago we test using a yaggi antenna tuned to 7 MHz, we send pulses at that frequency and it travels around the Earth following multiple reflections between the Earth Surface and Ionosphere until the pulses returns rear the antenna, a complete cycle, that cycle timing is about 1/12 of second and then the antenna sends other pulse to 7 MHz adding more power to the previous pulse and then for each cycle power is increasing for this resonance method and the 7 MHz signal go down in power and amplitude and the 7,8 Hz component increases in amplitude and power and so with this method we get 12 KW in the first testings
 
 For understand how works this principles you can see this video show a similar case:
 
 http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=5540717206741162529&q=marcos+magnets
 
 You can see there, 3 permanent magnets and the maximal vibration is at 7,8 Hz and if the electromagnet send the variable frequency pulses can be in feedback with that mechannical vibrations the power output in the same will be too high
 
 I am placed in Argentina this days
 
 Thanks for you time and atention
 
 Bests regards to Chicago USA
 

Juan

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Regards,

Marek

I can not wait for these plans so i can build and as far as i can see this uses the earths own rf frequency for converting the earths rf power into usable electric.

Sure there are man made rf broadcast frequencys in the 80-100mhz whatever but not as low as this.

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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2009, 06:57:09 AM »
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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #52 on: July 21, 2009, 11:05:42 PM »
For a 7.8Hz LC circuit, you either need a really big capacitor, really big coil, or both.  It would not be easy. 

Old message, but thought this might interest some of you....especially as the Russians have been on the Kapanadze/Tesla discussion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Td--HItuoI

Looks like someones been playing with some very big coils and capacitors.  This is no hoax. 

Offline triffid

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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2009, 06:24:00 PM »
test,need a link back to here.I still want to build a 5kw unit.But got stalled.I just recently learned how tap some Tesla energy(26 volts d.c. milliamp range) from the "tommey reed" video clips posted in another thread here.His experiments proves it exists(power from the atmosphere).Triffid

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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2009, 05:52:38 PM »
hansvonlieven said:
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G'day again,
I have copied a couple of images from the main file, they are below.
@all
The 2N3004 transistors are wired as a short with their bases together, along with both push-pull emitters?  The collectors are between the rails.

Does this work?  Even theoretically?  Is pese watching?  Tito?  Who has an opinion?  I've never seen transistors wired like that.

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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #55 on: September 03, 2009, 05:33:05 PM »
I don't think I can combine the outputs of 20 crystal sets together.The last time I tried to combine the outputs of two circuits I fried both of them.Two insect sonic repellers.Crystal sets may not fry however since the power is so low.triffid

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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #56 on: September 05, 2009, 06:19:41 PM »
Interesting thing to note a lot of people may be using schuman resonators giving you all of this free power at 7.83hz ....

http://altered-state.com/index2.htm?/emf/schumann.htm

This may explain why the effect shown here
 ( http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=5540717206741162529&q=marcos+magnets ) works as it does!

For your consideration only thanks!



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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2009, 05:39:09 AM »
If Marcos can get that reaction from the magnets why not run 7.8 hertz dc through a dc motor and see if it picks up extra energy from the earth's magnetic field?triffid

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« Reply #58 on: September 07, 2009, 05:42:28 AM »
I am always for the most simple method of doing something(keep it simple stupid)K.I.S.S.).
triffid

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Re: Ionospheric antenna get 5 KW free !
« Reply #59 on: September 07, 2009, 04:29:17 PM »
I don't think I can combine the outputs of 20 crystal sets together.The last time I tried to combine the outputs of two circuits I fried both of them.Two insect sonic repellers.Crystal sets may not fry however since the power is so low.triffid
More than one American patent from before about 1900 have several wires coming together at one point for a power tap off.  Your probably right that the 20 crystal sets won't fry a VOM.  But I think you might have wired the high voltage transformers wrong from the insect sonic repellers?

Also, TinselKoala has a point on another post(Reply #41, this thread):  .2 watts is what you'll get from 20 crystal sets in parallel.

--Lee

 

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