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Author Topic: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits  (Read 478842 times)

MrMag

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #480 on: December 13, 2009, 09:18:44 PM »
IST,

The video is nice but I'm afraid it is not showing harmonics. Harmonics would be shown as 2 separate waveforms horizontally across the CRT. If there were 3 harmonic frequencies, there would be 3 waveforms. If the waveforms were in sync, you would see an increase in amplitude of the waveform where they lined up.

Sorry. 
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innovation_station

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #481 on: December 14, 2009, 04:39:05 AM »
it looks like to me harmonics ...

i have seen MUCH OF THEASE

that video is not the best demo of it as it is not core tuned hardly at all

the point was to show how to use the colpase and devide it into a few feeds and amp it with a magnet .. i have done so as i add the magnet in the videos that follow you at the end see resonant magnet interaction and harmonic bands ... THE SAME HARMONIC BANDS SHOWEN ON MY FIRST VIDEO...

: )

ist!

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guruji

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #482 on: December 14, 2009, 01:46:43 PM »
Hi guys what happened to the heater circuit it was really interesting. If one ecomplish this I think it's much better than light.
Gadgetmall you managed to charge that Ucap fast?
Thanks
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MrMag

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #483 on: December 14, 2009, 02:23:20 PM »
Quote from: innovation_station on December 14, 2009, 04:39:05 AM
it looks like to me harmonics ...

i have seen MUCH OF THEASE

that video is not the best demo of it as it is not core tuned hardly at all

the point was to show how to use the colpase and devide it into a few feeds and amp it with a magnet .. i have done so as i add the magnet in the videos that follow you at the end see resonant magnet interaction and harmonic bands ... THE SAME HARMONIC BANDS SHOWEN ON MY FIRST VIDEO...

: )

ist!

It may look like harmonics to you but it is not. It is a single waveform. And yes, I am sure you have seen many of them. That is one of the advantages of a scope. You see the waveform not just the voltage or frequency. Scopes are used extensively in the service field. It is really hard to see what is going on without one.

Also if you look carefully at your scope when you add the magnet, you would notice that you are only offsetting or shifting the waveform. Not amplifying it. It shifts vertically.

I really think you need to read up a bit on scopes and waveforms. I'm not trying to be rude but, to people who know how to use a scope you do not look very good, and you are misleading the people who don't.
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innovation_station

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #484 on: December 14, 2009, 02:46:41 PM »
it is  related ...  those bands ... are CLEARLY BANDS....  OF SOMETHING ... WHAT ARE THEY ?

AS I TUNE OUT MY KICKS  to a large view those BANDS SPRED OUT ...

we will see ... 

i beleave them to be the same BANDS I TUNE IN TO WITH THE USE OF THE MAGNET 

i can be wrong ... im just 1 person with AN ANOLOG SCOPE and i dont see anyone  showing scope shots that prove this diffrently ..

none the less that little cridder works well so far ..

w 
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innovation_station

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #485 on: December 14, 2009, 04:18:43 PM »
i have made more videos of this COIL RAMPING UP ! 

and i took some pictures of the  rinngginngg  wave .. 

it continues to fill in ... over time .. as the battery drains .. it keeps its tune ..

thank you !

william!

SLOW RAMP UP VIDEO .. : )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX0ayWn7n3I
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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #486 on: December 14, 2009, 04:59:25 PM »
MY NEXT VIDEO IS RAMP UP TO RESONANCE

AND TUNED TO 27 HARMONICS VIA A MAGNET ...

AND NO DRIFT ...  LMFAO!!!!!!

W

MR.M ...  not to be rude .. but you can count them .... : )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcMcStBjwqw
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MrMag

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #487 on: December 14, 2009, 06:25:00 PM »
Quote from: innovation_station on December 14, 2009, 04:59:25 PM
MY NEXT VIDEO IS RAMP UP TO RESONANCE

AND TUNED TO 27 HARMONICS VIA A MAGNET ...

AND NO DRIFT ...  LMFAO!!!!!!

W

MR.M ...  not to be rude .. but you can count them .... : )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcMcStBjwqw

First off, thanx for the mention in your video :)

These ARE NOT harmonic frequencies. No offence but it is really hard to try to prove someone wrong when they don't understand what they are seeing.
I really don't know exactly where you are connecting the scope so it is hard to comment on what exactly the small wave is. Could be caused by capacitor, a secondary coil,.....
If I am wrong, can you tell me what frequencies these harmonics are? Not all 27 of them, just give me 10 of them.
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innovation_station

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #488 on: December 14, 2009, 06:45:03 PM »
Quote from: MrMag on December 14, 2009, 06:25:00 PM
First off, thanx for the mention in your video :)

These ARE NOT harmonic frequencies. No offence but it is really hard to try to prove someone wrong when they don't understand what they are seeing.
I really don't know exactly where you are connecting the scope so it is hard to comment on what exactly the small wave is. Could be caused by capacitor, a secondary coil,.....
If I am wrong, can you tell me what frequencies these harmonics are? Not all 27 of them, just give me 10 of them.

ok mr. m

watch ..  as i pulse my core ... haromonics add TO MY BIG KICKS...  THE LONGER IT RUNS  THE LARGER THEY BECOME!!  THE MORE AND MORE RIPPLES THAT ADD TILL IM GUESSING THERE IS NO PEEK BUT A SOLID HUGE KICK

none the less i have showen all you need to REPLICATE MY WORK AND DRAW YOUR OWN CONCULSIONS.. 

btw  there are 0 caps ....  it is scoped on the same secondary as i have been all along ...
not sure what to tell ya mr.m  .. 

lol

use some MOSFETS...  may be 4 of em at 12vdc or less feed ... lol  and mirror it ... 

silly humans!

w

magnetic freq!    sounds close to harmonic magnetic resonance additive +
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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #489 on: December 14, 2009, 06:52:21 PM »
I know I'm just a "silly human" but would you mind telling me at what frequencies those harmonics are?

I'm still cleaning up the shop but when I'm done I will do it so that maybe you will understand better.
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innovation_station

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #490 on: December 14, 2009, 07:42:01 PM »
mr m

my kicks have growen more now even .. im over 100   when i had 27 b4 ...

intresting ?

ist!

i may be wrong ... i have no formal training ... but i dont think so ...

here is a picture of how my kick has growen ...
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MrMag

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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #491 on: December 14, 2009, 08:27:24 PM »
Forget it. I'd be better off just pounding my head against the wall.

  ---  Mr.Mag walks away shaking his head ----
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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #492 on: December 14, 2009, 08:33:00 PM »
lol

well every time i stop the unit ... then start it agin with in a few secconds .. that wave i have showen gets another ripple added to it as it apears through my eyes ..

it seams to keep adding on to the last ...  unless i stop it for a long peroid of time ... and then it looks as it did when i started out .. 1 or 2 ripples .. and grows to hundreds ..

if i turn it on and let it run with out stopping it .. it apears to remain fixed ... if i intrupt it it keeps adding ..

if i get this on 1 coil from my second core i expect the same wave on all of them

like i said i could be wrong ... how am i suspoto know ...  all i know is this is what it does ...

w
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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #493 on: December 14, 2009, 10:43:43 PM »
Quote from: guruji on December 14, 2009, 01:46:43 PM
Hi guys what happened to the heater circuit it was really interesting. If one ecomplish this I think it's much better than light.
Gadgetmall you managed to charge that Ucap fast?
Thanks
You mean faster . Yes a little faster . A lot of experiments are going on right now . Several look promising like one gary is doing and Kooler . Mk1 just posted a current amplifier . Some one need to build it . I swear i have got my hands full until after the holidays . I am making a bunch of Jt lights to give away for Christmas and runn9ing Experiments and Doing the daddy thing and house cleaning ,cooking ,washing . Etc..  :) It Nice to sit here on the keyboard for a bit to Chill out Unless someone starts something like on the Uc thread . Those are Bastards ans they get on my nerves . Its funny how someone can get in your brain by just a computer screen  ;)  I bet there is a lot of people who have had heart attacks getting into Flame wars and Died right there on their keyboard . Hehehe . Trying to talk to them two(u know) is like trying to talk to a mules ass while he's taking a dump

Mrmag hows this :
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Re: Second Stage Joule Thief Circuits
« Reply #494 on: December 15, 2009, 01:06:05 AM »
Quote from: gadgetmall on December 14, 2009, 10:43:43 PM
You mean faster . Yes a little faster . A lot of experiments are going on right now . Several look promising like one gary is doing and Kooler . Mk1 just posted a current amplifier . Some one need to build it . I swear i have got my hands full until after the holidays . I am making a bunch of Jt lights to give away for Christmas and runn9ing Experiments and Doing the daddy thing and house cleaning ,cooking ,washing . Etc..  :) It Nice to sit here on the keyboard for a bit to Chill out Unless someone starts something like on the Uc thread . Those are Bastards ans they get on my nerves . Its funny how someone can get in your brain by just a computer screen  ;)  I bet there is a lot of people who have had heart attacks getting into Flame wars and Died right there on their keyboard . Hehehe . Trying to talk to them two(u know) is like trying to talk to a mules ass while he's taking a dump

Mrmag hows this :

PERFECT!!!!

Gadget, did you ever try charging up that cap with a fugi board?
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